posted July 29, 2015 12:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Say whatever you like...

But you gave the impression that you were accusing ALL Aquarius-influenced people of lacking empathy.

And apparently, when that same insult was applied to you-- "You, MineAgain, lack empathy"-- you got very upset.

So if you want to be careful not to upset other people the way you have been upset here, then yes, do use qualifiers like "some," to minimize the upsets.

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There is a slight difference between a zodiac sign and an actual human being, unless you do identify with your sign on a daily basis even during your random encounters with strangers.

A zodiac sign is not a human being. It is a sign which until proven otherwise is just something immaterial and metaphysical. It does not define who you are on a personal basis. It is not the essence of your being.

Throwing insults at an actual human being is another story. These are two different levels.

posted July 29, 2015 12:25 PM              

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Originally posted by MineAgain:
There is a slight difference between a zodiac sign and an actual human being, unless you do identify with your sign on a daily basis even during your random encounters with strangers.

A zodiac sign is not a human being. It is a sign which until proven otherwise is just something immaterial and metaphysical. It does not define who you are on a personal basis. It is not the essence of your being.

Throwing insults at an actual human being is another story. These are two different levels.

There is a slight difference between saying: "Scorpios are mean spirited" and saying: "Faith is meant spirited". The impact is different. In one sentence I am talking about a metaphysical concept in another I'm talking about an actual person.

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"Aquarius influenced people are not empathetic in any way."

posted July 29, 2015 12:31 PM              

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Originally posted by MineAgain:
I think you need to manage your anger, dear.
Telling someone you do not know in any way that they are not "emotionally stable" is not very respectful either. Are you a licensed doctor?

You're asking me to act "less rude" but you are being absolutely offensive. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. At least, I didn't call Aquarius people "unstable" or "mentally challenged" which would be just as offensive as "emotionally unstable".

Furthermore, when other posters said: "No more air sign because XYZ", how is their post not "generalizing" either?

You could have just pointed out that my post was wrong and biased without turning it into a personal matter which by the way is more insulting than anything else. You turned my post into a personal matter from the get go.

If one of us is emotionally "unstable", it's most definitely you. Why? Because you can notice that none of my post is a personal attack to YOU or anyone else on this forum, whereas your post is filled with "insults" and judgments regarding someone's emotional state.

I talked about a ZODIAC sign and you turned it into a personal attack against a HUMAN BEING. You do realize you sound ridiculous right?

Making biased assumptions about a zodiac sign does not give you the right to personally insult someone you do not know. You're getting angry because of a zodiac sign. This is slightly stupid.

I never got mad when others called Scorpios all sorts of names. You probably need to grow a thin skin or learn how to shift your anger into more constructive debates without turning them into personal insults over a [b]ZODIAC sign. This is trivial. [/B]

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I really don't need to get into why someone calling others the b-word repeatedly on a thread should be the last person lecturing others on not using personal insults.

posted July 29, 2015 12:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
"Aquarius influenced people are not empathetic in any way."

Those were your words. Yes, we are familiar with the difference between a metaphysical concept, and a person. It's people you were insulting. Again, your refusal to concede that shows a complete failure of empathy. On YOUR part.

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You missed my point, completely.

I rectified what I said by saying "some". Go back to the previous page.

You didn't read it because you were too caught up in your feelings and too busy insulting me, I guess.

posted July 29, 2015 12:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
Like you weren't even officially dating the guy you're just mad he didn't want to be your boyfriend. At least the other women here were actually DATING those men.

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This part was not necessary. You had it coming, I'm sorry. I wouldn't have called you a ***** if you hadn't said what I quoted above.

It was a personal attack which had nothing to do with the actual debate regarding my Aquarius comment. You could have easily explained your position without stating the above mentioned irrelevant comment.

You dared to say such comment and I just reacted to what you said.

You were being mean purposely and you know it. I did not comment on your personal story and you crossed the line when you discarded mine.

You're perfectly allowed to tell someone they hurt your feelings by saying such and such, but it does not give you an excuse to dismiss someone's experience as irrelevant because they didn't date the person for a certain amount of time. Experiences do not require any numerical skills.

Using personal matters to conduct an argument is low and immature, just like calling someone names. I called you names as a result of your unreasonable argument.

You are the bitter one, not me. I am harsh, rigid and jaded, but at least, I do not discard people's experiences to build a lousy argument in a trivial debate. This is low.

As I said, you need to control your anger just like I may need to be a bit less harsh in my wording. This is a forum, not a real life conversation.

We're all a work in progress here. This doesn't justify personal attacks.

This thread will hopefully be closed by a moderator as it's been derailed completely from its initial purpose which was to share painful experiences and not have a debate on the flaws of each zodiac sign.

posted July 29, 2015 01:12 PM              

BUT I don't hate them.

I have an Aquarius venus so I have Aqua traits plus an Aqua DSC. I would say I have a lot of empathy and am quite emotional

posted July 29, 2015 01:13 PM            

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Originally posted by goddessofthemoon:
Like I posted before, an Aquarius has caused my biggest heartbreak

BUT I don't hate them.

I have an Aquarius venus so I have Aqua traits plus an Aqua DSC. I would say I have a lot of empathy and am quite emotional

I am a softie, though not everyone gets to see that side of me. I feel Aquarius people do care, a little too much, so we have to protect ourselves and only open up if we deem it to be safe and worth it.

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Yes, we care way too much, hence why we build boundaries. We can be very aloof, could be mistaken being un-empathic.

posted July 29, 2015 01:36 PM            

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Originally posted by MineAgain:
There is a slight difference between a zodiac sign and an actual human being, unless you do identify with your sign on a daily basis even during your random encounters with strangers.

A zodiac sign is not a human being. It is a sign which until proven otherwise is just something immaterial and metaphysical. It does not define who you are on a personal basis. It is not the essence of your being.

Throwing insults at an actual human being is another story. These are two different levels.

There is a slight difference between saying: "Scorpios are mean spirited" and saying: "Faith is meant spirited". The impact is different. In one sentence I am talking about a metaphysical concept in another I'm talking about an actual person.

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Whether you implicate me as part of a herd or as an individual...you are still implicating me.

I feel a general sense of empathy towards others which prevents me from making generalized statements against any placement.

I believe that without this empathy, it would be easier for me to make sweeping, insulting statements.

It's actually less insulting, in my opinion, to single out one person's behavior, and address that.

I feel better when people say, "You, Faith, just did something awkward" than when they say, "Capricorns are all so awkward!!"

Because the former is a smaller insult; it's only about me, and only about one thing I did. Not about all Capricorns and everything we do.

But...it's a matter of taste.

posted July 29, 2015 01:39 PM              

Funnily enough, the Aquarius and I are fine now. I still think he is nice; but I live with the fact that he is now in a long term relationship and it's not with me. He chose someone else when he knew I liked him and nothing overrides that.

The Taurus, you can read about him in Soul Unions and the unrequited love thread.

Betrayal after making it to boyfriend status: Virgo

posted July 29, 2015 02:25 PM            

Another semi-heartbreak was a very aries-influenced Taurus guy. He was very special, but also a lot older than me. We were two completely different places in our lives, so it was a bad timing I guess... I didn't understand him, so when he told me he didn't wanted to be anything but friends I took it very hard (way too hard). So I shut him out of my life, by once another mistake. He could have been a good friend of mine I am sure! Such a shame!

I also suffered from a little heartbreak once, from another Aries sun guy. I was soooo much in live with him all the way through high school, but never acted on it. At some reunion a couple years later we suddenly began flirting, and went on a date.

The date never really got into anything because I was actually sick that day, but didn't wanted to show him (once again, a big mistake that I wasn't honest with him)
He clearly lost interest in me, and didn't even wanted to give it another date!
So my high school lover, turned out to be a big fail lol!

posted July 29, 2015 02:26 PM              

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Originally posted by MineAgain:
This part was not necessary. You had it coming, I'm sorry. I wouldn't have called you a ***** if you hadn't said what I quoted above.

It was a personal attack which had nothing to do with the actual debate regarding my Aquarius comment. You could have easily explained your position without stating the above mentioned irrelevant comment.

You dared to say such comment and I just reacted to what you said.

You were being mean purposely and you know it. I did not comment on your personal story and you crossed the line when you discarded mine.

You're perfectly allowed to tell someone they hurt your feelings by saying such and such, but it does not give you an excuse to dismiss someone's experience as irrelevant because they didn't date the person for a certain amount of time. Experiences do not require any numerical skills.

Using personal matters to conduct an argument is low and immature, just like calling someone names. I called you names as a result of your unreasonable argument.

You are the bitter one, not me. I am harsh, rigid and jaded, but at least, I do not discard people's experiences to build a lousy argument in a trivial debate. This is low.

As I said, you need to control your anger just like I may need to be a bit less harsh in my wording. This is a forum, not a real life conversation.

We're all a work in progress here. This doesn't justify personal attacks.

This thread will hopefully be closed by a moderator as it's been derailed completely from its initial purpose which was to share painful experiences and not have a debate on the flaws of each zodiac sign.

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posted July 29, 2015 05:05 PM            

The first one also had a Pisces Sun. He lost his mind and entire personality in drugs and alcohol. I couldn't communicate with him anymore. He had a complete personality flip. After years of knowing him, I felt like the person I knew (or thought I knew) died.
He had been through abuse and had a strange relationship with his father. I don't think this is an excuse, but it does explain why he was so broken.

posted July 29, 2015 05:09 PM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
I have never been heartbroken. My Capricorn moon is too cold, detached and uncaring when push comes to shove. The ones *I* have broken up with have been treated very kindly however.

I am partially joking

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posted July 29, 2015 06:57 PM            

Not all Pisces moons are crazy.

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posted July 29, 2015 07:44 PM            

He was an Aqua Sun/Merc/Mars (all in my 7th)
Virgo Moon opp my Pisces Sun.

The other time my heart was truly broken was by my Leo ex.. I still hurt over that if I dwell on it or him too much. I avoid places I might see him and people who might talk about him.. I spent a VERY long time in an emotional stupor. For at least a month I was completely inconsolable, literally crying myself to sleep and still crying when I woke up until one morning I woke up and didn't feel anything at all. That numbness lasted for more time than I care to talk about and I don't really remewmuch of what happened during that time.

posted July 29, 2015 08:11 PM            

Back to the personal heartbreaks, though.

Pisces Sun male: My father. From a very young age he's been sort of self absorbed, neglectful, cocky and preachy. Actually, since I was born, according to my lovely Pisces grandmother. Thankfully, I took this heartbreak with a grain of salt, and Pisceans can no longer run their master thespian game on me.

Leo Suns: I had trying times with Leos during high school. One is a female, and she is a relative who made me question my independence, emotional and physical strength, integrity, authenticity, happiness. Through dealing with her those 4 years, I was able to heighten my level of compassion and self control. The other was my Leo high school crush who was (is) too in love with himself to deeply care about anything. He only kept me around to stroke, sculpt and build his ego (I'm a Taurus), and immaturely I broke it down before he could completely break me, which led to him sticking around for validation. For example, adding me back on Facebook the three times I deleted him, and inviting me to shows even though I've moved to another state. With him, I was able to gain some maturity, apologize for my immaturity and keep the peace. Yes!

Aquarius Sun/Moon females: All four, mates. The Aquarius Sun is my Leo relative's on/off partner, and she always made me feel like I had to work for recognition, love, acceptance, unison. Yes, effort is needed...but not strife! The other Aquarius Sun claimed to be an acquaintance/friend who I could talk to and trust throughout high school. Well, senior year she ended up having a thing with my Leo Sun high school crush. After all of those personal talks we had about family, crushes and hopes in choir and Driver's Ed. A girl I considered a close friend who has an Aquarius Moon stole from me on my birthday. My boss who has an Aquarius Moon always tells me she wishes I knew Jesus the way she does. She hates the fact that I say, "I'm a Believer, but not a Christian. I don't like labels." Aquarius is on my 9th house cusp (higher learning), and I guess the only thing I've learned from these gals is how to read the bs, and accept the fact that the interesting, sparkly, pretty Aquarian packages can have a nice BS surprise!