posted June 18, 2015 05:25 PM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
Virgo, yes.

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posted June 18, 2015 05:47 PM            

It is an apparent catch-all, partly because it only vaguely suggests past lives, or at least another plane of purely consciousness perception that cannot be defined in material or practical terms. As the final house of endings, it implies all possibilities, and a coming full circle back to that elusive previous spot of origin.

It is a collection of tools for going beyond health maintenance, good habits, hygeine, etc -- and beyond oneself in service to others. Hypnosis, mental health facilities, rehab centers, hospitals, clinics, doctor's offices, charitable foundations, government services. It may be important for me to serve others in some such capacity to maintain a positive place of personal well being.

Artists and creators draw on what may be contacted in the murky planes of consciousness that aren't always the tidy boundaries of one's own sub-/super-conscious. Not that there are tidy boundaries there.

The 12th house implies 'past' because of the nature of the rotation of planets through this slice of the sky from the eastern horizon sunrise position up to 30 degrees or so (on average) in a westerly direction. Planets here have just passed the horizon, going from invisibility in the night sector of the chart, into (public) view. This implies reconciliation of self with the collective.

Creative inspiration, service, dealing with karma both within oneself psychologically and through kindness and good works -- these are all themes of the 12th house. This is the most impossible house to reduce to any explanation in words. It is by nature widely inclusive because it depends most upon the native's own, possibly long, illustrious, mixed, or disastrous past for its reference point in consciousness.

posted June 18, 2015 06:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
So elaborate.

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posted June 18, 2015 07:25 PM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
Mercury, Venus, mars and that's all you get!

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posted June 18, 2015 10:54 PM            

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Originally posted by alyssa27:
i have a cancer venus in 12th conjunct pholus and pallas..my venus has many aspects squares moon(in mutual reception),opposite uranus and neptune,sextile mars,trine pluto and square mc/ic..i dream a lot,everyone dreams but i remember 2 or 3 of my dreams every day..it's like a whole different world for me..the only problem is that sometimes i misinterpret my dreams,i guess that comes from the oppositions with uranus/neptune..i often have dejavu and i have a special connection with time in general..

i also have chiron in 12th and jupiter but jupiter conjuncts my asc by 2 degrees..

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posted June 19, 2015 07:03 PM            

If we understand the legends as metaphors, Persephone was broken from her illusions by the king of the Unconsciousness. Her mourning fast has often been compared to depression, and I think that when she noticed how the other spirits caught there were similar to her, she sacrificed herself to the Underworld to help them.

While we're speaking of it, anyone else experience depression at some point?

posted June 20, 2015 05:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Sailor Gemini:
Is it at all possible the Nodes rule 6H and 12H together? South in 12H and North in 6H? It makes sense in that 12H always holds bits of someone's subconscious and 6H shows your service in *this* Life, just as the Nodes do, but I think the Nodes are more like markers.

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posted June 20, 2015 05:23 PM            

Why too late? Is it because of your age or because of your current circumstances (are you working in a completely different field?)

I've been attracted to psychology and psychiatry for a long time and also wanted to work as a therapist or a researcher in that field. However I'm not really the healthiest person around mentally speaking, and also wonder if I could really deal with such things on a daily basis.

Sailor,