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DopGang
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posted July 30, 2015 06:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by HoodBlaze:
Sagittarius woman. Crazy relationship lol.

Same here, but there was no heartbreak! Only relief!

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posted July 30, 2015 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
Two Pisces Moon men Both drove me insane to the point of feeling physically sick.

The first one also had a Pisces Sun. He lost his mind and entire personality in drugs and alcohol. I couldn't communicate with him anymore. He had a complete personality flip. After years of knowing him, I felt like the person I knew (or thought I knew) died.
He had been through abuse and had a strange relationship with his father. I don't think this is an excuse, but it does explain why he was so broken.

The second one has an Aquarius Sun (Taurus AC). Interestingly he also had a negative relationship with his father. I don't want to go into the details of this, because it's too upsetting. But he sadly has a very serious mental illness. He has such a big heart and the whole thing is incredibly sad, but I'm not God... so I can only accept it and pray that he finds peace and happiness eventually.


I can hear the sadness in your post Odette, and I am sorry.

My partner has the same placements as your second guy (but with Cancer rising). I think it is a very tough combo for the native to balance.

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posted July 30, 2015 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MineAgain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is sad about some Pisces men is that they cannot deal with certain issues in a healthy manner. They have to heavily indulge in something whether it'd be alcohol, drugs, sex, religion, gambling, work ...

Unlike Aquarius, Scorpios or Leos who tend to have a huge blow up, get angry and move on, Pisces keep it all inside and prefer to hurt themselves instead of dealing with the harsh reality.

My dad is a perfect example of this extreme reactive behavior. When they start going down the wrong path, it's a never ending downwards spiral. No one can help them, they can only help themselves. It's sad to watch sometimes.

Pisces women tend to have thicker skin I think. I've noticed their anger, sadness doesn't lead them to act in an self-destructive manner.

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posted July 30, 2015 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Julz87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sagittarius! and he also has Uranus conjunct his Sun so there's his dose of Aquarianism way too inconsistent..-__-

Though I thought I would be ok with it, having Venus sextile Uranus but nope.

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posted July 30, 2015 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorpio and Pisces. My two parents, although we did manage to make peace.

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posted July 30, 2015 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
^^ I think the problem was mental illness, not the moon sign.

Not all Pisces moons are crazy.

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I can sign this. My current boyfriend is a pisces moon guy, and he is pretty normal... we have been together for 2 years and so far no heartbreak. I cannot ever guarantee it wont happen some day, but he is the most wonderful guy I've met so far

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posted July 30, 2015 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starmoon:
6, yes 6 venus in aqua men. i only attract aqua venus and it ends up horribly each time. they absolutely cannot give me the security i ultimately want and when i push for more (like 3 years in), they want out. although i attract the aquas non-stop they aren't what i need/want and it ends up badly each time. i completely swore them off about a year ago, and then 3 weeks ago i get asked out by a ... aqua venus. it's horrid.

Maybe you should take this pattern seriously, and analyse your need for security. Maybe you get attracted to the "freedom"-loving aqua venus for a reason, and maybe you actually do fit best with this venus sign? I mean, you must know from day 1 that they are who they are.... so maybe if you stop crave for security you will find that Aqua venus people can actually be very loyal and long-therm, once you give them their space to be different

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:

I am heavily fixed too and mutables I think are the worst match for us. The absolute worst. We like stable, they are flaky, how can it work? For example, Aqua men are most likely to divorce Gemini women.

I understand where youre coming from. I respect the fixed signs, and i get them on a level taht is even more subliminal than intuition. Things are amaaazing when you are on the same page but if you arent, thats when things gets bad. Fights between fixed sign people never end. Grudges are held forever, pain never let go of. Yes mutables are flaky and stability gives us cozy feelings inside, but I think a huge lesson for us fixed folk is that we need to learn to be more flexible and let go every now and then. Mutables can be like a breath of fresh air. And sometimes we are so stubborn we NEED someone that will mold to us, and not expect us to change to suit their needs.

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posted July 31, 2015 03:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
Reading the thread... I find it interesting that many mentioned transpersonal Sun sign or Moon sign men.
Sometimes I think - "normal" relationships (on a social standard or -model- of normality) are just not possible for these guys. Because they see the world in a very different way. Their perspective is very different to that of personal and social signs.

Hm yeah. Sometimes it seems like these men get coupled because it's a social norm but they would be perfectly happy... or happier... alone to pursue the things in they imagine, believe in or are passionate about.

Aqua like the idea of stability and try to find it in a relationship.. not knowing relationships or the least stablity you can find sometimes. Pisces like the idea of love and think it can be an escape from the harsh world, but love often causes more pain than anything else. Then of course they escape from love...

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Originally posted by Janah:
Pisces Sun male: My father. From a very young age he's been sort of self absorbed, neglectful, cocky and preachy. Actually, since I was born, according to my lovely Pisces grandmother. Thankfully, I took this heartbreak with a grain of salt, and Pisceans can no longer run their master thespian game on me.

This makes me sad. I remember this one time a pisces told me that the birth of his son prevented him from pursuing his dreams. Of course he said it for me to feel sorry for him but I felt so bad for his son. I mean **** , all the kid did was get born into this world and he already has baggage from his father on him... THAT was one of the most selfish and heartless things ive heard someone say. And not to be mean but knowig that hes a pisces... I knew even if he didnt have a kid hed never pursue his dreams anyway, he would just sit dreaming about them forever x.x

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posted July 31, 2015 03:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MineAgain:
What is sad about some Pisces men is that they cannot deal with certain issues in a healthy manner. They have to heavily indulge in something whether it'd be alcohol, drugs, sex, religion, gambling, work ...

Unlike Aquarius, Scorpios or Leos who tend to have a huge blow up, get angry and move on, Pisces keep it all inside and prefer to hurt themselves instead of dealing with the harsh reality.

My dad is a perfect example of this extreme reactive behavior. When they start going down the wrong path, it's a never ending downwards spiral. No one can help them, they can only help themselves. It's sad to watch sometimes.

Pisces women tend to have thicker skin I think. I've noticed their anger, sadness doesn't lead them to act in an self-destructive manner.


They can if they want to or if they hit rock bottom... but most prefer to live in a beautiful lie than face the truth and get better. Ive actually had a pisces tell me "why couldnt you just lie to me?!" I dont think they hold pain in on purpose... They really think that they can ignore something and make it go away. But of course that never works, one day it will all come to the surface and cause more damage.

The ocean analogy to pisces is perfect. You can throw any garbage into the ocean to get rid of it now. You wont see it. Its seemingly gone. Sometimes you never see it again, sometimes it washes up on shore all stinky and gross and you have to look at it. Sometimes the garbage kills life in the ocean, something beautiful and unique, or it just slowly poisons it.

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posted July 31, 2015 07:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 31, 2015 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for infinite.nebula     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
The ocean analogy to pisces is perfect. You can throw any garbage into the ocean to get rid of it now. You wont see it. Its seemingly gone. Sometimes you never see it again, sometimes it washes up on shore all stinky and gross and you have to look at it. Sometimes the garbage kills life in the ocean, something beautiful and unique, or it just slowly poisons it.

I love that!
Great discription for Pisces in any placement.

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posted July 31, 2015 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MineAgain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have to agree on the fact that certain Pisces believe that ignoring a problem makes it go away. My dad lives by this behavior.

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posted July 31, 2015 12:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MineAgain:
What is sad about some Pisces men is that they cannot deal with certain issues in a healthy manner. They have to heavily indulge in something whether it'd be alcohol, drugs, sex, religion, gambling, work ...

Unlike Aquarius, Scorpios or Leos who tend to have a huge blow up, get angry and move on, Pisces keep it all inside and prefer to hurt themselves instead of dealing with the harsh reality.

My dad is a perfect example of this extreme reactive behavior. When they start going down the wrong path, it's a never ending downwards spiral. No one can help them, they can only help themselves. It's sad to watch sometimes.

Pisces women tend to have thicker skin I think. I've noticed their anger, sadness doesn't lead them to act in an self-destructive manner.



Very interesting. My roommate is a Pisces and he is a gentle soul but he has struggled with depression in the past and smokes weed every single day. I wouldn't call that a healthy way of coping with internal issues either...

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posted July 31, 2015 12:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I understand where youre coming from. I respect the fixed signs, and i get them on a level taht is even more subliminal than intuition. Things are amaaazing when you are on the same page but if you arent, thats when things gets bad. Fights between fixed sign people never end. Grudges are held forever, pain never let go of. Yes mutables are flaky and stability gives us cozy feelings inside, but I think a huge lesson for us fixed folk is that we need to learn to be more flexible and let go every now and then. Mutables can be like a breath of fresh air. And sometimes we are so stubborn we NEED someone that will mold to us, and not expect us to change to suit their needs.


Hmmmm. I can see the logic on a theoretical level, I do. But I dated nothing but mutable signs from the age of 18 to the age of 26 (well OK there was one Libra in there... I dumped the poor guy, I guess he wasn't mutable enough for me). I honestly think the dynamic works better as friends. In a love relationship, particular if it's the woman that's fixed and not the man, it causes a lot of problems. I honestly think mutable men are drawn to the stability and the sense of knowing who we are, but ultimately find us too much of a "drag" on their go-with-the-flow tendencies always wanting to plan ahead, and too emasculating. I think the dynamic works better when the genders are reversed.

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Originally posted by Faith:
^^ I think the problem was mental illness, not the moon sign.

Not all Pisces moons are crazy.

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LMAO!!

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Originally posted by starmoon:
6, yes 6 venus in aqua men. i only attract aqua venus and it ends up horribly each time. they absolutely cannot give me the security i ultimately want and when i push for more (like 3 years in), they want out. although i attract the aquas non-stop they aren't what i need/want and it ends up badly each time. i completely swore them off about a year ago, and then 3 weeks ago i get asked out by a ... aqua venus. it's horrid.

Damn. That is some serious magnetism.

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posted July 31, 2015 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for runtzy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Taurus! With Aquarius mars. I add the mars because that played a big role (I feel) in the sequence of events.

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posted July 31, 2015 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aquarius...like Sun, Mercury and Venus in Aqua. And guess what? A capricorn Mars dancing on my Sat/Nep conjunction! And...we had Mars opp Mars :-(
If I knew about sinastry then...uhuh
I can visualize the person's face and it still p**ses me off!

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posted July 31, 2015 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sagical     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The biggest heartbreak was with an Aquarian. It could have been my Venus square his Neptune. I hit rock bottom then. It was a rough wake up call.

Strangely enough, my spouse was born three days after the heart breaker. The difference, planets wise, is moon sign.

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Wow aquas are heartbreakers.. I think I know why thAt is because Aqua prefers to love universally instead of one person I read in a book. They are humanitarians unlike the love of Leo who wants to love one person Aqua wants to save the world.

I find this a beautiful quality and yet heartbreaking because one could not truely poses and aqua

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posted August 01, 2015 03:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Aqua prefers to love universally instead of one person

For the Aquarians I know (not just my ex).. this isn't really a preference. It's more like a fact of life or even a responsibility.
Sometimes they really obsessively want a relationship - and it just doesn't work out.

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posted August 01, 2015 03:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
I can hear the sadness in your post Odette, and I am sorry.

Thank you Voix

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posted August 01, 2015 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am an Aquarius Sun.

I don't think the 'romantic' love pushed by society resonates with us.

If you give us a flower, we will probably think it was more beautiful in the ground.

I'm not sure it is the humanitarianism that is the problem, as much as it is the keen sense that one must not lose themselves, or it is no longer a "relationship".

You need the two individuals for the relationship to be a relationship. I personally love the idea of merging, as long as I still find myself afterwards, hopefully wiser, and find the 3rd entity (relationship) strengthened.

What I am trying to say is that, most guys I have been with wanted everything to mix and become one. I wanted to mix and create a 3rd - the relationship, as a living breathing entity in its own right, with he and I feeding it with our individual selves through our love for each other.

I have only ever managed this with another aquarian. And we are still at it.

I think we need a sense of creation,. of inventing something new as a result of our mixing energies with another. To do all that, to take all the risks with your independence, and manage emotional demands, there has to be something magical and tangible from the effort. Dinner at 7 isn't enough of a reason. Togetherness isn't enough of a reason. I rarely get lonely, there is so much to do and analyse, and the world is so interesting.
So, a relationship has to offer something that I cannot achieve alone, a sense of purpose, and as before, creation.

I don't know if any of that made sense, thought it might help coming from an Aquarius Sun with an Aquarius Sun partner.

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