posted August 31, 2015 11:55 AM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
Good point Gabby!
I think that applies to Pisces moons as well. Now that you mention it, that makes a LOT of sense!

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posted September 02, 2015 12:55 AM            

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Originally posted by HadesFish:
The Virgo 8th would be labeled mysterious for me.
Virgo's and Cap's I find " hard to read", actually the hardest to read, but that's just in general without the 8th house. I don't know why.

Overall I would say heavy Scorpio and Pisces are the most mysterious... To pinpoint because there is something that they hold back, always.

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Yeah, the 8th House placements just compounds that effect. Even people who are supposedly good at reading others can't figure us out. I've never had that problem with non-8th House Caps & Virgos, though. But I am on their wavelength, so there's not much that seems mysterious about them/us to me.

I agree that Pisces and/or 12th House placements are similar in that regard.

posted September 02, 2015 10:46 AM            

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Originally posted by StubbornVirgo:
Yeah, the 8th House placements just compounds that effect. Even people who are supposedly good at reading others can't figure us out. I've never had that problem with non-8th House Caps & Virgos, though. But I am on their wavelength, so there's not much that seems mysterious about them/us to me.

I agree that Pisces and/or 12th House placements are similar in that regard.

Personally, there's signs that frustrate me and baffle me, but I'm not sure whether I would call them mysterious. Very chatty and/or social signs or placements really baffle me. I'm a very private person and not prone to talking much in person or on social media, so it's strange to see someone who tells their whole life story after knowing another person for just five minutes, or updates the world about every second of their life. I've had good friendships with, but been equally confused by the more social signs... Aries, Gemini, Leo, Libra, Sagittarius and Aquarius.

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Ditto to your last paragraph. I'm not quiet per say, but I am private. I don't have social media.

Btw - I like how you explain yourself. You seem real / down to earth!

posted September 02, 2015 12:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Pisces on 6th cusp.... no planets but i do have pisces Pallas/Vesta oppose my virgo moon.
I can't stand pisces drama and i see right through pisces very easily. Probably because of the pisces Pallas opposed 12th house Moon?
Their 'mysteries' feel like high school drama or something that would be on a soap opera...just seems immature and predictable.

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Ouch.

Actually I don't think my mysteries are too petty...there are so many things I just never want to talk about, partly because they would disturb the person I'm talking to, or disrupt their confidence in their own intuition, because they wouldn't have guessed. But these things shape who I am.

ETA: I'm a Pisces moon in case anyone doesn't know.

I don't think this is a saint placement, nor do I think Pisces enjoys feeling victimized...I think Pisces just feels other people's pain.

If you are in pain, so am I.

posted September 02, 2015 12:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:

Ouch.

Actually I don't think my mysteries are too petty...there are so many things I just never want to talk about, partly because they would disturb the person I'm talking to, or disrupt their confidence in their own intuition, because they wouldn't have guessed. But these things shape who I am.

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Honestly, I think I've dealt with some immature pisces(plus they were men) I'm sure woman have an easier time using pisces energy because emotions are natural for women.
Pisces men, it's like they are getting zapped by an emotional tazor. Everytime an emotion comes up and they have to deal with it they get spastic over anything and everything it does not have to be an ACTUAL big deal they will make it one.
They start jerking and twitching and then they fall down and roll around acting like idiots....then they get up and blame you. Lol(this is just my vision of them, of course it's not literal)
Example....my ex, pisces moon
I go to work and accidentally leave **MY PHONE** at work.
He tries to call me as I get off work, but I'm driving home and don't have my phone so I don't answer.
I get home and realize I don't have my phone. I remember I left it plugged in charging at work.
I turn around and go back to work...work is about 40 minutes from my home.
When I get my phone, I call him to tell him what happened. He doesn't answer so I leave a message. No call back from for an hour.
Finally he texts..."your story seems awful convient, what were you really doing?"
My response, "are you being serious?"
He said "ya, who leaves there phone at work?"
I said, "obviously I do and do you recall how you left your phone in a cab 3 days ago? You didn't call me for the whole day. Did act weird about that?"
He said, "no...but I didn't do anything"
I said, "are you saying I did? What exactly did I do?"
He said, "well it's all just very convenient, what did you do, that's what I'd like to know?"
I said, "your a little bit insane, I did nothing but go to work and come home..I forgot my phone, im human I do human stuff like that! Why do you create drama where there is none?"
Anyway I broke up with him shortly after that..

Pisces woman are not the daily flakes I see the men as being.
But they do find drama and bring it home to make it their daily life.

A really good friend of mine, when I met her she was ontop of her game. As I got to know her she started telling me her life story. She had made some poor decisions, married and man that almost killed her and was put in prison for it. He'd been there 7 years...
After I'd known her about a year n half, she tells me her ex is getting out and she's terrified he's coming back for her. She's counting down the days til his release, scared.
A few days after he gets released she comes to work all excited..."we've decided to work things out, he still loves me" she says
Ok so now I'm terrified for her...
I ask if I can meet the guy, I want to see what's going on. She says yes, she's so excited and sets up a time for us to go eat.
I meet him...I bring up everything he's done to her. I tell him how much she's hurt because of him. I have her show me and him the scares she has. I ask him, "why would you do that to her?
He answers because he was a different person before and now wants to make everything right.
I ask him, "how can prove you will ever hurt her again?"
He said "all I can do is not do it."
My friend is all excited, she says..."see he loves me he's going to change"
I'm looking at him knowing, nothing has changed...I can feel it.
I'm looking at her and wondering why?? She had the perfect opportunity to get away...she was free of him!! Why would she go back?
I tried to tell her what I felt...she started to turn on me, so I stopped. I knew all I could do was try to be there for her to help her deal with whatever was about to happen to her.
Her mind was made up..she was back in love with the monster because she thought she'd finally won the battle.....the battle of him seeing she was worthy of love.

You know what....she vanished 2 weeks later. She stopped showing to work and the last time I called her number he answered and said she's a ***** that finally going to get whatever I want to give her. I've never seen or heard from her again.
You know I genuinely loved her...she had a pisces Sun opposed her virgo Moon, her moon was sitting exact on mine.

posted September 02, 2015 01:02 PM            

Not sure what to say, your Pisces moon ex just sounds messed up, and is your friend who got back with the criminal a Pisces sun?

It's horrible and I don't blame you for keeping your distance.

I think Pisces is susceptible to manipulation and sometimes cannot figure the way out.

Strange, though, because the Pisces SUN men I know are all eminently competent and as I've said before, they are like Virgo on steroids. SUPER perfectionist and also, they keep people at a distance.

Pisces moon men are hit and miss in my experience.

posted September 02, 2015 01:07 PM            

My son is a pisces Sun, taurus Moon, scorp AC...he's awesome like your brother. I could see him doing something like that. But I hope he doesnt. I try so hard to help him find a value and self esteem that isn't based on helping/saving others, but it's hard and a constant battle.

posted September 02, 2015 01:35 PM            

Well my brother is deeply compassionate...

It's hard to talk about him because he has his problems, too, and I don't want to glorify him out of measure...but I think he quietly sacrifices and never asks for any recognition or praise at all..he does it with pure intent.

--edits long, crazy story --

As for your son, I hope he turns out like the other Pisces men I've known, who mastered the art of boundaries, and are successful in basically every area.

posted September 02, 2015 02:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Thanks, Gabby.

Ring around the PISCES! Everyone tries to help each other, but everyone always feels like crap no matter what!

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As for your son, I hope he turns out like the other Pisces men I've known, who mastered the art of boundaries, and are successful in basically every area.

As for the friend...god, Virgo sun, Pisces moon...one can imagine them serving way, wayyyy too much. I hope she is okay, too...but I doubt it. She just walked right back into the fire.

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Wow, what a circle!! Ring around the Pisces! Rofl 😂
Today I have such a hard time accepting situations like that....but they used to make me feel needed and I'd easily get all involved.
I guess I've just been burned too often?
I walk away now and know how to say no.
I want to help my son learn to say no and have boundaries like you mentioned.
As far as my friend, I doubt she ok to! She follows her emotions and doesn't use any logic to protect herself.
It's such a hard thing to learn for us Neptunian ppl to learn!

posted September 02, 2015 02:31 PM            

I think it's like...you know, when deaf people get cochlear implants and hear for the first time, it's difficult for them to sort out their impressions, it's a whole other sensory language they have to learn...

Neptunians need to learn another sensory language, too...not just that empathy that comes naturally...they need to feel their way to higher/more spiritual ground. Then they can generate abundance for those around them.

At least, I think that's the higher manifestation of Neptune.

posted September 03, 2015 05:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Glad you are better with boundaries now...yes, VERY hard for Neptunians. So hard.

I think it's like...you know, when deaf people get cochlear implants and hear for the first time, it's difficult for them to sort out their impressions, it's a whole other sensory language they have to learn...

Neptunians need to learn another sensory language, too...not just that empathy that comes naturally...they need to feel their way to higher/more spiritual ground. Then they can generate abundance for those around them.

At least, I think that's the higher manifestation of Neptune.

Always nice chatting with you.

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posted September 03, 2015 05:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
I couldn't agree more, neptunian ppl need to learn more than empathy, that is a losing battle if it's not balanced and grounded.
I always enjoy getting to chat with you also!
I'm learning more and more how Neptunian I really am through you, honestly I didn't realize how much I was.

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posted September 03, 2015 05:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Glad you are better with boundaries now...yes, VERY hard for Neptunians. So hard.

I think it's like...you know, when deaf people get cochlear implants and hear for the first time, it's difficult for them to sort out their impressions, it's a whole other sensory language they have to learn...

Neptunians need to learn another sensory language, too...not just that empathy that comes naturally...they need to feel their way to higher/more spiritual ground. Then they can generate abundance for those around them.

At least, I think that's the higher manifestation of Neptune.

Always nice chatting with you.

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Seems to me like more people need to learn to be empathetic and not the other way around

posted September 03, 2015 08:02 PM            

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Originally posted by PaulMcFly:
Why does everyone give my sign a bad rap? I honestly feel as though unless you're a pisces you truly have no idea how we operate. We're a LOT smarter and more aware than the masses think. I'd say the closest sign that can relate to us fishes are Cancers. We seem to never get credit for anything good we do but when it comes to the everything else people pay attention. Pisces is truly the sign of transcendence, I would say the biggest reasons why we are misunderstood is because we truly do not live on the physical plane.

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posted September 03, 2015 10:00 PM            

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Originally posted by PaulMcFly:
Seems to me like more people need to learn to be empathetic and not the other way around

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posted September 03, 2015 10:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
I couldn't agree more, neptunian ppl need to learn more than empathy, that is a losing battle if it's not balanced and grounded.
I always enjoy getting to chat with you also!
I'm learning more and more how Neptunian I really am through you, honestly I didn't realize how much I was.

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posted September 04, 2015 02:21 AM            

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Originally posted by AlexandraWood:
Personally the signs most mysterious to me are the earth signs. I can't help but be baffled with the lack of emotions (or i see it as lack of emotions).
I think...is there something deeper going on in there??! For me as a Libra sun and Scorpio moon I always have a deeper meaning for everything or my emotions are layered.
But with Capricorns I know or Taurus etc...I am so confused. I think, there has to be something dark and profound going on but they're just really good at covering it up.

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posted September 04, 2015 02:23 AM            

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Originally posted by HadesFish:
Ditto to your last paragraph. I'm not quiet per say, but I am private. I don't have social media.

Btw - I like how you explain yourself. You seem real / down to earth!

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posted September 04, 2015 10:03 AM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
I go to work and accidentally leave **MY PHONE** at work.
He tries to call me as I get off work, but I'm driving home and don't have my phone so I don't answer.
I get home and realize I don't have my phone. I remember I left it plugged in charging at work.
I turn around and go back to work...work is about 40 minutes from my home.
When I get my phone, I call him to tell him what happened. He doesn't answer so I leave a message. No call back from for an hour.
Finally he texts..."your story seems awful convient, what were you really doing?"
My response, "are you being serious?"
He said "ya, who leaves there phone at work?"
I said, "obviously I do and do you recall how you left your phone in a cab 3 days ago? You didn't call me for the whole day. Did act weird about that?"
He said, "no...but I didn't do anything"
I said, "are you saying I did? What exactly did I do?"
He said, "well it's all just very convenient, what did you do, that's what I'd like to know?"
I said, "your a little bit insane, I did nothing but go to work and come home..I forgot my phone, im human I do human stuff like that! Why do you create drama where there is none?"
Anyway I broke up with him shortly after that..

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I don't recall specific but I know of a man who was pretty messed up in a somewhat similar way. IIRC, he had a Pisces sun and Mercury...but I recall thinking his Taurus Venus, Virgo Saturn, and (most likely) Leo Mars was behind it, given how frustrated he was and how he wasn't given much respect (and all his Pisces dreams were failing to be realized).

My BFF with her Pisces stellium (with moon and Mars) felt sorry for him (she blamed her Pisces stellium for her only being attracted to losers and trying to fix their lives in vain--and its 10H which seems to have become warped in that she typically carries them financially). He played all sorts of mind games on her which I presumed was his trying to gain a sense of control back into his life and also perhaps a fear of abandonment. I don't know for sure, she wouldn't let me have much to do with him. He said he found me "scary" (he's not the only one) and tried to get her to not have anything to do with me (because he knew that while my BFF would take his crap, I wouldn't let him get away with it).

Shortly before they broke up my friend was driving me around (and since I paid her to do so it contributed to her ability to take care of him but he just wanted the money to "be there" I guess, probably why he could never understand his sitch between his inability to handle reality and his own delusions of grandeur, thinking he was a lot more creative and talented than he was) he texts her to ask why she was leaving the recycling center.

I told her not to text while on the freeway, he'll understand, and she said that he'd throw a fit if she didn't with angry texts and then pouting and accusations later. I told her to give me the phone but she wouldn't...she heard the tone of my voice and knew I was going to rip him a new one for putting the life of the woman he supposedly cared about at risk (and the lives of others as well) over a mind boggling idiotic question that could certainly wait. She did say he was unreasonable and played all sorts of domination games but she was trying to make it work, and he already fought with her over my being in her life and giving me the phone would just set him off on that again (because I wouldn't let him get away with his BS).