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Ami Anne
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posted August 04, 2015 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Five Quick Ways To Identify a Player From the Natal Chart

1. A 5th House Stellium–A stellium is 3 or more planets in a House.

2. These planets should NOT be in the stellium—Saturn and Chiron. If they are, he is unlikely to be a player

3. Planets in the 5th House that strongly make him a player—Jupiter, Mars, Uranus, Pluto, Sun, Moon, Venus

4. The RULERS of the planets are, most likely, from 5th House( it’s own House), the 7th House, the 8th House, the 10th House and the 12th House.

5. In the above instances, the person is using romance to take the place of other life activities. He is using romance/playing to take the place of actual intimacy. Actual intimacy is the 8th House. A serious relationship is the 7th House. Career is the 10th House, Mysticism and creativity is the 12th House. For the player, he subsumes these activities/interests/passions in favor of quick romance and quick sexual affairs

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posted August 04, 2015 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sven555     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami, really?

This is more like 5 quick ways to see whether a MAN will cheat. Planets in the 5th house don't always mean someone will cheat.

You've basically suggested that every guy with any planet in their 5th house (except Chiron and Saturn) has a high chance of being a player, wrong again.

Not sure about the rulers, but again having your 5th house ruler in 7th, 8th, 10th or 12th doesn't constitute to a guy being a player.

The post is absolute ludacris.

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posted August 04, 2015 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unless my boyfriend suddenly turns out to be a player (which I sure don't hope so) I have to disagree with this

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posted August 04, 2015 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So 1 would cancel out 3? My 5th House is loaded.

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posted August 04, 2015 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me too, I have to disagree. This is also the house of being creative, an artist, performer, children, working with children, gambling and so forth.

Also, for someone being a great LOVER, I don't necessarily mean the physical part, but being loving, romantic, tender hearted, generous, in a good sense. It's a Leo house. A fixed house.

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posted August 04, 2015 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These are 5 traits in the chart of a player from my experience doing charts.

One would need to look at the entire chart to see the whole picture.

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posted August 04, 2015 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've only known one player enough to do her chart (and I could explain it astrologically but I think her upbringing was involved as well ETA: *). I don't know enough players in real life, I have nothing to do with them and can spot them easily, and since all they want is a hole and they find that's not going to happen they almost always go look for easier prey with little effort on my part.

(*ETA: the player and cheater I knew had a packed first house, Aries, and no other stelliums and nothing in the fifth. I think that as she had to constantly prove herself worthy of acceptance, let alone love, all throughout childhood that this became part of her Self and manifested in a number of ways, including at playing others and racking up a score which her 2nd decan Aries sun was determined to do, and she may have also been addicted to risk taking.)

It might be interesting to go to sex addict group and get their natal charts (assuming they're players, they have to be liars and manipulators who see their "prey" as objects to be used and discarded to be players, even someone who just uses a lot of prostitutes or accepts invites to orgies or "swings" isn't a player even if it is cheating/betrayal). I'd suggest famous people (like Tiger Woods and Eric Benet) but they tend to have a sense of entitlement, a high opinion of themselves (otherwise they wouldn't seek the spotlight), and also a lot more temptation than most the rest of us will ever have, so I'm not sure that's a good place to look. Heck, "player" is seen as an accomplishment and compliment in some circles which would encourage people to be players who'd otherwise show more restraint.

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posted August 04, 2015 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Free Leon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sven555:
The post is absolute ludacris.

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posted August 04, 2015 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know someone I would call a player and he has Sun, Mercury, Venus and Jupiter all in Gemini. He has a Leo moon. Everything except moon and Neptune is really afflicted by Virgo Mars/Uranus/Pluto and Pisces Saturn. Not sure what his time of birth is. Would be interesting to see if the Gemini planets fall in house five, or Mars, Uranus and Pluto in Virgo.

And I just looked at a chart made for 12 noon the day he was born. He has sun conjunct the north node, too!

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posted August 04, 2015 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars square or opposite or tightly conjunct Uranus - a sign of a cheater/player

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posted August 04, 2015 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
Mars square or opposite or tightly conjunct Uranus - a sign of a cheater/player

I never heard this one. Why do you think, O?

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posted August 04, 2015 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I know someone I would call a player and he has Sun, Mercury, Venus and Jupiter all in Gemini. He has a Leo moon. Everything except moon and Neptune is really afflicted by Virgo Mars/Uranus/Pluto and Pisces Saturn. Not sure what his time of birth is. Would be interesting to see if the Gemini planets fall in house five, or Mars, Uranus and Pluto in Virgo.

And I just looked at a chart made for 12 noon the day he was born. He has sun conjunct the north node, too!


So, you see Mars afflictions as a factor, S?

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posted August 04, 2015 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
So, you see Mars afflictions as a factor, S?


Could be. He has Mars/Pluto/Uranus in Virgo opposite Saturn in Pisces.
I told him I sensed trouble headed his way over this situation he is about to get into but of course my opinion is meaningless.

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posted August 04, 2015 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 04, 2015 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One of my old articles on players

The Charts of Players

Can you believe there are aspects which show a player? The fifth house is usually prominent. The fifth house is the house of fun, sex, creativity and romance, When you do Chart Ruler Analysis, the player’s chart will show that he channels many other parts of life in to the fifth house. In other words, he takes the energy one might spend on career(10th house) or getting to know a person in a deep way(8th house) and channels it in to the fifth house( romance). Often, the player will have his 12th house(deep mystical leanings and spirituality) channeled in to the 5th house.

Player will often have element voids. There are four elements–earth, fire, water and air. Strangely enough, many players have a void. I don’t know why. Voids are rare.

Players will, usually, have a tenderness aspect, too. How can they get the woman if they do not have a sweetness? They may have a Cancer ASC which is the sign of the mother, home and nurturing The ASC is one’s outer self, so this man will appears tender in his outer mannerisms . have seen the Asteroid Ceres prominent in the charts of players, too. Ceres is unconditional love.

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posted August 04, 2015 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you could associate one sign with player, it would be Saggi, I think.

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posted August 04, 2015 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think you can know from a natal.

There is synastry at play for both the relationship and the person that they are cheating with.

I've seen the same people cheat on one person but remain faithful to someone else, even if the relationship is failing.
You simply can't know from natal alone.
Even for a player.
I've cheated, but only once. I think it had much more to do with the synastry with the other person than anything else. It really snuck up on us!
I've been a player as well, but only during a short period.

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It's all very up in the air with Sag, though. I knew a Scorp Sun with a Venus/Moon conjunction in Sag and he's NEVER had a girlfriend, however, every time he pursues a girl, he always dangles the prospect of a relationship over their head until he gets what he wants. Infuriating creature.

But then, you have a Sag like my boyfriend who has Sun/Mercury/Neptune/Mars all tightly conjunct in Sag in... house 5. I've never met a more honest, faithful person in my life. I would honestly bet my house and a lifetime of indentured servitude that he would never cheat. His longest relationships have been a set of 4+ years, 14+ years, and now 3 years with me, all faithful.

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posted August 04, 2015 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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My ex was (still is lol) a big cheater but he doesn't have anything in the 5th. I was thinking it could be his Jupiter in the 8th and Venus in the 9th (read somewhere that is a 'grass is greener' placement) square Uranus.

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posted August 04, 2015 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A player is not necessarily a cheater, although he may be. It is someone who has many, quick relationships without much depth.

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posted August 04, 2015 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Five Quick Ways To Identify a Player From the Natal Chart:

1. Sun in Sagittarius

2. Moon in Sagittarius

3. Venus and/or Mars in Sagittarius

4. 9th house stellium

5. Jupiter conjunct or tightly aspecting personal planets

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That's more like it.

Kidding a little bit...but IMHO, Sag is more the player than Leo/5H any day.

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posted August 04, 2015 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
9th house stellium

No way. I am this. We get lost in books and ideas. That is our joy lol

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posted August 04, 2015 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And cheaters aren't necessarily players. Here, from UD, a typical player at work:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=player

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A man who seduces woman to make them think that they are the love of their life. Once the woman falls for the man, he casually asks her out on a date. When descirbing the date to her he will make it sound very romantic. ex. picnic on a beach, dinner and a movie, etc. The woman will meet the man and soon find out plans have changed. For some reason the man wants to stay at home. Since the woman likes the man so much she will not think twice about it. She will soon find out that the man only wants to be sexually with her and couldn't give a damn about her, her life, or her personality. But the woman will give into the man, feeling that being physical will make their relationship stronger. When, in reality, the man has no intention of even talking to the woman after that night!

Players got game (pick up lines and other techniques). He is not after a relationship, he intends from the very start to find a female to use and then lose (or possibly start a collection, each one thinking they're the only one). Plenty of males do this below the age of 25, but plenty also outgrow it...'course some males never, ever do this in their life (while others never stop no matter how old they get). Likewise, females can be players as well, though some seem to be more after money than sex which can get real blurry.

OTOH a married man who secretly patronizes prostitutes while on business trips or off on a military assignment isn't a player, though he is a cheater. Another man who finds himself alienated by his wife's hostility or passive aggressive behavior may find himself tempted to stray, especially if a golden opportunity presents itself (say if a woman shows interest in him, particularly as a person), but that's not necessarily being a player (though he is a cheater), especially if there's an emotional connection and if he wonders if he should leave his wife because he no longer loves her yet is infatuated with this new woman (he's cheating and also lying to his wife and possibly the other woman but he's not someone who "plays the game" saying whatever he must to get access to her holes). And an ex who comes to get her man back after he's dating another woman and succeeds (even if only for a few minutes) also by itself doesn't make the man a player (nor is she, unless this is normal behavior for her), though he has cheated. However, a married man IS a player if he finds women to use and lose (like through computer hookups where he lies about being single and looking for "someone special") that his wife isn't to know about.

The difference being that a player lies to most everyone (and probably everyone) and was never trying to start a relationship but was intending to find living sex toys, and he sees the women he uses (or men if he's gay, or if it's a female player) as an object and is no more interested in her feelings or in having a relationship than he is with a blow up doll (or a dildo if s/he's into that). You're nothing to him, he doesn't give a damn about you as he coos his sweet nothings to you and everything you are means nothing to him, it's only him looking to find the levers (say and do the right things) to do what he wants until he tires of you or until you realize what he is.

That said, I suppose it's possible that some who are seductive but not promising nor even implying a long term relationship (think James Bond and Captain Kirk) could be considered players, though that's not how I think of them. But if these are also considered players then I don't mean to include them as the above, nor are they cheaters because they never agreed or even reasonably implied anything other than attraction and a willingness to act on it if she desires him back.

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