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PixieJane
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posted August 09, 2015 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Geminiyoungster:
See this is what I don't let like about libras and I'm a libra asc! I know a lot of libras that do this and this gets on my nerves. I will never undserstand how you will turn ppl against each other to get your viewpoint on things. Just be honest with ppl.. This is what Libra suns do..

What she's saying is that if you try to take unfair advantage of a Libra to screw one over because you can't see past the velvet glove then Libra will call you out on it in front of everyone, essentially taking it to the judge, or acting as a lawyer before a jury of peers, as opposed to spreading rumors about you designed to alienate everyone against you where you don't even get a chance to defend yourself.

That is not dishonest, but the person who tried to screw over Libra or anyone Libra cares about will probably be shocked (and is likely the one who is dishonest which Libra is calling them out on), but that doesn't mean Libra was dishonest, only that you underestimated Libra when you thought you could wipe your butt with her or someone she cares about. If anything, it's Libra who calls you on your BS or at least gets the team to ask what are our values and intentions and what are we willing to put up with. (But the desire to punish, as opposed to set things right, is probably pretty weak unless there's a lot of Scorpio in the chart, or possibly Cancer or Capricorn.)

The only thing I understand about Libra seeming dishonest is that Libra makes a sincere desire to be fair (doesn't always succeed, but one tries, and plenty of Libras are aware of their imperfection in this area which is why we tend to be indecisive before acting in SOME ways--not to be confused with spineless or flaky, just pondering which path is best before going ahead resolutely), and this desire to be fair can sometimes be inconvenient (or worse) to Libra herself (and people don't understand this) or to someone Libra is close to which is seen as backstabbing since most of the world doesn't even try to be fair (even just trying to "get the full story in order to be fair" rather than automatically taking a side can be insulting to many which is why many Libras learn not to do so openly as it's often so alienating).

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posted August 09, 2015 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Geminiyoungster:
See this is what I don't let like about libras and I'm a libra asc! I know a lot of libras that do this and this gets on my nerves. I will never undserstand how you will turn ppl against each other to get your viewpoint on things. Just be honest with ppl.. This is what Libra suns do..

Meaning we know how to make you see a side of something you weren't expecting before.

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AlexandraWood
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posted August 09, 2015 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlexandraWood     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
omgosh! i will come back and reply more in depth later...cause I'm going off to the gym now. But just wanted to say, I dont know if its the ascendant rising...but I've always sparked up if I think something is wrong, if I want to defend a friend or if someone in my opinion is being an ******* . I also get extremely passionate over racism, discrimination, drug use, underdogs. My partner thinks I'm crazy cause I get so upset at injustice, even if it has nothing to do with me. I can be quite cold when I argue and have made people cry, including my Capricorn partner which is a feat because Capricorns crying is rare. After this I feel HORRIBLE! Try to make peace and find compromises....but initially I am very idealistic on how things SHOULD be.

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posted August 10, 2015 03:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlexandraWood     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had a better read of the thread now that I finally have some time, and had a bit of a laugh... My Mercury is 23 degrees in Libra and my Mars is 26 degrees in Libra. OH NO!

I wouldn't say I'm spineless...but I am indecisive to an extent. That's only because NOTHING is black and white. I am extremely analytical, I have to say that being a Mercury in Libra wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, after all Libra is a masculine sign and we are rational thinkers. We may be charming but when it comes to wording cold hard truths, when pushed enough we do. Which debating is such a fun activity, if you can string facts and truths together in a diplomatic fashion that makes the other side actually WANT yo agree its a win/win.

I don't think Libra is a dirty fighter, but the whole utilising a situation to its utmost comes natural to us because we think about it do damn much. As for turning people against people, or playing devil advocate, yes I have done that. But thats only when I sense an injustice and I think the situation is unfair.
In year 12 a couple of girls started talking about another girl in the class when she left the room. I stood up and berated them before the class, telling them they had terrible morals and if they wanted to gossip they should keep it for lunch. Or in year 10 a guy wrote on the board that one of the students was 'Hagrid' from Harry Potter and tried to make everyone laugh at her, so I threw a chair at him and got sent to the principals office. Where upon asked about the issue, I sparked back, "I don't like bullies and students get bullied in every one of your classes. Is that fair? The teachers don't even do anything about it! Of course I'm going to react, I can't humanly sit by and watch" then I fake cried (I can cry on command) and told the Principal that the system was screwed up.
Alas, I got off with seeing the counsellor and the guys who bullied people in classes had to read and sign an anti-bullying contract.
My Dad is an Aquarius, the teachers obviously rang him about my behaviour....but he was proud. HAHA.
Dirty fighters? Kinda....but only for the right cause. I will always defend the underdog or if I see something that is wrong. I will give my last dollar to someone in need. BUT equally I will fake cry and get sympathy before twisting it to advantage.

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posted August 10, 2015 04:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll post something I love about Libra energy... and something that bothers me.

Love: The fact that they are very open, honest and intelligent. It's fun to have a conversation with a Libra. I don't see them as passive, non-confrontational or cowardly.
Libra is generally very good in debate situations... as long as the debate is not too fiery or aggressive. They keep things tactful. But they will always put their opinions across. They're not very shy when it comes to public speaking.

Dislike: This is literally the only thing that bothers me about Libra energy. They are 99% logic and 1% intuition (unless they have several water sign planets).
There are invisible, illogical things in this world that they simply don't understand - and I can't hope to ever explain these things, because they can't be explained in so many words.
A "vibe" means a lot less to Libra than a "sentence". For my Pisces Mercury it's mostly all about vibes, not words and sentences.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted August 10, 2015 04:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquarian Moon:
Let's break some Libra stereo types. Some of us are sweet because we want you to think we are sweet. We want you to have a great impression of us, but we are far from being weak bimbos that look cute. We are not fluffy kittens. Some of us are pretty badass.

Libras have a subtle power. In a leadership position, we'll make decisions that are fair for all, and we'll do it confidently. We don't need to spread fear or lies to gain approval. Our ability to relate to everyone, or appear relative, wins. We also genuinely care about fairness. It's one of the main fibers of our being.

But if you screw us over and mess with something we care deeply about, you'll get what is coming to you. Don't throw us under the bus to get ahead. We don't need to use force and violence to get what we want. We defend ourselves by turning important people against you with valid points to support our arguments. Or arguing. Most likely it would be things we overlooked before because none of us are perfect. And people will agree. A slight undermining so subtle will take place while you eat your sandwich and check your fantasy football scores. And you'll look like the jerk. Or get fired. Iron fist in a velvet glove.

We will stand by the causes that are important to us. We are also fighters in our own way. Mars Librans make great debaters and attorneys. There are many Libran (or Libra-influenced) judges, scientists, and teachers. Mercury Librans are analytical thinkers. They'll get the message across with tact. Many people with several personal planets in Libra are intelligent, tactful, well-spoken, and know how to defend themselves verbally. They also can think logically during a time of chaos.

Libra stellium (Sun, Saturn, Jupiter, Pluto) in the 6th house.

Go, Libra! \o/


It's a leadership, warrior sign (a general, a strategist, not a soldier; but can be a soldier too). Libra cowards? funniest quote! Libra always stands up for justice; and they usually give the final coup, through strategy and tactics. The worst enemy one can have.
Iron fist in a velvet glove.
Best description

Even the Iron Lady is a famous Libra stellium.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted August 10, 2015 04:56 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
I'll post something I love about Libra energy... and something that bothers me.

Love: The fact that they are very open, honest and intelligent. It's fun to have a conversation with a Libra. I don't see them as passive, non-confrontational or cowardly.
Libra is generally very good in debate situations... as long as the debate is not too fiery or aggressive. They keep things tactful. But they will always put their opinions across. They're not very shy when it comes to public speaking.

Dislike: This is literally the only thing that bothers me about Libra energy. They are 99% logic and 1% intuition (unless they have several water sign planets).
There are invisible, illogical things in this world that they simply don't understand - and I can't hope to ever explain these things, because they can't be explained in so many words.
A "vibe" means a lot less to Libra than a "sentence". For my Pisces Mercury it's mostly all about vibes, not words and sentences.


I can see what you mean, I have a Libra Mercury However, Libra is an objective sign, striving for objectivity (relying on hunches or what one feels takes you away from it), Libra placements bring objective energy into the chart (logic, seeing all sides of an issues, fairness regardless one's feelings etc.), while Pisces usually infuses subjectivism. But we need both What I mean is we can't expect a subjective approach from Libra placements, it's not their role in the zodiac.

Of course, both objectivity and subjectivity have their limits.

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AlexandraWood
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posted August 10, 2015 05:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlexandraWood     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I can see what you mean, I have a Libra Mercury However, Libra is an objective sign, striving for objectivity (relying on hunches or what one feels takes you away from it), Libra placements bring objective energy into the chart (logic, seeing all sides of an issues, fairness regardless one's feelings etc.), while Pisces usually infuses subjectivism. But we need both What I mean is we can't expect a subjective approach from Libra placements, it's not their role in the zodiac.

Of course, both objectivity and subjectivity have their limits.


I love how diplomatically you answered...and also that last line. It really is the Mercury Libra speaking, all fairness and seeing both sides.

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posted August 10, 2015 05:25 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Alexandra , and for pointing that out hahaha I wasn't even aware of it.

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GeminiKarat
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posted August 10, 2015 05:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess the last man has a libra stellium.

My personal female libra stellium wants to be attacked by this man.

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NYCdodger
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posted August 10, 2015 06:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
I'll post something I love about Libra energy... and something that bothers me.

Love: The fact that they are very open, honest and intelligent. It's fun to have a conversation with a Libra. I don't see them as passive, non-confrontational or cowardly.
Libra is generally very good in debate situations... as long as the debate is not too fiery or aggressive. They keep things tactful. But they will always put their opinions across. They're not very shy when it comes to public speaking.

Dislike: This is literally the only thing that bothers me about Libra energy. They are 99% logic and 1% intuition (unless they have several water sign planets).
There are invisible, illogical things in this world that they simply don't understand - and I can't hope to ever explain these things, because they can't be explained in so many words.
A "vibe" means a lot less to Libra than a "sentence". For my Pisces Mercury it's mostly all about vibes, not words and sentences.


I would say a Libra moon is more intuitive than any other personal planet in libra

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AlexandraWood
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posted August 10, 2015 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlexandraWood     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Thank you, Alexandra , and for pointing that out hahaha I wasn't even aware of it.


I have to admit, when I read your reply I had a bit of a chuckle and smiled. I'm also a Mercury Libra so I feel its the kind of answer I would also give. Like the not easily offended and analytical. It's also very correct, I don't think anyone could argue with it. You haven't even tried to be like "OBJECTIVE IS BETTER".
Always fair, the scales are.

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posted August 10, 2015 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmiqPhuz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
I'll post something I love about Libra energy... and something that bothers me.

Love: The fact that they are very open, honest and intelligent. It's fun to have a conversation with a Libra. I don't see them as passive, non-confrontational or cowardly.
Libra is generally very good in debate situations... as long as the debate is not too fiery or aggressive. They keep things tactful. But they will always put their opinions across. They're not very shy when it comes to public speaking.

Dislike: This is literally the only thing that bothers me about Libra energy. They are 99% logic and 1% intuition (unless they have several water sign planets).
There are invisible, illogical things in this world that they simply don't understand - and I can't hope to ever explain these things, because they can't be explained in so many words.
A "vibe" means a lot less to Libra than a "sentence". For my Pisces Mercury it's mostly all about vibes, not words and sentences.


I've got the Libra stellium as well as the Scorpio stellium. I'd say I'm more 50% logic, 50% intuition. Maybe more intuition...it can be a big conflict on the inside.

I've gotten along with a lot of Pisces mercuries.

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posted August 10, 2015 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquarian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GeminiKarat:
I guess the last man has a libra stellium.


omg, yus.

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posted November 26, 2015 03:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love this thread! Go Libra!

I'm very Libra according to my chart, I'm not so sure if that's how I really act, but 😉

Libra IS IN ME haha my dad was trying to pick a fight because the tenant was sleeping and I was talking too loud.. (I always talk extremely loud) and anyways I just turned away and walked it off

I don't have time for arguments. They are futile and upsetting and I don't like them! But I did fight a lot with my Virgo sister today. God she's a ***** . She's really rude and probably just jealous of me because I'm a lot better than her at certain things. Oh well , she can rot in hell

Gah
What else is there to say? Libra is the most desired sign, besides not being egocentric enough when it's the sun sign. I definitely believe this is true. Like this is sad but sometimes I don't even want to talk in a conversation because I feel like I'm being all about me. Or maybe I generally am and realize it and this is my way of coping! Who knows

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posted November 26, 2015 03:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
God I feel like I purposely subconciohsly acted more indecisive and justified in my speech because I read the Libra descriptions. That's the only problem with Astrology .. Knowing something and not being influenced by it!!

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posted November 26, 2015 03:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini Blues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, if signs opposite act opposite, how would you say Gemini and Sag are opposite? Perhaps a thread request?

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posted November 26, 2015 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StillTippin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is the stuff that can turn you off from astrology SMH


I'm a Libra to the highest power. I have a sun, mars, south node and ascendant in libra so I have been, will always be, and make it known that I'm a Libra and I say that to say I can't relate any to how they described us. Maybe some Libras have problems in those areas but not me, and I don't plan to.


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Ami Anne
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posted November 26, 2015 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Glad you guys like this thread

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posted November 26, 2015 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AlexandraWood:
I As for turning people against people, or playing devil advocate, yes I have done that. But thats only when I sense an injustice and I think the situation is unfair.

See, that's the thing that I don't get. You are human just like the people who made the decisions that you don't like. Your judgment of other people being 'unfair' is not necessarily 'correct,' because what is right for you may be wrong for someone else. As an Aries-influenced person, I think it would be better to just worry about yourself instead of trying to use other people and situations to 'correct' someone else. That whole thing just rubs me the wrong way.
Usually, when a Libra has had a problem with me, it was actually just caused by their own insecurities and misinterpretation of the situation. So they judged the situation as unfair through that filter. Which is in turn, not fair to me.
That said, I don't think the world is *supposed* to be fair. It doesn't really owe us anything. So it just seems like 'fairness' translates to 'what I want the situation to be.' And if that's the case, why not just say that and act like that, instead of using moral righteousness as a cover motive?

Rant over

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posted November 26, 2015 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gemini Blues:
So, if signs opposite act opposite, how would you say Gemini and Sag are opposite? Perhaps a thread request?


GREAT idea. My wrist is going better. I would love to write about this.

Can you formulate some more questions.

Just some simple thoughts!

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I can see what you mean, I have a Libra Mercury However, Libra is an objective sign, striving for objectivity (relying on hunches or what one feels takes you away from it), Libra placements bring objective energy into the chart (logic, seeing all sides of an issues, fairness regardless one's feelings etc.), while Pisces usually infuses subjectivism. But we need both What I mean is we can't expect a subjective approach from Libra placements, it's not their role in the zodiac.

Of course, both objectivity and subjectivity have their limits.


That's the most Libra thing any Libra has Libra'd on this thread.

Aqua Moon, thanks for putting that up - that side of things needed to have a voice too.

I'm a Libra with lots of water, hence not as objective as my Libra sun would like me to be. But I agree with what these folks (Aqua moon, LeeLo, Pixie) said. Libra energy is actually the action-form of Pisces energy. Pisces very much wants to defend you, but empathizes a lot about the other guy too. And they like as not will not want to 'take a stand', so to speak (depending on their other placements). Although Libras get flak for 'seeing both sides', they're not really 'siding with your enemy', they're just trying to talk it out with you.

When it comes down to it, they're in fact possibly the only one of your friends with the gumption to stand up to your detractors and put them in their place. While simultaneously charming them (seems impossible, but it happens - watch carefully the next time you see a Libra set to work on someone) into feeling guilty about being mean to you (Libra's friend), such a wonderful person. All without a ruffled feather.

All cardinals have this streak of 'protecting the clan'. Aries bulldozes the person who injures their friend, leaving a trail of dust in their wake. Capricorn will snub you out so subtly you won't notice till you're shut out for good. Cancer will go from sweet to angry-mother-hen-pecking-at-the-threat in under sixty seconds (which is real cute, btw). Libra will charm all concerned parties into submission. They'd be too modest to brag that they defended you, and it would happen too smoothly for anyone to realize - hence the bad rap. (In fact, they'd swear up and down they did nothing, it was all some sort of Mary Poppins magic that the other party finally saw reason). i.e. The air and earth cardinals will do it subtly - the water and fire ones will leave mo doubt about it. Each has their own style.

Now when it comes to the Libra (more specifically Libra mars) passive-aggressiveness, and other such tendencies - those are Libra energy expressed negatively. I won't say they don't exist (hell, even I've seen those).

Each sign has it's own theme. How we choose to express that theme makes all the difference. We can make it a discordant jangle of notes or a stirring symphony of great beauty.

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posted November 27, 2015 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StillTippin:
This is the stuff that can turn you off from astrology SMH


I'm a Libra to the highest power. I have a sun, mars, south node and ascendant in libra so I have been, will always be, and make it known that I'm a Libra and I say that to say I can't relate any to how they described us. Maybe some Libras have problems in those areas but not me, and I don't plan to.


+1 I know plenty of argumentative Libra-heavy people.

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posted November 27, 2015 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StillTippin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LaceyLeigh:
+1 I know plenty of argumentative Libra-heavy people.


This is when I chill out coming on forums Because ppl use their experiences with one sign become a general statement for all. I've never lived the way they described if anything my early life was more martian than anything. Everybody is different. Not on the internet tho, apparently

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This is when I chill out coming on forums Because ppl use their experiences with one sign become a general statement for all. I've never lived the way they described if anything my early life was more martian than anything. Everybody is different. Not on the internet tho, apparently

You're right.. Generalizations can be way off base..

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