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angel4845 Knowflake Posts: 2995 From: USA Registered: Oct 2014	posted July 07, 2015 07:34 PM What are some indicators of suicide in the natal? ------------------ Sun Capricorn, Moon Aries, Libra Rising IP: Logged
Soltze Knowflake Posts: 1208 From: Registered: Mar 2015	posted July 08, 2015 10:54 AM 8th house lord in the 1st or vice-versa. There must be others off course. IP: Logged
Gabby Moderator Posts: 8902 From: Registered: Sep 2012	posted July 08, 2015 11:15 AM My taurus 8th house lord is also my libra 1st house lord, Venus. Venus is in my 1st conjunct Pluto/AC Pluto/Venus are opposed my Jupiter Venus is opposed Chiron I find myself thinking about suicide at times, even though I don't want to...it's always there. I've written poetry about the feelings and suicide itself. I don't think I could ever actually go through with it. It's sad to me the my mind goes there at all. If I didn't have children that love me and need me, I'm not sure if I'd still be here. IP: Logged
Eirlys Knowflake Posts: 516 From: Atlantic Coast Registered: May 2013	posted July 08, 2015 11:23 AM I've heard Saturn near the ASC... I couldn't tell you why, though. It was something someone pointed out in a natal chart analysis. ------------------ Nothing that you have not given away will ever be really yours. -- cs lewis IP: Logged
CupOfDavid Knowflake Posts: 385 From: Canada Registered: Jun 2013	posted July 09, 2015 01:31 AM I took a bunch of pills when transiting Pluto was exactly conjunct my natal Saturn. I didn't die, of course, but I may have if I hadn't stopped myself. IP: Logged
angel4845 Knowflake Posts: 2995 From: USA Registered: Oct 2014	posted July 09, 2015 10:08 AM quote: Originally posted by CupOfDavid: I took a bunch of pills when transiting Pluto was exactly conjunct my natal Saturn. I didn't die, of course, but I may have if I hadn't stopped myself. What house does your saturn fall in? Does saturn make any aspect to your chart? ------------------ Sun Capricorn, Moon Aries, Libra Rising IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 80103 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009	posted July 09, 2015 12:50 PM Wrong Forum. Moving to Astrology. IP: Logged
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 3194 From: MBTI - INTJ -- Enneagram - 5w6 Registered: Jun 2015	posted July 09, 2015 01:13 PM 12th house Perhaps certain squares to moon Uranus hard aspect to asc? (Kurt Cobain had conjunct, yes?) Of course I would never always include these people or exclude anyone that doesn't have these (and I'm sure there are other indicators). IP: Logged
midnightvenus Knowflake Posts: 603 From: outerspace Registered: Sep 2014	posted July 09, 2015 01:18 PM quote: Originally posted by DopGang: Uranus hard aspect to asc? (Kurt Cobain had conjunct, yes?) I remember Kurt had SUN conjunct RIP, MOON conjunct ORCUSr (lessons through death or something?), and CHIRON conjunct GRAVES. I'm not sure if it actually means anything, but thought it was worth mentioning. IP: Logged
CupOfDavid Knowflake Posts: 385 From: Canada Registered: Jun 2013	posted July 09, 2015 02:04 PM quote: Originally posted by angel4845: What house does your saturn fall in? Does saturn make any aspect to your chart? Saturn's in the first house. My chart's in my signature, if you want to take a look at it. ------------------ Chart IP: Logged
Meatballzzzzzz Knowflake Posts: 266 From: Earth Registered: Jun 2015	posted July 09, 2015 04:21 PM When I tried to take my life, I had Transit Saturn Conjunct Natal Pluto and Transit Pluto conjunct Natal Sun (ruler of the 12th) very tightly. Transit Chiron conjunct Vertex square Natal NN. IP: Logged
SoaringLeaves Knowflake Posts: 384 From: Pluto's heart Registered: Jun 2015	posted July 09, 2015 05:12 PM quote: Originally posted by CupOfDavid: Saturn's in the first house. My chart's in my signature, if you want to take a look at it. Not to pry, but was it by chance for love? You have Jupiter conjunct Algol in H5, which I'm guessing would make you do crazy things for love, while being wildly optimistic. Then if things don't go as planned... I can see how this could turn badly. I hope you're in a better place now! IP: Logged
Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 2451 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011	posted July 09, 2015 05:17 PM edt IP: Logged
Faith Knowflake Posts: 21731 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011	posted July 09, 2015 05:21 PM Oh what a sad thread.... IP: Logged
Faith Knowflake Posts: 21731 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011	posted July 09, 2015 05:25 PM quote: Originally posted by Eirlys: I've heard Saturn near the ASC... I couldn't tell you why, though. It was something someone pointed out in a natal chart analysis. I have Saturn widely conjunct the ASC if my chart rectification is correct, and I have never seriously thought of committing suicide. My son has Saturn-ASC and is very grounded and stoical. Can't see him ever being suicidal. I'm a Cap sun and he's a Cap moon, and maybe that's a factor. But still, I would think that Saturn-ASC prolongs (Saturn) a person's physical presentation to the world (ASC.) IP: Logged
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 3194 From: MBTI - INTJ -- Enneagram - 5w6 Registered: Jun 2015	posted July 09, 2015 06:09 PM quote: Originally posted by Faith: Oh what a sad thread.... Very Pisces Moon of you. (Not at all a bad thing - just noticing) IP: Logged
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 3194 From: MBTI - INTJ -- Enneagram - 5w6 Registered: Jun 2015	posted July 09, 2015 06:15 PM I've made four (that I remember) attempts. One or two not so serious but did require hospitalization anyway due to physical medical needs from the attempts. I very very much contribute it to 12th house - no question. - Feeling different - Feeling Alone - Feeling stuck - Feeling tired - Feeling angry Thankfully, it's all behind me, though it can cross my mind. I usually squash any of that thinking very quickly. Usually I just want to run away if anything but all in all it's rare nowdays. IP: Logged
ScorpieScorp Knowflake Posts: 866 From: USA Registered: Aug 2013	posted July 09, 2015 07:08 PM I've also heard Pluto/Moon aspects are prone to it... IP: Logged
CupOfDavid Knowflake Posts: 385 From: Canada Registered: Jun 2013	posted July 09, 2015 08:57 PM quote: Originally posted by SoaringLeaves: Not to pry, but was it by chance for love? You have Jupiter conjunct Algol in H5, which I'm guessing would make you do crazy things for love, while being wildly optimistic. Then if things don't go as planned... I can see how this could turn badly. No, I've never been in a relationship or in love; it was out of sheer desperation. quote: Originally posted by SoaringLeaves: I hope you're in a better place now! Thank you! I don't think I'll ever kick the depression, but I try to treat myself better. Interestingly, tMoon and tSaturn were closely conjunct each other and opposite my natal Mars that day. Therefore, based on my experience, I often attribute suicide or strong suicidal tendencies to a combination of the Moon, Saturn, and Pluto. IP: Logged
Meatballzzzzzz Knowflake Posts: 266 From: Earth Registered: Jun 2015	posted July 10, 2015 12:29 AM quote: Originally posted by ScorpieScorp: I've also heard Pluto/Moon aspects are prone to it... I totally believe that. I natally have Moon trine Pluto and as I said above I did attempt. IP: Logged
ReachingForTheStars Knowflake Posts: 465 From: second star to the right, and straight on till morning Registered: Dec 2013	posted July 10, 2015 12:32 AM ^^^ nooooooo, my son has a tight moon/Pluto conjunction. He's going through puberty. I worry about him. IP: Logged
EmGem Knowflake Posts: 1851 From: Registered: Jan 2015	posted July 10, 2015 01:19 AM my ex husband has suicide run in his family. His father, his grandfather and his cousin killed themselves. He himself has thought about it. He has saturn conjunct his ASC. This was conjunct my moon, mars AND saturn. So it was a double whammy saturn influence and our relationship often felt very heavy IP: Logged
CupOfDavid Knowflake Posts: 385 From: Canada Registered: Jun 2013	posted July 10, 2015 01:54 AM @ReadingForTheStars: With a loving mother like you, I'm sure your son will be just fine. IP: Logged
ReachingForTheStars Knowflake Posts: 465 From: second star to the right, and straight on till morning Registered: Dec 2013	posted July 10, 2015 02:20 AM Aw CupofDavid you are too kind. I see how deeply he feels though. Since he was young, his emotions were turbulent, and I just foresee all kinds of distress. He is easily overwhelmed and brought to tears. I don't know how to help him fortify this part of himself, or perhaps, he just needs to let the currents flow. This isn't an easy aspect for a male. I see him trying to control his emotions and be a man about it, but this isn't healthy. Thanks for your reply; it made me think! IP: Logged
bananaz Knowflake Posts: 757 From: Orlando, FL USA Registered: Feb 2015	posted July 10, 2015 02:31 AM Personally, I believe intense transits are more indicative of suicide when coupled with an inwardly emotional native For me, this transit was the one and only time I tried: Moon Opp T Neptune Moon Opp T Sun Sun Opp T Saturn T Neptune & T Sun were tightly conjunct in my 12th house I'm so not proud of that time in my life but I can see that the energies of the planets were not supporting me, which for some odd reason helps me understand it better IP: Logged

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