posted June 03, 2015 11:11 PM              

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Originally posted by Odette:
Things end. It's a part of life.

Do you find 'death' mean?

I don't think it's mean to cut contact, mainly if things are clearly over and there is nothing left. To me that's like trying to bring something -dead- back to life... or trying to make the world spin backwards. I am talking about all relationships, not just romantic ones.

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Thank you.

posted June 04, 2015 12:27 AM            

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Originally posted by NeptunianSag:
I have a tendancy to 'Ice' people out of my life If i think they are going to be toxic or a problem, I completely ignore all their communications and if they still dont get the message im not interested I usually delete them by contact ect.

It's strange because I heard this is a scorpio thing to do, but I dont have many scorpio/harsh pluto aspects. I think i'm putting it down to Venus conjunct saturn because I hate problems in relationships and feel I have to set boundaries.

I have a progressed scorp asc + pluto in the 1st though. Also venus-pluto square progressed.

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I have, absolutely.

They're often surprised, but no one can say they

weren't warned.

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Fixed signs.

posted June 04, 2015 02:11 AM            

I had to 'ice' my relatives. It wound up being VERY mutual and irrevocably set into motion. Isn't it just 'unbelievable' the way that people of your Heart, who are supposed to be-there for you thick-n-thin, the tribe you go to when you're vulnerable low and in need of rallying support just treat you time and time again like a used douche? I had to learn to STOP being their doormat, get a sense of self-respect and self-interest, and make my 'own' life. What a splintering shattering loss happened at the pre-mature death of my PGF..... Hope that was 'the last' go-around with them. So much super-pain there for the whole tribe, including a shocking heart-wrenching suicide I'd heard about talking on the phone around a year ago now. It was my final defining try to be in touch with dna-relatives. It was a 'closed door' I rapped on. Got the message. Hope this all culminated in the dissipations of final karmas (for me)... The Ultimate Ice.

Beginning-again time for me, especially as-of this last birthday more than a few days ago. Sun is still in orb, but leaving.

I look Forward, not backwards. Frayed ends getting cut back. New starts, new beginnings.

posted June 04, 2015 02:36 AM            

Forgive me, but what does LOA mean?

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posted June 04, 2015 02:58 AM            

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what does LOA mean?

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posted June 04, 2015 03:02 AM            

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LOA
ˈləʊə/
noun
a god in the voodoo cult of Haiti.

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posted June 04, 2015 03:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Eirlys:
Mirage29

Forgive me, but what does LOA mean?

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And happy belated

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posted June 04, 2015 03:26 AM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:
^ Actually... I'd like to recant the part about LOA the most horrid folk around. My life HAS changed. I have some Quality acquaintances here, at LL. People who have really accepted me in an unconditional type of way. And to these, I say thank you for being part of my life.

I think I read once, that people with Gemini on their Descendant, with a Mercury-SN in Gemini, tend to be super-friendly and bond easily with others, and want their friends 'forever'... This is true of me. Even if I would want to put a lot of space between myself and someone who hurt me, they door of 'communications' would always be open. .... Learning to 'protect' that JupiterCancer Heart, letting people have to 'earn' their way back into my trust and respect a little more than I have. And I know that I AM making good progress. Things take Time.

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posted June 04, 2015 07:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
And Leave of Absence

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Lead on Arrival.

Wait...

posted June 04, 2015 07:14 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
Law of Attraction?

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posted June 04, 2015 02:20 PM            

Law of Attract, as Teasel had suggested.
sorry!

Yeah, Leave of Absence?... Hey, I would really welcome that right now in my life!!

I'd love to go on some kind of renewal retreat involving nature and things that replenish the soul and allows me to talk and hang with a bunch of cool people who love to discuss the things pertaining to God and the nature of the universe! Need to be with some really 'real' people. Get reacquainted with Life again.

I haven't had any kind of pleasurable vacation since early 2001!! That one was actually designed for me to try-out the local 'energies' in two geographic locations.

Came sooo close to moving to the Dallas-FW area (because of church ministries involvement). I decided to chose here, where I found a smaller (versus 'mega' type) more-intimate spiritual-family.

I had been in Michigan at the time. My nightmare divorce was over. Used the very small settlement as seed to start over again. Sold my older [well-maintained] (Mercury-Marquis Brougham) car for $5.00 to a young man who had started a consulting business, which edged on the verge of some real success for him~~ The car suited that classy exec type success-image he needed. (He had a few local relatives who knew about cars, so they could fix a couple little nuisance kinks it had for really low sum of money if they were providing the labor.)

Once I got here, settled into an apartment, the shocking events of usa 9-11 hit. Then came Hurricane Katrina, and a string of back to back hurricanes here that limited the economic resources available.... Include with that my own catastrophic financial event when I lost 2/3rds of my income in the 'parallel-suddenly' time. (This loss was 'through no fault of my own,' as they say~~ but God ). I had come here to establish myself in a community where I could serve and worship, plant down some earthly roots, find a nice job, begin to build my life towards establishing good retirement (because it wasn't yet too late).

Instead!, it was like a biblical Job-experience that 'wiped me out' here, and undermined every any Hope of seeing success for my life. A success that would come 'by my own hand and willpower'... Was not to be.

(tPluto in Sag then, through my H12, over the Asc, then all through my H1. It recently kissed my 2nd House, and now Retrogrades for the last time at the end of my H1).

Disasters come. It's a part of life, and we must deal with these sometimes exquisitely painful subjective-type experiences, and learn to muster and live in as much inner love and right-attitude that we can possibly generate.

...So, sheesh-yeah, I'm tired in a way. Could really benefit from that rest--- Take inventory of what happened, tie up loose ends, and try to plan ahead but stay flexible. (tSaturn in my 12th, tNeptune in my 3rd, tUranus in my 4th; tPluto finishing up H1, to make residence in H2)

I'm seriously considering a shredding of all my journals, notebooks, papers, writings and artwork~~ and just walk with a liminal clean-slate type of non-existence. But will wait for counsel on that. These would be a potential source of income for me down the road, but How can we Really Plan for an unknown future that is not in our real control at all...

Okay, tired-tears, but grateful and still possessing somewhere a cheerful-like spirit in spite of these things. It's "all" Good. All things work together in the most amazing ways. Restorations.

posted June 04, 2015 09:23 PM              

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Thank you.

Not to mention while I understand that it hurts to be on the receiving end initially, it'd serve you better to remind yourself you're a great person and count all the people who DO like you and want to be there for you. Unless you're (in general) getting iced out all the time....

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I find it more tactful to be the one getting iced, That way later on, no one can say I didn't call.
Sadly, in general everyone wants to be your friend when your on top. Finding out who your real friends are is very important.
I am old and used but not used up,but that is no reason to rush to that point. The least
forgivable are always the least forgiving.
Like loaning someone 50 dollars and feeling blessed if you never see them again, be greatful..
I don't like to ice anyone, I prefer to give them lots of room to grow. I that means they grow further away, I am the wiser, not hurt.

posted June 04, 2015 09:34 PM              

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Originally posted by Seimei:
I find it more tactful to be the one getting iced, That way later on, no one can say I didn't call.
Sadly, in general everyone wants to be your friend when your on top. Finding out who your real friends are is very important.
I am old and used but not used up,but that is no reason to rush to that point. The least
forgivable are always the least forgiving.
Like loaning someone 50 dollars and feeling blessed if you never see them again, cheap riddance..
I don't like to ice anyone, I prefer to give them lots of room to grow. If that means they grow further away, I am the wiser, not hurt.
I really have little time for bs in my life.Earlier in life it was more of an issue.
Now just have the vibe.

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posted June 05, 2015 12:50 PM            

Used to be forgiving and pretty wide open with people who were in my life (Pisces South Node) (Aquarius Sun) ....BUT, I've realized that being friendly and open was not contributing to any positive growth for me, so I've shut the door, and said PEAS AND CARROTS, SAYANARA, BUH-BYE!

This could be my other side of Aqua Sun (if you take advantage and not appreciate, I will turn cold as ice on yo a**) lool, Leo Rising, Venus Capricorn.

posted June 06, 2015 06:37 AM              

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Originally posted by Seimei:
I find it more tactful to be the one getting iced, That way later on, no one can say I didn't call.
Sadly, in general everyone wants to be your friend when your on top. Finding out who your real friends are is very important.
I am old and used but not used up,but that is no reason to rush to that point. The least
forgivable are always the least forgiving.
Like loaning someone 50 dollars and feeling blessed if you never see them again, be greatful..
I don't like to ice anyone, I prefer to give them lots of room to grow. I that means they grow further away, I am the wiser, not hurt.

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