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Ami Anne
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posted April 12, 2015 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
Every day you wake up is an opportunity to be a better you and honor those who have influenced you positively.

Sometimes the better you has to turn the other cheek. Sometimes the better you has to go to war in defense of what is right and fair.


Exactly!

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Gabby
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posted April 12, 2015 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Weeeeell... I kind of just decided (impulse decision) that I will attempt to take a little break from LL.
That'll be about 25% of your problem solved immediately.

-I've done what I didn't want to.
-I feel a little ashamed of myself.


DF when have you ever been part of the problem? Your always a voice of reason.
It seems there are a few that like to pick on each other. If one posts something the other will jump on that thread and derail it. It's not you who does this at least I've never seen you do anything like that.
I don't get why these other ppl seem to follow each other, like they are waiting just to attack. It seems so senseless!

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aleenaxo
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posted April 12, 2015 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aleenaxo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
This, being written to me, is funny!!
I don't have any grudges against anyone. I don't get involved in the stuff at all...never have never will.

Nono I was referring to anyone on the forum! It's just an observation made from reading the 12th house forum sorry I didn't mean to offend you!

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LucieLemonade
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posted April 12, 2015 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Weeeeell... I kind of just decided (impulse decision) that I will attempt to take a little break from LL.
That'll be about 25% of your problem solved immediately.

-I've done what I didn't want to.
-I feel a little ashamed of myself.


no one has to go anywhere!!

Let's try to leave our disagreements in each thread and start fresh on the next thread!

What we are disagreeing on is the topic at hand anyway.

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Gabby
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posted April 12, 2015 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aleenaxo:
Nono I was referring to anyone on the forum! It's just an observation made from reading the 12th house forum sorry I didn't mean to offend you!

Oh, lol!! I was wondering because I can't stand reading or being involved, I'm not upset with the ppl I'm upset with the energy that's being sent out, it hurts to read it.

I know not everyone separates the words from the energy.
Most probably only THINK.
They see the words and don't really feel how those words are changing their energy.
They don't stop to feel how their heart is now racing and there is knot of stress in the pit of their stomach and that it wasn't before, they just know they don't like what they SEE.
They want it to stop...they think it's the words but it's not. Its the energy the words are putting out that hurts.
So not realizing it's the energy, they jump right in trying to defend one thing/person or another and end up putting out more angry words trying to make it better...but instead make it worse and spread it further.

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BellaFenice
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posted April 12, 2015 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
I apologize for the chaos that I was very much a part of. (Meaning that I apologize to those who wanted a good discussion. If the chaos could have taken place in its own space that'd have been better)
Some of the actual things that I said, I am not sorry for.

I apologize too, EmGem had a good thread going and should have stayed on topic. I also do not apologize for things I said, but rather the tone and word choice- those could have been handled better.

I don't think you should take a break, because I'm 25% responsible by default then, its better to apologize and move on. If you need too of course, but honestly these things ebb and flow so it will probably cool down now.

Nordicsoul, thanks for the thread! I think everyone could use a reminder in examining our behavior and if it is really conducive.

I think we should consider having a PM system or an LL-specific email so that way if conflict arises, we can take it there. I understand personal email is private, so why not have those who register on LL get a specific one for the site, such as UserName@lindaland.com or something? We can do our best to set a better example, but there should be an alternative place if tensions get too high.

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nordicsoul
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posted April 12, 2015 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
I apologize for the chaos that I was very much a part of. (Meaning that I apologize to those who wanted a good discussion. If the chaos could have taken place in its own space that'd have been better)
Some of the actual things that I said, I am not sorry for.

DF, thanks for apologizing to those who wanted a good discussion about 12H. I agree that certain conflicts needs to be solved.. probably finding the right space, and if possible to do it offline.

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posted April 12, 2015 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:

My suggestion is when you see a post going wrong don't get emotionally involved or take a side even if you agree with someone's point, just leave the thread and don't think about it any further.
When the issue has moved past it's original intention, walk away so you don't add any negativity.
If need be, send a email message to one of the moderators of that area and let them handle it.

!


Agree

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nordicsoul
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posted April 12, 2015 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Eirlys:

I'm an infrequent poster, but a long-time lurker.

This is a fabulous site.

It's a storehouse of information on Astrology that

I refer to (and that I refer others to) for endless

valuable tidbits.


Lovely post, nordicsoul, and I agree.

I often wonder how much unnecessary friction could be

avoided by simply staying on topic. lol


Thank you.



Thanks for the good vibes Eirlys
best
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nordicsoul
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posted April 12, 2015 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lalalinda:
Hello nordicsoul, I'm sorry you felt uncomfortable. In the future please know that if you can not get ahold of Randall you can email me at anytime for any reason.

For the most part nordicsoul, this is a smooth running forum.
Discord happens, but not often.



I will keep that in mind in the event this happens again. thanks LL

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posted April 12, 2015 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Weeeeell... I kind of just decided (impulse decision) that I will attempt to take a little break from LL.
That'll be about 25% of your problem solved immediately.

-I've done what I didn't want to.
-I feel a little ashamed of myself.


nothing is more beautiful than a humble soul... (smile)

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nordicsoul
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posted April 12, 2015 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
To the OP. This us so true. Thank you.

Thank you!!!

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nordicsoul
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posted April 12, 2015 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Eirlys:
Yeah, except for those pesky reptilians. o______O


....


I kid, I kid.

But now that I have your attention, could anyone

point me to the FAQ that gives the code to post

video (youtube, etc)?


I would be grateful! Thanks


do you have any gemini placement (mercury or moon) or sagitarious?

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nordicsoul
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posted April 12, 2015 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
We all screw up. I screw up ALLL the time. I have had to apologize many, many times.

That is how we learn.If you don't make mistakes, you never learn.

You stay stuck in the fear of making mistakes.

Everyone is forgiving here.

I hope you stay, DF. You have a lot to offer


is it just me, or apologizing just has a magic?

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posted April 12, 2015 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
Oh, lol!! I was wondering because I can't stand reading or being involved, I'm not upset with the ppl I'm upset with the energy that's being sent out, it hurts to read it.

I know not everyone separates the words from the energy.
Most probably only THINK.
They see the words and don't really feel how those words are changing their energy.
They don't stop to feel how their heart is now racing and there is knot of stress in the pit of their stomach and that it wasn't before, they just know they don't like what they SEE.
They want it to stop...they think it's the words but it's not. Its the energy the words are putting out that hurts.
So not realizing it's the energy, they jump right in trying to defend one thing/person or another and end up putting out more angry words trying to make it better...but instead make it worse and spread it further.


that is what I felt yesterday. I realized I was feeling the energy and was engaging in it. When one gets sucked into that atmosphere everybody lose...

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posted April 12, 2015 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BellaFenice:

I think we should consider having a PM system or an LL-specific email so that way if conflict arises, we can take it there. I understand personal email is private, so why not have those who register on LL get a specific one for the site, such as UserName@lindaland.com or something? We can do our best to set a better example, but there should be an alternative place if tensions get too high.

if that is possible, that would solve lots of conflict without third persons being even aware. it would also help when someone wants to just derail the conversation with specific details that are not specific to the thread...

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Gabby
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posted April 12, 2015 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
that is what I felt yesterday. I realized I was feeling the energy and was engaging in it. When one gets sucked into that atmosphere everybody lose...

It's natural, at least you had the maturity to step back and see it!! That's wisdom and growth on your part, good job!

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posted April 12, 2015 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peony     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DF, FWIW, you've seen and taken responsibility for your part. It's good to feel remorse, but not shame, that makes you feel bad about yourself. I hope you know the difference. It took me a long time to learn this. Today's a new day!

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Virgo28
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posted April 12, 2015 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is not to like about pseudo gurus, intellectuals, and hypocrites.

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posted April 12, 2015 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Virgo28:
What is not to like about pseudo gurus, intellectuals, and hypocrites.



Unnecessary comment virgo28!! We are trying to bring the energy up not down!

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posted April 12, 2015 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peony     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
that is what I felt yesterday. I realized I was feeling the energy and was engaging in it. When one gets sucked into that atmosphere everybody lose...

It's uncomfortable and hard for me to stay present in the midst of intense negative and destructive communication, even if it's not directed at me. I completely agree with your post for the well being of the forum and everyone who participates or seeks help.

And yet, personally, I learned that there's another option besides avoiding these situations altogether or getting caught up in the energy. I found that by focusing on what may have been behind the negative emotions, rather than what was being said, instead of feeling uncomfortable, I felt I got a sense of what one person may have been feeling. That's never happened before. Usually, I'm too uncomfortable to do anything constructive.

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posted April 12, 2015 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aleenaxo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
Oh, lol!! I was wondering because I can't stand reading or being involved, I'm not upset with the ppl I'm upset with the energy that's being sent out, it hurts to read it.

I know not everyone separates the words from the energy.
Most probably only THINK.
They see the words and don't really feel how those words are changing their energy.
They don't stop to feel how their heart is now racing and there is knot of stress in the pit of their stomach and that it wasn't before, they just know they don't like what they SEE.
They want it to stop...they think it's the words but it's not. Its the energy the words are putting out that hurts.
So not realizing it's the energy, they jump right in trying to defend one thing/person or another and end up putting out more angry words trying to make it better...but instead make it worse and spread it further.


Exactly! There needs to be more acknowledgement toward the idea that even though you think that what you're saying (not you just to everyone in general!) isn't offensive what matters is HOW THE OTHER PERSON RESPONDS TO IT. If they are offended, then that's a problem. Some people don't get why it should be seen that way so I can use a very extreme example. The KKK frequently use the N word, and we all know how offensive that is, but their excuse is that they use it as a "descriptive word". Their point of view (apparently) is that it's not offended when the recieving group find it offensive. That is NOT okay. It's about getting past the ego.

Another thing is who can get their point across by sticking to the topic and staying mature. I had a physics teacher once put me down for being into astrology. I let him speak his opinion and kept my cool. He later came up to me to apologize and my response was "that's okay you're entitled to your opinion". Now, I also have many immature moments so I'm not perfect, I just want to give examples that might help

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posted April 12, 2015 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let me prentend that I'm sorry.

"If the gloves don't fit you must acquit"
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posted April 12, 2015 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Virgo28:
Let me prentend that I'm sorry.

"If the gloves don't fit you must acquit"


F*ck off childish dip$hit.
I looked you up.
- you come across desperate for female attention.
- give up the emoticons that 15 year olds use.

Yeah... ban me. Whatever.

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Gabby
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posted April 12, 2015 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Virgo28:
Let me prentend that I'm sorry.

"If the gloves don't fit you must acquit"


Virgo28, why?
Don't you have enough self respect to NOT make yourself look like a childish punk?
Everyone is asking for a kinder forum, if you can't say anything nice, save yourself the work and don't type anything at all!

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