posted August 17, 2015 07:20 PM            

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Originally posted by 4lifephrases:
MC in Virgo IC in Pisces
Aries Moon in 4th House
Uranus Finished Transiting 4th House

I AM A REBEL.

My ideal family would be sitting all at dinner table smiling, happy and there is abundant more over from some commercial or movie. Everybody is capable, nobody is competing or jealous of each other achievement. Built up rather than tear down. Laughing and having nurturing healthy relationships with good personal boundaries.

I hate my family and I do not believe in any family relationships. They have so far given me lots of problems and have taken away all my resources. My family doesn't support me in fact leaves me with lots of negativity, lots of abuse as a child.

I have married from someone in another culture and I was asked this weekend if I had broken rule.I said I have been for a while and I was referring to Uranus Transit. Now Uranus has gone to my 5th House I still have serious questions on what my family should be or what I can expect in future realistically?

I always get bit annoyed when people say I have been able to do things because of my family or because support of my family. It makes me realize I really do not have those kind of people around me. I was told about Soul Family and waiting for that people to come up but I also do not see my in laws as that sort of family.

I work hard while everyone else seems to do nothing and I do not want anything from anyone as I do not want to be in their debt which people reclaim for.

I feel highly responsible and anxious for older generation but I also know I do not want to take care of them, as I have wasted lot of time,money and energy taking care of my family and in laws. I do not ask for anything more but people should be at least positive. While I have always been responsible, sensible and understanding I have seen lack of it towards me.

Sorry for big rant but I am really frustrated and I actually hate my IC house.

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posted August 17, 2015 09:49 PM            

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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
While the MC represents who you are to the world and what you are here to give to it the IC represents how those qualities are brought together.

If the MC is the celebrity, the IC is the manager.

But why is it treated as if it i so insignificant?

How has your IC influenced your life guys? And what house does yours fall in? (For those who follow the whole house system)

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posted August 17, 2015 10:05 PM            

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Originally posted by erickaf:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by NYCdodger:
[b]While the MC represents who you are to the world and what you are here to give to it the IC represents how those qualities are brought together.

If the MC is the celebrity, the IC is the manager.

But why is it treated as if it i so insignificant?

How has your IC influenced your life guys? And what house does yours fall in? (For those who follow the whole house system)

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posted August 17, 2015 10:07 PM            

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Originally posted by AstroAJ:
My IC is at one degree Sag. Sitting just to the left at 27 Scorpio is Uranus, and just 2 degrees to the right of the IC is Venus at 3 Sag. Uranus is the ONLY planet in water in my whole chart. What I can say is that despite the lack of water I am always connecting really well and drawing in Scorpios, and Scorpio energy. I have always attributed it to my IC and even though it is at 1 Sag, I often wonder if my IC doesn't actually sit in Scorpio.

My birth time comes from my birth certificate, but if it is even just a few minutes off my IC could actually be in scorpio. Uranus and venus both conjunct my IC both play out in a very big way. I have unconventional views of what I am looking for in home life and I attribute it to Uranus on the IC.

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posted August 18, 2015 12:19 AM            

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Originally posted by margym0o:
I'm not sure if this helps anyone, but I dug a little deeper into this IC thing especially with past synastries and I literally said "WOW" out loud when I read this about his Saturn conjunct my IC in synastry:

"If someone’s Saturn falls on my IC or in my fourth house, I will most likely feel responsible for them. I may want to guide and nurture them, and feel a profound link that may be more familial than romantic, though the two feelings certainly can merge. At first, I will feel safe, and anchored. If the person who owns Saturn has parent issues, I may eventually fall into the role of a father or mother figure, particularly if there is an age difference in the relationship. The attachment may unconsciously be one of parent/mentor, and a lack of equality in the relationship may not go noticed until it is too late. Saturn may be fine in the beginning of the relationship, but after a time the angle person may find themselves increasingly unable to express their emotions in any kind of honest or spontaneous way. Saturn may bring the angle person unwelcome familial responsibility. The angle person may feel emotionally oppressed and burdened by the relationship, and grow tired of carrying someone else’s Saturn issues as well as their own." (http://theinnerwheel.com/2009/10/13/synastry-studies-the-mcic-part-two-aspects-and-inter-aspects/)

This explains SO much about how I felt towards the end of my relationship with this individual, it's mind boggling. We had a great relationship, lots of laughs and warm fuzzy feelings (his Moon fell in my 4th - along with Neptune and Saturn/Uranus conjunct IC) but it was almost TOO warm and fuzzy...too easy...too familiar? He was my best friend, which was great, but there was very little romantic spark, very little raw passion.

I've always told everyone the biggest reason I ended things with him was because I felt like his "mother" (he is 2 years younger than me). I did everything for him...cook, clean, etc. and mentored him in every area of his life - I even taught him how to do his hair (yes...). It was cute at first, I almost felt like I was molding him (like a project), but then it began to wear on me because I realized he was teaching ME nothing, and I began to resent it. It almost became like a burden because he was so "helpless" in so many areas.

If I wanted an easy peasy life with someone reliable and predictable and "safe," I would have stayed with him...but I needed a bigger challenge and someone who pushed me to grow.

The bond is strong though. Even after the break up there were next to no hard feelings and we remain friends to this day.

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girl, i have this with my partner right now (same sex union). i definitely feel 60% of what you said with my partner now and i must say i do feel like I'm the one that's taking care of her and the one that always supporting her emotionally omg i feel that way totally my moon conjunct her sun...BUT its so weird at the same time i also feel she is teaching me a lot of things about myself especially my problems that i have to work on almost like she's a loving/harsh father/mother that is teaching me my own problems that i have to work on, her pallas conjunct my saturn in 5th or it could be another aspect cause i honestly feel she is teaching me and protecting me and taking care of me as well but i definitely also feel I'm protecting her as well and taking care of her. these are the aspects to give you an idea, her saturn , uranus and YURLOV all in her 3rd house is also conjunct my IC/ceres/mars/mercury/aphrodite/lust all under 1 orb. her saturn/uranus/amor conjunct/parallel my NN. i have no idea i do understand how you felt the one taking care of them. but in this case she never had parental issues and she is 4 years older then me, i do feel this heavy responsibility of course soooooo much but i also feel she is teaching me and lectures me like a parent when i act like a spoiled brat and she also tells me she feels responsible as well at times. ill have to ask her tmrw and get back to this cause this is interesting.

with my ex though OMG i felt i was totally taking care of her omg...i felt like she was a little kid completely (my moon conjunct her MC) she never wanted to work i was always doing her resumes, trying to inspire her to work to get a job, she was always depressed feelings hopeless next to me and telling me how luckier i am than her.