posted March 11, 2015 03:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Janah:
charlie, aren't you a Virgo?

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posted March 11, 2015 05:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
This is what I was thinking

Sun in the 8th means what?

Interested in deep subjects. Holds things close to the vest. Is not a superficial person. May mature late. May have to deal with deep emotional and sexual issues, as part of his maturity

Moon in the 8th etc

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We don't hold things close to the vest. People just refuse to notice. We see in a world blinded by Honey Boo Boo and Bruce Jenner and What color is the dress...

posted March 12, 2015 06:39 AM            

I for instance have Jupiter/Neptune/Sun /Uranus in 8th. Neptune being the outer planet that touches my Sun is the one that I feel most resonates with me.

I experience the conjunction of Neptune to my Sun in more ways than i can count i.e the love of working in isolation, solace, easily confused, tendency to daydream, living more "in here" than "out there", love of all forms of escapism and fascination with other dimensions/worlds that are non-physical etc.

Someone with Saturn in the mix would learn some pretty tough lessons with regards to 8th house issues i.e contracting a sexually transmitted disease,losing someone very close or having to do without a support system(financially/emotionally) etc.

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posted March 12, 2015 10:15 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Any thoughts? I would like to write about them. I know the 8th House represses, delays, but then the person can come out better

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The idea of delays has to do with Capricorn. The 8th house as expressed in hidden and secret esoteric writings associates Capricorn and all that is previously established to the 8th house, so it makes sense you see it this way. I know many will disagree with this, but I'm not here to argue the house association just give a personal idea of how I see 8 house planets.

If you think in terms of establishment, habits, even the balancing of spiritual and physical experience you can get a better feel for 8th house planets. It is said that 8h represents others' resources and this comes from what has previously been established, through family and inheritance, or through laws/taxes/dogma, etc. or even past lives/ karma if you believe in that, or destiny. What has been established in our energy bodies is mostly hidden at the unconscious or unconscious levels which is why so many resonate with a Pluto association here.

So when I look at 8h planets I think in terms of taking or receiving others' resources (which can consist of cash, heirlooms, energy, emotions, etc). When a planet is masculine there is an innate urge to take. Or when it is feminine there is an innate urge to receive. There is a difference. I will think up a few examples if you are interested, but I think you can get the idea of what I'm trying to say. I think neutral planets are great here in the 8h because of this concept.

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posted March 12, 2015 07:19 PM            

The Sun is masculine also, so Sun in 8th would create an innate urge to "take" recognition from others by actively outshining others. If it is in a sign like Taurus, a receptive sign, for instance, which represents the builder, they would want to take others under their wing and build a following of some sort. It doesn't have to be a bad connotation. If it was in another masculine sign there may be more determination.

WHen you look at the receptive planets, like moon for instance, this person innately knows that things will flow their way and they innately are set up to receive. They have an antenna for honing in on spiritual gifts, connecting with others because of their reputation, etc, depending on the sign it is in.

Plus Venus, which is also feminine, receptive. It's a passive way of benefiting from gifts coming from legal agreements like marriage, or inheritance, or this person may have the ability to solicit funds for humanitarian causes if the sign is Aquarius.

posted March 12, 2015 07:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
PLEASE, chime in, PS. I am not the authority, just a humble student

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posted March 12, 2015 08:31 PM            

I was feeling sooo down today and your words lifted me up so much.

Thank you

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posted March 12, 2015 09:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Janah:
A lot of people with eighth house stelliums end up being the collectors of others' secrets! Eighth house energy gives someone great reading abilities, meaning they see through people (if their own anxieties and issues aren't impairing their judgements). I think I already brought up the power struggles in relationships, whether it be romantic or platonic. People with eighth house stelliums are great at research, but their will and opinions can be fixed depending on the planets/sign in the eighth. There's always something unique about the sexualities of eighth housers. There can be intense moods and swings, as well, especially if Moon, Sun, Mars, Venus and Mercury is in the eighth house.

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Great post, J. Thanks!

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posted March 12, 2015 10:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
I think the 8th house helps you to redefine who you are at the core of your very being by exposing you to the darkest depths of your personality. It forces you to confront your biggest fears, basically making you suffer a lot so you can see a brighter day after everything you had to go through. With this comes the rebirth of the self--a newer, fuller expression of the self. After all, we can never truly realize what we are capable of until we have to go through the most difficult challenges in life.

The 8th house basically alters everything you've built up to now. The things which you value (2nd house things) will be taken away from you so that you will learn to be without them and be detached from the physical things. This then prepares one to face the 9th house things.

The transformations that often occur within the 8th house teaches a person that there are things that are just out of their control and that they should just let go. He or she will learn to trust in the universe and restore his or her faith in things working out just fine in the end.

As for planets in the 8th house, I think it hides the energies of those planets from the public eye. They're parts of your personality that you keep to yourself. But I think this probably only apply to personal planets. Generational planets might, too, to an extent, but I see them working out differently for me. For generational planets, I think they represent what you fear the most. I have Uranus and Neptune in there. I don't necessarily fear Uranian things, but I do not like sudden changes for which I am not able to prepare for. I also do not like Neptunian things, aside from the fact that I am Virgo dominant. In Neptune's case, I actually fear being lied to, disillusioned, not seeing anyone's darker side clearly (which is a tendency for me) and getting taken advantage of.

I wonder what others think about this.

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posted March 13, 2015 02:49 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
This is what I was thinking

Sun in the 8th means what?

Interested in deep subjects. Holds things close to the vest. Is not a superficial person. May mature late. May have to deal with deep emotional and sexual issues, as part of his maturity

Moon in the 8th etc

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You just described me in a nutshell essentially with this. I have Moon in 8th House in Capricorn. Definitely have deep emotions, strong sense of empathy and pain intermingled. Mature late in some senses, get easily attached (Cancer Ascendant may contribute to that). Without meaning to, I hold things close to me in behavior, or have a space that can never be touched by another soul even though I want to connect. I often feel, forgive this for sounding wrong, but that people will not comprehend the depth of my feeling if I try and articulate it.

I don't reveal my emotions to anyone easily, and have a natural aversion to people who seem frivolous with their emotions. My intuition distrusts people who don't have an emotional sense of self....though I've learned to realize that everyone has a different disposition and be more open-minded as I've become older.

posted March 13, 2015 02:53 AM            

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Originally posted by PlutoSurvivor:
OK, here's an example using 8 H Mars.
Masculine planet, would be a taker. This person would have a strong will to get what they want and in the 8H will be determined to actively take what they feel they deserve. If it is in a sign like Capricorn, it very well may be taking from society in a legal way through government benefits, or they may battle the last will and testament of parents to take more then their fair share because they feel they were there for their parents while they were alive.

The Sun is masculine also, so Sun in 8th would create an innate urge to "take" recognition from others by actively outshining others. If it is in a sign like Taurus, a receptive sign, for instance, which represents the builder, they would want to take others under their wing and build a following of some sort. It doesn't have to be a bad connotation. If it was in another masculine sign there may be more determination.

WHen you look at the receptive planets, like moon for instance, this person innately knows that things will flow their way and they innately are set up to receive. They have an antenna for honing in on spiritual gifts, connecting with others because of their reputation, etc, depending on the sign it is in.

Plus Venus, which is also feminine, receptive. It's a passive way of benefiting from gifts coming from legal agreements like marriage, or inheritance, or this person may have the ability to solicit funds for humanitarian causes if the sign is Aquarius.

I pay attention to the masculine or feminine planet or sign to know if someone is a taker or receiver. Again, takers are not all bad, because they may have established a history of working hard, or have great organizational or executive ability. You have to look at the rest of the chart, but in general I associate the 8H with Capricorn/Saturn principles.

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posted March 13, 2015 07:38 PM            

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A strong 8H presence in the natal can make for someone prone to playing devil's advocate, too. They can see deeper than others into a variety of issues or subjects, and can seem to have a better understanding of various situations than their peers. Fairly cagey, they really don't care to remedy the short-comings of others, but when a debate arises, they will point out the things others missed or hadn't considered, especially from opposing or unpopular viewpoints.

They spend a lot of time considering the small nuances or inconsistencies they've noticed, which is why those with strong 8H energy make excellent detectives, but can garner a reputation as someone who is broody. Full of thought, and able to linger on unpopular subjects like sex and death, but that's just being thorough, not depressive. That's a common misconception.

I wouldn't say the 8H has anything to do with delays or repression. Quite opposite, actually. Natives with 8H prominent are more likely to explore the uncomfortable subjects than any of the other houses, especially regarding the planets placed there, and/or the 8R.

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posted March 13, 2015 10:31 PM            

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Originally posted by GypseeWind:
Hi Ami, I see what you're asking...

Venus in the 8th means love is as serious as breathing. It's a life long quest to find 'the one' and when we think we have we will protect it with all we have, and if it goes away we will feel like we're dying for a long, long, time. We may get over it, but we'll never stop loving that person. It works like scorpio venus so you have jealousy, obsession, stalker ish behavior. Venus in the 8th people are very sexual bc it's a natural expression of love to us. I don't want to speak for all venus 8ths, but in my case when someone I love has hurt me deeply there can be violence with anger. For ex when I caught my husband cheating I took an axe and busted out his windshield when he pulled into the driveway.
That was a little trip to crazy town I hope never to repeat. But I tell you, I almost felt possessed to do it.

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posted March 13, 2015 10:34 PM            

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Originally posted by GypseeWind:
Hi Ami, I see what you're asking...

Venus in the 8th means love is as serious as breathing. It's a life long quest to find 'the one' and when we think we have we will protect it with all we have, and if it goes away we will feel like we're dying for a long, long, time. We may get over it, but we'll never stop loving that person. It works like scorpio venus so you have jealousy, obsession, stalker ish behavior. Venus in the 8th people are very sexual bc it's a natural expression of love to us. I don't want to speak for all venus 8ths, but in my case when someone I love has hurt me deeply there can be violence with anger. For ex when I caught my husband cheating I took an axe and busted out his windshield when he pulled into the driveway.
That was a little trip to crazy town I hope never to repeat. But I tell you, I almost felt possessed to do it.

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posted March 14, 2015 12:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Janah:
A lot of people with eighth house stelliums end up being the collectors of others' secrets! Eighth house energy gives someone great reading abilities, meaning they see through people (if their own anxieties and issues aren't impairing their judgements). I think I already brought up the power struggles in relationships, whether it be romantic or platonic. People with eighth house stelliums are great at research, but their will and opinions can be fixed depending on the planets/sign in the eighth. There's always something unique about the sexualities of eighth housers. There can be intense moods and swings, as well, especially if Moon, Sun, Mars, Venus and Mercury is in the eighth house.

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