posted March 08, 2015 08:59 AM            

Obviously not the first topic on this subject, it's also one of these themes that never get old in my opinion.

Do you have a stellium in your chart, and how do you experience it?

Do you feel stelliums point to where a person should direct their energy, or the opposite - they naturally focus too much energy in 1 place, which the native should resolve through other (opposite?) Houses?

posted March 08, 2015 09:30 AM            

We often call our asc, sun, and moon our big three. With a stellium, I feel that it's at LEAST as influential and powerful as the others. For me personally, probably more so on a daily basis. Hard to say, I feel my moon in my head, and my Leo Sun is flaring. LOL

To me personally, I no doubt whatsoever feel that it's a big player and my energy needs focus there. Being the 12th, it's an energy that stands out, to me if no one else. When I was younger and tried to ignore it by focusing on my Leo/Gemini side, life was miserable.

It's just my opinion from my life and experience but to me it honestly seems like a very huge player in the big scheme of things. Part of our mission to balance it's energy and the rest of our chart, tying into our nodal axis.

posted March 10, 2015 02:01 AM            

I have a stellium in Cancer around the 12H cusp and in the 12H. This may be very subjective on my part, but my sense is this. To make the point using images from the Tarot, the Moon-Venus in Cancer in the 12H is represented by the Priestess. The line of least resistance has been to retreat from the world in favor of spiritual pursuits. I see the Leo ASC as the Empress in the Tarot. In other words, the priestess who prefers to remain behind the scenes needs to become the empress, who has the knowledge of the priestess but an added capacity for skillful engagement with the world. So, the Cancer stellium represents a pull toward the past, which I need to work against.

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My stellium is in Virgo, 12th house.
Mercury, Venus, mars.
Venus and Mars both conjunct mercury.

We often call our asc, sun, and moon our big three. With a stellium, I feel that it's at LEAST as influential and powerful as the others. For me personally, probably more so on a daily basis. Hard to say, I feel my moon in my head, and my Leo Sun is flaring. LOL

To me personally, I no doubt whatsoever feel that it's a big player and my energy needs focus there. Being the 12th, it's an energy that stands out, to me if no one else. When I was younger and tried to ignore it by focusing on my Leo/Gemini side, life was miserable.

It's just my opinion from my life and experience but to me it honestly seems like a very huge player in the big scheme of things. Part of our mission to balance it's energy and the rest of our chart, tying into our nodal axis.

Regardless of some of the details I've given and how relevant they may be, I still think it's an extremely critical part of our charts that needs focus. In my case, it wasn't going to be ignored. My stellium by sign and house are a big part of my life now, daily. I need it.

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posted March 10, 2015 05:01 AM            

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Originally posted by peony:
Hi SaturnFan

I have a stellium in Cancer around the 12H cusp and in the 12H. This may be very subjective on my part, but my sense is this. To make the point using images from the Tarot, the Moon-Venus in Cancer in the 12H is represented by the Priestess. The line of least resistance has been to retreat from the world in favor of spiritual pursuits. I see the Leo ASC as the Empress in the Tarot. In other words, the priestess who prefers to remain behind the scenes needs to become the empress, who has the knowledge of the priestess but an added capacity for skillful engagement with the world. So, the Cancer stellium represents a pull toward the past, which I need to work against.

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Hello peony! Always a pleasure to hear from you!

There's so much wisdom in what you've written - people rarely acknowledge such conflicting energies in their nature. To me as an outsider it seems almost balanced though - you have a constant pull in both directions, so you can have constant access to the past in order to manifest the knowledge and wisdom into guidance at any time. It's beautifully complicated

My stellium is in the 11H, and among other planets contains Uranus, which is also my chart ruler (I'm an Aquarius Asc). It also contains the Sun in Capricorn, while Cap's ruler Saturn conjuncts Uranus. So there is a lot of Aquarian energy for me to manifest - it all ties in together, but I'm still figuring out how exactly based on the rest of my chart. I can see there's profound balance in it all, but I sense it will take me years or even an entire lifetime before I fully figure it all out. It's a true adventure.

posted March 10, 2015 02:03 PM            

I'm very interested in your generation, the Saturn-Uranus-Neptune group. Uranus-Neptune has correlations with shifts in cultural vision, the founding of major religions, revolutionary art, new philosophies, and spiritual awakenings. As a group, you're here to change things by imbedding new ideas that bring radical changes in many areas: politics, economics, science, art and music, philosophy, and spirituality. I'm very excited to see what you all do in the coming years.

To give you a context of where we are and where we are headed collectively, we're in a state of flux on many fronts: intellectual, philosophic, spiritual, political, and economic. We're between an old order that is passing away and a new one, which is where I believe your group is playing a major role and one you are uniquely fitted to serve with your Saturn-Uranus-Neptune conjunction.

posted March 11, 2015 06:07 AM            

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SaturnFan, there's a lot that can be said just about Saturn-Uranus. I didn't mention this before but Saturn-Uranus is an innovator. For example, in the arts, you often see a person who starts out within a certain tradition, but then expands into new territory. Where is your Jupiter including the sign and does it aspect the stellium?

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This is brilliant. I both respect traditions and instinctually look for ways to 'innovate' them, so this rings so true!
My Jupiter is in 2H at 20°8' Aries. It widely squares Mercury (8°), and trines Saturn by 5° & widely Uranus (by 7°). What role do you think it plays?

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Originally posted by peony:
I'm very interested in your generation, the Saturn-Uranus-Neptune group. Uranus-Neptune has correlations with shifts in cultural vision, the founding of major religions, revolutionary art, new philosophies, and spiritual awakenings. As a group, you're here to change things by imbedding new ideas that bring radical changes in many areas: politics, economics, science, art and music, philosophy, and spirituality. I'm very excited to see what you all do in the coming years.

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Wow, this is incredibly encouraging. I could talk for hours about my visions of how our society is living to old paradigms, and what areas should we be changing. I'm happy to hear there's a group of us, because in my personal life I've only met resistance so far, and even built a lot of resentment towards close-minded people who blindly accept the comforts of the status-quo. I later realised that this was a necessary external blockage so I can figure things out internally first and form my own view. But I'd love for my destiny to introduce me to people who I can debate things with, rather than merely debate things my mind Recently I considered that perhaps my stellium was making me obsessive on this subject, but you put a completely different spin on it!

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Originally posted by peony:
To give you a context of where we are and where we are headed collectively, we're in a state of flux on many fronts: intellectual, philosophic, spiritual, political, and economic. We're between an old order that is passing away and a new one, which is where I believe your group is playing a major role and one you are uniquely fitted to serve with your Saturn-Uranus-Neptune conjunction.

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Thank you for this. It has given me a lot of confidence and optimism about the direction I've been moving my life into!

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Do you mind my asking if you do yoga or practice meditation? I'm asking because I think it's important to work on aligning with the higher Self.

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I don't mind at all! In fact, I only just started doing meditation in November, yoga in December, and self-hypnosis (with recordings) too. I find it amazing so far, but am just at the beginning stages. I can't wait to see how the effects will grow as I slowly master these disciplines!

posted March 11, 2015 07:02 PM            

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My Jupiter is in 2H at 20°8' Aries. It widely squares Mercury (8°), and trines Saturn by 5° & widely Uranus (by 7°). What role do you think it plays?

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First of all, it seems to me Jupiter in Aries being in your 2H is reiterating the same theme shown by your Capricorn stellium and the Saturn-Uranus-Neptune conjunction. That is, your pioneering vision needs to be imbedded and find expression in a very a concrete way. Could this involve an organization or business of some kind? Jupiter square Mercury: Do you see any conflict between having faith in your hunches/intuition vs. a more critical, practical, or rational thought process?

The Jupiter trines to Saturn-Uranus suggest to me that you will be successful in achieving your goals (Jupiter grants success to whatever it touches and Jupiter trine Uranus is one of the most fortunate aspects one can have). Although I'm not certain of this, I also think the trines suggest that the ego and the higher Self are working with each other rather than against and that an alignment between them will come easier for you. I suppose that's why the question came up about yoga and meditation. Perhaps you have been guided to take up these practices.

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[P.S. I just wanted to let you know that I'm half-way through the book you recommended in the 12H Venus thread ("Descent to the Goddess") and it is one of the most empowering things I've ever encountered. Thank you so much for it!

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I thought the book would resonate with you given your Moon and Venus in major aspect to Pluto. You probably recognize Ereshkigal as Pluto and Inanna as Venus.

I think the myth of Inanna would make a powerful movie if done right. Like revising Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet for a modern audience, which is what Tom Stoppard did in the movie "Shakespeare in Love" or Leonard Bernstein and "West Side Story."

posted March 12, 2015 02:17 AM            

It gives me a tremendous need to study and I love art and music. Three of the planets are in Libra, the other is late Virgo.

posted March 12, 2015 02:29 AM            

Saturn, conjunct moon and mercury.
Moon and Mercury square Jupiter, Moon on DSC
Venus in 6th opposite DSC, square pluto

posted March 12, 2015 03:04 AM            

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I have a stellium involving ascendant, Mercury, Jupiter, Uranus. Pluto, South Node, with the planets all conjunct the ascending degree from the darker side and not the light.

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That's an amazing line up. Do you mind my asking: So, your SN is in the 12H but conjunct the ASC? What's the orb?

posted March 12, 2015 06:26 AM            

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Originally posted by SaturnFan:
Hi everyone,

Obviously not the first topic on this subject, it's also one of these themes that never get old in my opinion.

Do you have a stellium in your chart, and how do you experience it?

Do you feel stelliums point to where a person should direct their energy, or the opposite - they naturally focus too much energy in 1 place, which the native should resolve through other (opposite?) Houses?

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Have you been reading Lynn's article? I would also like to add that Donna Cunningham's article is also extremely informative with regards to this subject.

Well I have Sun, Uranus,Neptune,Jupiter, South node(if that counts) in the 8th house.

Lynn says that as an 8th house stellium individual, I should be more in control of my finances as trusting partners to handle that aspect of life for me could really mess things up.

She also suggests that the 8th house is often plagued by worries and anxieties over things that the native has little control over. And perhaps a study in esoteric knowledge, life/death issues or finances etc, are good outlets?

Oh,I agree(thumbsup). I don't let another person make decisions for me (when it comes to finances). I prefer to handle my own budget and being more informed as to how to make my money work for me(2nd house issue).

She also mentions how the 8th house can lead to obsessive disorders if things are not well-handled? Preach my sister!!! Preach!!!

Now my 8th house stellium has a mix of Neptune in it because Neptune conjuncts both Jupiter and the Sun. So I tend to bring Neptune issues therein to interact with Pluto subjects.

This is true for me as even when I like delving into subjects that are deemed taboo,I always have this pervasive blind spot of not really seeing everything "as is". So I'll see it as how I want to see it.

I don't believe that people are deliberately deceptive. And that is where Pluto and I disagree.

But I do believe that people often react in a manner consistent with what they know to do/how far they have "evolved"/ the level of "connectivity" they have with all there is etc.

Most people do things in isolation. Things that suit them and them alone.So unaware and disengaged from "all there is" they can be, that they think that the actions they do to another will never come back to them.

posted March 12, 2015 10:44 AM            

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Originally posted by peony:
First of all, it seems to me Jupiter in Aries being in your 2H is reiterating the same theme shown by your Capricorn stellium and the Saturn-Uranus-Neptune conjunction. That is, your pioneering vision needs to be imbedded and find expression in a very a concrete way. Could this involve an organization or business of some kind? Jupiter square Mercury: Do you see any conflict between having faith in your hunches/intuition vs. a more critical, practical, or rational thought process?

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I'm mind blown by this sentence "Could this involve an organization or business of some kind?". I've been heavily involved on a volunteer basis with 1 organisation working with women in a country where their rights are oppressed, and am in parallel developing my own business in a separate area which I think I can contribute significantly to with my experience. You just cemented my conviction that I'm on the right track
"Do you see any conflict between having faith in your hunches/intuition vs. a more critical, practical, or rational thought process?" - Absolutely yes. I should integrate these energies rather than have them work against each other.

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Originally posted by peony:
I thought the book would resonate with you given your Moon and Venus in major aspect to Pluto. You probably recognize Ereshkigal as Pluto and Inanna as Venus.

I think the myth of Inanna would make a powerful movie if done right. Like revising Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet for a modern audience, which is what Tom Stoppard did in the movie "Shakespeare in Love" or Leonard Bernstein and "West Side Story."

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posted March 12, 2015 10:52 AM            

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Originally posted by Iced8Ace:
Stellium in 7th Pisces,

Saturn, conjunct moon and mercury.
Moon and Mercury square Jupiter, Moon on DSC
Venus in 6th opposite DSC, square pluto

Angular planets are strongest. I'm earnest when it comes to love, but I also have a very carefree, non committal attitude. Men are drawn to me but I don't know what I need. I can doubt them and write them off easily. No idea if it's because I'm serious or if I would rather avoid that. Men are too obsessive; actually, most people who become my friends are obsessive. I need a lot of space but I crave company also. Indecision bleeds me dry.

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Very interesting manifestation of a 7H stellium, I see a lot of Saturn's influence - people are attracted to you, you keep your distance, and while wanting company you also need your space. I have a great book on Saturn and how it manifests in our natal Houses and Signs, and the bid about the 7H says that the native should know themselves first before knowing another, and also they should not feel guilty of wanting to be alone. Looks like this kind of energy is prominent in your stellium.

posted March 12, 2015 11:09 AM            

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Originally posted by AscTaurus:
Have you been reading Lynn's article? I would also like to add that Donna Cunningham's article is also extremely informative with regards to this subject.

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I haven't read either - will look them up now, thank you for the recommendation!

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Well I have Sun, Uranus,Neptune,Jupiter, South node(if that counts) in the 8th house.

Lynn says that as an 8th house stellium individual, I should be more in control of my finances as trusting partners to handle that aspect of life for me could really mess things up.

She also suggests that the 8th house is often plagued by worries and anxieties over things that the native has little control over. And perhaps a study in esoteric knowledge, life/death issues or finances etc, are good outlets?

Oh,I agree(thumbsup). I don't let another person make decisions for me (when it comes to finances). I prefer to handle my own budget and being more informed as to how to make my money work for me(2nd house issue).

She also mentions how the 8th house can lead to obsessive disorders if things are not well-handled? Preach my sister!!! Preach!!!

Now my 8th house stellium has a mix of Neptune in it because Neptune conjuncts both Jupiter and the Sun. So I tend to bring Neptune issues therein to interact with Pluto subjects.

This is true for me as even when I like delving into subjects that are deemed taboo,I always have this pervasive blind spot of not really seeing everything "as is". So I'll see it as how I want to see it.

I don't believe that people are deliberately deceptive. And that is where Pluto and I disagree.

But I do believe that people often react in a manner consistent with what they know to do/how far they have "evolved"/ the level of "connectivity" they have with all there is etc.

Most people do things in isolation. Things that suit them and them alone.So unaware and disengaged from "all there is" they can be, that they think that the actions they do to another will never come back to them.

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Very interesting and insightful! You talk about the 8H characteristic of 'other people's money', but you also show incredible insight on patters and motivations in people's behaviour, which is also typical of the 8H energy (themes about meaningful interactions with others, deep examination of the soul etc.).

posted March 12, 2015 01:36 PM            

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Very interesting and insightful! You talk about the 8H characteristic of 'other people's money', but you also show incredible insight on patters and motivations in people's behaviour, which is also typical of the 8H energy (themes about meaningful interactions with others, deep examination of the soul etc.).

I also have Neptune conjunct the Sun and I completely resonate with your description of this aspect. For me it's been difficult to get a grip on it, Neptune is a very, very tricky and powerful planet - all others I can at least understand, but this one is just always escaping What works for me is when I direct its energy in some kind of creativity, however small - just the act of creating crystallises reality for me (if this makes sense ). Even if it is only scribbling, it immediately clears my head, but I try to do more substantial things, like writing for example. This is the only thing I've found which helps me deal with Neptune's influence. How are you dealing with it?

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I write too. I used to be a stage actor way back in high school. I miss that. But I reckon I will return to it later in life.

Neptune is very tricky,very confusing to delve into.Sometimes I will "know" things with absolute clarity.And I do my best to bring them forward so that others can gain clarity too.

One of the most difficult things to deal with however at times can be the fatigue. I really can't be "go,go,go" all the time and need periods of "downtime" and escape.

posted March 12, 2015 02:40 PM            

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I have a big ol 2nd house stellium and I'm not sure how it affects me other than I always seem to never have money but it always comes back into my life when I almost run out. But..money is a big freakin problem for me. And I feel lost, insecure, depressed if I don't have money. Money=freedom to me.

My 2nd house is Sagittarius and I have my Sun, Moon, Mercury, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune there.

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That troublesome Neptune in 2nd is part of the mix of your stellium. Are you lazy to save up, don't pay much attention to details with regards to budgeting or buy things that you really don't need i.e fail to prioritize on what you need vs. what you want?

My friend has Sun/Moon/Merc/Mars in 2nd and he has issues with money too. His problem is spending(Mars) and impulse buying. often with very little forethought. An almost "I like it and so I have got to have" etc.

His Moon/Mercury/Mars conjunct is in Pisces. so he often goes from feeling(Moon) to thinking(Mercury)to desiring(Mars)and acquiring a lot.

I think Mars,Jupiter,Uranus,Neptune can be tricky to deal with in the 2nd house- whether natally or by progression/transits.

Even Pluto in 2nd is no good sometimes.One can go through long periods of being a miser. Then suddenly breakout and spend like they are millionaires.

posted March 12, 2015 03:53 PM            

Honestly, I don't always feel very Aquarian. I don't feel Aquarian until I read about how much they don't like to be pinned to a traditional lifestyle, a traditional value system, don't want to be pigeon-holed by anybody, need an intellectual connection with their mate, are stubborn and fixed in their opinions, and how the women are natural suffragettes. lol. And then I have to admit, that all does sound like me. I do have that need to be liked/for approval which I thought was a more Venusian trait (I have sun conjunct Venus as well as the 7th house stellium) but I've seen two astrologers describe this as an Aquarian trait as well so maybe I am pretty typically Aquarian, even in that sense.

My 7th-house stellium manifests in a total feeling of being lost without romance and love in my life. I'm always thinking about relationships as well (that must be the Mercury in the 7th). Honestly, I cannot handle being single for any significant length of time. Like J.Lo I figure I'm old enough now and may as well just own it and who I am. It is what it is. I also like hanging out with friends as often as I can and preferably one-on-one although I don't mind group activities and have fun with those, too. I often think of myself as very Venusian but then when you put me next to a TRUE Venusian, like a Taurus woman, with their love of makeup and shopping, and I am the girl who rarely shops, is a minimalist and who let my earholes close up, I realize that maybe I am more Uranian after all. lol.

posted March 12, 2015 07:29 PM            

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That's an amazing line up. Do you mind my asking: So, your SN is in the 12H but conjunct the ASC? What's the orb?

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Thanks! South node is conjunct Pluto and in the twelfth, not conjunct any angles.

Mercury, Jupiter and Uranus all conjunct the ascendant. Pluto conjuncts Uranus but not the ascendant.

posted March 12, 2015 07:41 PM            

@SaturnFan

I'd say I doubt someone earns a 11th house stellium for nothing. And also an Aquarius ASC.
It's an indicator of having very good Karmas. Very well deserved

Also, your Saturn seems very well placed.
And have you checked the sabian symbol for your Sun, for any chance?

Sun in the 8th degree of Cap.
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" In a Sun-Lit house, domesticated birds sing joyously ".

The wholesome happiness which subservience to the ideals and patterns of a well-established culture brings to those who accept them unreservedly.
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posted March 12, 2015 08:44 PM            

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Before I respond, may I ask what everyone defines as a stellium? Is it 3 or 4 conjunct planets, or is it 3 or 4 planets in the one sign?

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I have several. One in my 12th which happens to start at the tail end of Virgo and ends right in the middle of Libra. I have a Libra stellium consisting of my Sun, Moon, Mercury and Asc. Then I have a 3rd house stellium of my Chiron, Uranus and Neptune starting at the end of Sag and ending in the middle of Cap.

My 12th is pretty apparent due to the planets I have there. My chart as a whole is pretty contradictory. I have lots of social signs and aspects yet introverted, shy aspects and signs mixed with some pretty intense ones. So I'm a little all over the place. I'm not shy yet pretty reserved. I don't like sharing deeper, personal things to people I don't quite know well. I'm secretive, a huge dreamer. I'm also very talkative, really hyper. I smile A LOT. Happy-go-lucky type, optimistic yet realistic. I'm not afraid of dealing with conflict or problem. I'm assertive. Very driven, one that strives for total control of my emotions, feelings. I don't like feeling vulnerable or weak nor do I want anyone worrying about me. I'd rather be the one that worries. (I feel like that sounds so selfish). I have many friends yet feel like a loner. I'm a perfectionist and don't like clutter yet my life is always all over the place.

I think my 3rd house stellium is also pretty evident in my demeanor. I'm fickle, can be antisocial at times. As I stated earlier very talkative LOL. Feel like 2 separate people at times so I'm mercurial. I'm a giant kid. I like to have fun! I'm really goofy. Don't like stressing or sweating over things out of my control. I love cartoons. I don't EVER wanna grow up! My mind jumps from this to that constantly so I forget A LOT! I'll be in mid-sentence and forget what I was gonna say lol.