posted February 07, 2015 10:28 PM            

Just watched this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFn8T7gKiYM

posted February 08, 2015 12:05 AM            

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Originally posted by whaaat:
I feel you so much on this. I don't have Saturn in the 12th, I have it in the 7th, but it squares literally all my personal planets except the moon (which is in Scorpio) and I've always had a sense of a debt to society.

I feel like I'm one of the few people who cares, and therefore I should do something about it because if I won't, nobody else will

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I feel like that, too. I mean, if I disagree with someone on a political issue, and can't get them to see my point, no matter how hard I try, it can put me in a black funk for days, because I feel like I am failing humanity.

posted February 08, 2015 12:49 AM            

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The Soul-centered meaning may indicate the need to take on the responsibility for redeeming some of the collective karma of humanity and the willpower to be able to accomplish this task.

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It is possible that people with Saturn in H12 are dealing with more than individual Karma, and in working through their own fear and negativity they are helping to transmute the Karma of Mankind. For such a task the rewards are commensurate but there may be years of doubt, darkness and depression before they are experienced.

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posted February 08, 2015 02:04 AM            

I know you read. I read that you read You should read about dream cultures. Central and South American, Indigenous around the wide world, and even south eastern European and of the Vikings

I like what she said about the suffering of others being absorbed by you. With the exception of feeling non-emotional pain and physical pain, I feel that too. I can relate to feeling absorbed pain, but it's emotional. Your job in the world is to be a servant to humanity. That's what she said. Do you relate to that, Faith?

I think it's a beautiful calling. A number of the things you need to do are the same as what I need to do as a 12H Sun, but maybe the experience that leads us to our purpose is slightly different.

She said to learn to control your dreams. I love this girl!

posted February 08, 2015 10:08 AM            

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Good idea-- to look at dream cultures. Especially since I never heard of them before.

Well, last night while I was sleeping, something happened. Not sure if it was a dream-- or what. But I got a sense of euphoric peace, if that makes any sense. As this was happening, my cat started going bonkers, she ran into my room meowing like it was an opera, jumped on me and rubbed her head against mine.

What the heck happened?

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Your job in the world is to be a servant to humanity. That's what she said. Do you relate to that, Faith?

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Completely. I've been saying for years, I need to work in hospice. Won't feel "right" about myself until I do.

posted February 08, 2015 10:11 AM            

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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
can you do some charity and teach me how to make hearts come out of my head?

I want to channel my inner Priscilla

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LOL, I just got the joke.

Yes this:

Looks like this:

posted February 08, 2015 05:51 PM            

I agree, she was more like, channeling. I'm so happy you saw it, too. Something to realize within ourselves....yes....you put your finger right on it. If I seem to be a more pronounced case, perhaps it's only because I've gotten further off track, so my efforts to reclaim lost ground are more dramatic.

I also have prophetic dreams.

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I did a psychic dreams thread years ago...rather than bumping it, maybe we could start a new one next week. IF you are still around.

posted February 08, 2015 06:03 PM            

I don't know if you feel this way Faith, but lately my misery comes from being disappointed in people. I'm becoming very disillusioned from the motives and behavior of others, my ability to trust them, what to expect from them, and just people in general. I just find myself often giving too much to others, and while I have no problem giving without receiving anything in return, it is the feeling my time and energy invested often is wasteful or pointless. I struggle now with wondering if I am way too generous at times or if the problem is having too high of expectations.

posted February 08, 2015 08:02 PM            

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I also get ticked off when I see anyone getting bullied or dealing with unnecessary hatred/prejudice, regardless of who they are or what they have done. Here's a good example... I was just viewing facebook and saw a meme someone had shared. The meme read "I don't know why we conduct tests on animals when we have prisons full of pedophiles". I know i'm in the minority when I say this but that is f*cked up. It baffles me that society thinks it's ok to play God and judge some people so harshly. My dad is in prison and when i've visited him he has bragged about how him and others heckle and harass men convicted of sex offenses. Needless to say I did not support that. In my thinking they are still people regardless of how sick and morally reprehensible their actions are/were and they don't deserve to be treated worse than anyone else. They are just imperfect humans dealing with some nasty demons.I think we all deal with our own demons and need to be more compassionate and understanding towards each other. If everyone tried to do that this world would be a better place.

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posted February 08, 2015 08:09 PM            

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Of all the causes you could have picked you choose to stand up for sex offenders? Sex offenders are UNIVERSALLY shunned and in my home country, if you were convicted of raping someone, you'd either kill yourself or be raped by the inmates. An eye for an eye. Seems fair to me.

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posted February 08, 2015 10:42 PM            

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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
I feel like this a lot, maybe Pisces energy has to do with it as well? I don't have Saturn in 12th, or really any 12th planets (Uranus on cusp).

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Pisces yes; plus you have Capricorn in your 12H.

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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
I don't know if you feel this way Faith, but lately my misery comes from being disappointed in people.

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I tend to look at it like, a lack of wholeness...lack of awareness. Some outright vacancies in people's spirits. I don't deal with as many people in real life as you do, however...it's easier to be philosophic when you have the luxury of detachment..

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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
I'm becoming very disillusioned from the motives and behavior of others, my ability to trust them, what to expect from them, and just people in general.

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To match, I find modern society outright crazy and exhausting.

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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
I struggle now with wondering if I am way too generous at times or if the problem is having too high of expectations.

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I think Pisces moons have a calling to give more than we take. We will always have pain from that, which we have to figure out what to do with. It's a real challenge.

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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
You already know how I feel about dreams. Maybe we could make a dream long somewhere.

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It's rare for me to have extraordinary dreams lately...I have no stories ready to go...but if you start one, I will follow. And if I have another big dream incident, I will post in Astral Realms and invite you to come see.

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posted February 09, 2015 04:07 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I also get ticked off when I see anyone getting bullied or dealing with unnecessary hatred/prejudice, regardless of who they are or what they have done. Here's a good example... I was just viewing facebook and saw a meme someone had shared. The meme read "I don't know why we conduct tests on animals when we have prisons full of pedophiles". I know i'm in the minority when I say this but that is f*cked up. It baffles me that society thinks it's ok to play God and judge some people so harshly. My dad is in prison and when i've visited him he has bragged about how him and others heckle and harass men convicted of sex offenses. Needless to say I did not support that. In my thinking they are still people regardless of how sick and morally reprehensible their actions are/were and they don't deserve to be treated worse than anyone else. They are just imperfect humans dealing with some nasty demons.I think we all deal with our own demons and need to be more compassionate and understanding towards each other. If everyone tried to do that this world would be a better place.

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posted February 09, 2015 04:13 AM            

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Namaste venus2tinkerbell

I agree, she was more like, channeling. I'm so happy you saw it, too. Something to realize within ourselves....yes....you put your finger right on it. If I seem to be a more pronounced case, perhaps it's only because I've gotten further off track, so my efforts to reclaim lost ground are more dramatic.

I also have prophetic dreams. In fact just today I saw a YouTube video tour of my great-grandfather's mansion, which is a sort of historic site...I've never seen it before. But as it turns out, I have been dreaming about it for years and years. Literally it was a homecoming, to see it. I cannot believe that this place I have haunted in my sleep all this time, is part of the house my grandmother grew up in.

Gotta make a pilgrimage-- the legend is, he still haunts the place. Maybe that's why I was so happy in my sleep last night? Because this is big news for me. I feel like, I know I am going to meet that ghost!

I did a psychic dreams thread years ago...rather than bumping it, maybe we could start a new one next week. IF you are still around.

Great talking with you

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Channeling is exactly the word! Really amazing to witness when it is authentic.

I made a vow, didn't I? Well I could stick with the vow and then hang out on Sunday. I think then you could bump the thread. I love old threads! I'd feel a lot less pressure than if we start our own. Talking about how sexy venus-uranus women or virgo men are is one thing- dreams...that's kind of serious to me- lol. I'd rather bump the thread on Sunday. In the meantime, I will spend my extra time doing research since I Shouldn't be on LL- lol.

posted February 09, 2015 11:39 AM            

Find somebody who feels the same way and have real life conversations with them, it helps when you can exchange these kind of feelings with someone face to face.

And try to keep a journal of your dreams, contemplate on them in the mornings, it's a kind of therapy.

I'm becoming more and more sensitive, it's ridiculous, I can't watch documentaries, dramas etc. with other people because their insensitivity really hurts me. And I feel everything so deep and strong...I feel guilty about me being privileged, spoiled, safe, living in peace, having enough food etc. I cry a lot for people that suffer and feel their pain. I try not to be too current with what's happening in the war zones all over the world because it exhausts me. I watched series Into the was the other day and I was literally shuddering when I thought of all the human evil.

I feel rage as well as sadness, but I know I've gotta direct it somewhere.. channel it out. Help somewhere, although the pain won't stop. You will always feel it and it's okay in a way... that's just something we 12th house Saturns must feel.