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venus2tinkerbell
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posted September 01, 2015 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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If you don't use it to your needs, it uses you.

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posted September 01, 2015 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just thought it was cute that you commanded us to watch it.

My okayyyyy was like, " YES MOM. I understand! Be right there."

*giggles*

I'll watch and get back to you, when I get time.

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posted September 01, 2015 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 02, 2015 07:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Osc Lilith conjunct Venus and MC in Cancer
Lilith (1181) conjuncts my DSC in taurus
Lilith (the other one) conjuncts jupiter in cancer

ima have to think about how this works for me.
But i feel unafraid to 'go there' where she wants me to go if that makes sense. her rawness feels like something i am not afraid to explore...it's like i want it more and more...but some people are intimidated by it. i'll sleep on it. it's late. zzzzZZZZZzzzzz

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posted September 02, 2015 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 02, 2015 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for meyray     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just a quick unrelated question before I post about Lilith, does anyone what what nationality is Lada Duncheva?

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posted September 02, 2015 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for meyray     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 02, 2015 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm interested in chakras but I can't get excited about this video so I shall stop at the 9th minute. I guess I'm too asocial to care. If you post a tutorial on how to con people, I'll watch it no matter how long it lasts hihi

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posted September 02, 2015 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnFan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Just a quick unrelated question before I post about Lilith, does anyone what what nationality is Lada Duncheva?

Her name is Russian, so either Russia or one of the former Soviet countries.

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posted September 02, 2015 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for meyray     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by meyray:
Just a quick unrelated question before I post about Lilith, does anyone what what nationality is Lada Duncheva?

Nevermind, I did a little research and found out she's Bulgarian like me. Haha, I knew I recognized her accent!

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posted September 02, 2015 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnFan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus, I remember another thread where we discussed Lilith and you gave me great advice on how to find out which of the "Liliths" resonates most with me. I'm finding the one which conjuncts my DSC in Leo to be the most powerful one (not sure how it's called but it's the one you can select from the list on astro.com). I suspect it's especially relevant because it balances my Taurus Moon - Aquarius Venus/AC - Scorpio Pluto t-square, and since the best way to "handle" a t-square is to exhibit the traits of the "missing" sign, exploring my Lilith seems especially important.

Thank you for this thread!

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I think my Libra BML makes me really demanding in relationships. It's squaring Venus. It gives me that I take c*** from no one attitude. But I wish I could be more gentle sometimes, my poor Venus in Cancer desserves some rest.

Asteroid Lilith is conjunct Pluto and Moon. I feel like people are trying to control me even when they don't mean it...

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posted September 02, 2015 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Excellent.

I agree, this was worth watching!

Thank you for it, v2t.

Comments for those who don't have time to watch:

Astrolada says women can attact men and love by having a powerful sacral/2nd chakra. She says this chakra is naturally stronger in women than men. Additionally there are reasons some women naturally have a powerful sacral chakra including "having a lot of water in the horoscope."

If the first chakra, the root chakra, is not stable, it drains the second chakra. The root chakra (more developed, larger in males) is destabilized by financial concerns, survival being threatened. When you can stop worrying about those things, you draw energy up into the sacral chakra, strengthening it, and strengthening one's sex appeal/feminine power.

Men's first chakra provides energy to the women, women's second chakra provides energy/joy & pleasure to the man in exchange. Where people physically bulge it shows where they have energy to give. (Around 11:30, she starts discussing this.)

Women's third chakra (chakra of worldly success) is small, men's third is protruding (I guess she is talking about men developing a paunch)...4th chakra/heart/breasts...where a woman gives more to man. This is the chakra of unconditional love.

[13:08] she explains energy exchanges between men and women...*worth watching*

Men's strengthened third chakra can inspire his woman, give her status, self-esteem, then she can give to the man from her heart center. Some men get blocked and don't give back to the woman's third chakra, but control her. This would not be a healthy relationship. He should empower her rather than suppress her at this point, and that would enable her to feel unconditional love for him.

Women can drain their sacral chakra by overusing her 3rd chakra, pulling too much from the sacral. However if their career is emotionally fulfilling, this chakra will have a healthy rotation, from the 2nd to 4th chakras. Some women renounce their sexuality to achieve great things, drawing up from the 2nd chakra to the 3rd, on purpose.

If the woman has an over-developed third chakra she will repel men, because + and + charges reject each other.

Sleeping around depletes the sacral chakra. A woman has enough energy for ONE male.

[30:20] To generate more sacral energy:

Mechanically, short quick fixes:

1) Be hydrated. Drink more water and try not to be cold, take baths. Eat moisturizing foods, raw fruits (ruled by 2nd chakra) and vegetables.

2) Squeeze the muscles (I think she means the Kegel muscle?)

Other long-term ways:

1) Creativity ~ If a woman's life is devoid of creativity, her feminine power disappears. Men are attracted to actresses, singers, dancers, women in the arts.

If you are in a right-brain, masculine world and don't have a creative outlet -> dance

2) Being present in the moment ~ passively engaged with the present, not always thinking, planning. Meditation.

3) Feel and balance the emotions. Women who live in their heads weaken their feminine power...feeling emotions strengthens it.

Earthing helps...walk on the earth with barefeet. The earth's surface is full of negative ions (feminine energy)...sitting on the earth helps balance the emotions.

Emotional balance LIGHTS UP the sacral chakra. Anchor yourself in your body...cultivate self-respect this way. Self-pampering, gentle exercise, these things generate feminine energy.

4) God - spirituality- faith

If you have this, you stop fearing on the survival level. The fear falls away, because you believe God/Goddess will provide for you. A woman who has a strong spiritual practice will tap energy from above ~ she doesn't have to work on generating sacral energy as much ~ she's "given it by God."

Notes:

* "If you do not respect yourself, you cannot expect a man to do it."

* The second chakra's color is orange. Wear orange clothes to charge up that chakra.

* The second chakra is the chakra of joy and happiness...this draws men. A woman needs an inner joy.

* It's good if a woman can agree with a man about 60%...mostly respecting, sometimes clashing, showing that she is true to herself, and not boring him with monotonous agreement.

* The male/positive, female/negative polarity is physical law. Cannot be changed by political views of female rights, etc.

* A man bonds with a woman by giving... "it is psychologically proven"...a woman bonds by receiving. The sun is masculine and gives, gives, gives... that's his job. The moon is feminine and reflects back the sun.

* Love yourself the way you want to be loved and you will attract a man who will love you the same way.

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posted September 02, 2015 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anno_lucis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lilith is the intuition felt in the body, or, as the vid concurs, in the gut

it's unlike mars since mars is outbound energy. lilith is still receptive. ignore it at your own peril.

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posted September 02, 2015 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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lilith is the intuition felt in the body, or, as the vid concurs, in the gut

It's interesting that you mention this casue this is the Sabian for my Lilith:

PHASE 251 (SAGITTARIUS 11°): IN THE LEFT SECTION OF AN ARCHAIC TEMPLE, A LAMP BURNS IN A CONTAINER SHAPED LIKE A HUMAN BODY.

KEYNOTE: The value of the "return to the body" advocated by modern thinkers in order to balance the stress on intellectuality and objective consciousness.

This sequence of five symbols confronts us with rather mysterious images, which nevertheless can be given very profound and important meanings for today. The original formulation of this symbol spoke of "physical enlightenment," but what seems to be implied, in contemporary terms, is the need to rely upon "the wisdom of the body" of which so much is made in sensitivity training and Gestalt psychotherapy. This refers to the process of deconditioning a consciousness that has become a prisoner of intellectual concepts with their total reliance on quantitative values, objectivity and conformity to the official patterns of our culture.

This represents the first stage of a challenging process — the fifty-first sequence of five symbols. It stresses the importance, for many individuals, of RELYING UPON ORGANISMIC RESPONSES in meeting life's challenges.

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Faith
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posted September 02, 2015 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 02, 2015 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But v2t,

I still don't know why you associate that video with Lilith.

Explain how you see them connecting?

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posted September 02, 2015 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok. I'm coming. Lilith in action has me doing things like hiking 30 miles and working 80 hrs a week (I found out that's possible). I'm coming...

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posted September 02, 2015 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Black Moon Lilith conjuncts my Sun and South Node. Ugh It annoys me some time.

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posted September 03, 2015 05:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Gabby, I'm so disappointed you took your comment down. You always share so honestly and openly. It's easy to connect with what you're saying and gain another perspective, or build on ideas I was already cooking up.

I work insane hours, but I've been reading everyone's personal experience with Lilith, waiting for the couple of hours I get to myself to put up my thoughts on her.


Actually I lied. Yesterday I wasn't working. I took the children to a theme park and they chased me around as I ran from one thrill ride to the next. I'm not usually a thrill ride lady, but you should have seen me yesterday. I was running to the front of the train, and then on the ride I wasn't screaming. I was just exclaiming "Yyyesss! this is what I need". I was worried the people behind me thought I was being obscene, lol, but I couldn't help it!

Anyway, Any chance you might re-post?

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posted September 03, 2015 06:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Excellent.

I agree, this was worth watching!

Thank you for it, v2t.

Comments for those who don't have time to watch:

Astrolada says women can attact men and love by having a powerful sacral/2nd chakra. She says this chakra is naturally stronger in women than men. Additionally there are reasons some women naturally have a powerful sacral chakra including "having a lot of water in the horoscope."

If the first chakra, the root chakra, is not stable, it drains the second chakra. The root chakra (more developed, larger in males) is destabilized by financial concerns, survival being threatened. When you can stop worrying about those things, you draw energy up into the sacral chakra, strengthening it, and strengthening one's sex appeal/feminine power.

Men's first chakra provides energy to the women, women's second chakra provides energy/joy & pleasure to the man in exchange. Where people physically bulge it shows where they have energy to give. (Around 11:30, she starts discussing this.)

Women's third chakra (chakra of worldly success) is small, men's third is protruding (I guess she is talking about men developing a paunch)...4th chakra/heart/breasts...where a woman gives more to man. This is the chakra of unconditional love.

[13:08] she explains energy exchanges between men and women...*worth watching*

Men's strengthened third chakra can inspire his woman, give her status, self-esteem, then she can give to the man from her heart center. Some men get blocked and don't give back to the woman's third chakra, but control her. This would not be a healthy relationship. He should empower her rather than suppress her at this point, and that would enable her to feel unconditional love for him.

Women can drain their sacral chakra by overusing her 3rd chakra, pulling too much from the sacral. However if their career is emotionally fulfilling, this chakra will have a healthy rotation, from the 2nd to 4th chakras. Some women renounce their sexuality to achieve great things, drawing up from the 2nd chakra to the 3rd, on purpose.

If the woman has an over-developed third chakra she will repel men, because + and + charges reject each other.

Sleeping around depletes the sacral chakra. A woman has enough energy for ONE male.

[30:20] To generate more sacral energy:

Mechanically, short quick fixes:

1) Be hydrated. Drink more water and try not to be cold, take baths. Eat moisturizing foods, raw fruits (ruled by 2nd chakra) and vegetables.

2) Squeeze the muscles (I think she means the Kegel muscle?)

Other long-term ways:

1) Creativity ~ If a woman's life is devoid of creativity, her feminine power disappears. Men are attracted to actresses, singers, dancers, women in the arts.

If you are in a right-brain, masculine world and don't have a creative outlet -> dance

2) Being present in the moment ~ passively engaged with the present, not always thinking, planning. Meditation.

3) Feel and balance the emotions. Women who live in their heads weaken their feminine power...[b]feeling emotions strengthens it.

Earthing helps...walk on the earth with barefeet. The earth's surface is full of negative ions (feminine energy)...sitting on the earth helps balance the emotions.

Emotional balance LIGHTS UP the sacral chakra. Anchor yourself in your body...cultivate self-respect this way. Self-pampering, gentle exercise, these things generate feminine energy.

4) God - spirituality- faith

If you have this, you stop fearing on the survival level. The fear falls away, because you believe God/Goddess will provide for you. A woman who has a strong spiritual practice will tap energy from above ~ she doesn't have to work on generating sacral energy as much ~ she's "given it by God."

Notes:

* "If you do not respect yourself, you cannot expect a man to do it."

* The second chakra's color is orange. Wear orange clothes to charge up that chakra.

* The second chakra is the chakra of joy and happiness...this draws men. A woman needs an inner joy.

* It's good if a woman can agree with a man about 60%...mostly respecting, sometimes clashing, showing that she is true to herself, and not boring him with monotonous agreement.

* The male/positive, female/negative polarity is physical law. Cannot be changed by political views of female rights, etc.

* A man bonds with a woman by giving... "it is psychologically proven"...a woman bonds by receiving. The sun is masculine and gives, gives, gives... that's his job. The moon is feminine and reflects back the sun.

* Love yourself the way you want to be loved and you will attract a man who will love you the same way. [/B]


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posted September 03, 2015 06:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To be honest though, IMO, the video, although very interesting, encourages the "old' roles of men and women and ancient stereotypes. IMO, Lilith is the opposite of this.

I agree that Lilith works with seduction, by bringing out the wild nature of men and women and their free sexuality, but this happens outside stereotypes. I expect a man with a strong Lilith in his chart to become someone like the male heroes in Meet the Parents, a nurse and a stay-at-home dad, rather than the other way around. Someone listening to their inner voice and their calling beyond gender stereotypes would be Lilith energy, and not the opposite.

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posted September 03, 2015 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anno_lucis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
whoa, the sabian for my lilith is on point. it conjuncts my chart ruler by a degree.

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posted September 03, 2015 07:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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To be honest though, IMO, the video, although very interesting, encourages the "old' roles of men and women and ancient stereotypes. IMO, Lilith is the opposite of this.

I agree that Lilith works with seduction, by bringing out the wild nature of men and women and their free sexuality, but this happens outside stereotypes. I expect a man with a strong Lilith in his chart to become someone like the male heroes in Meet the Parents, a nurse and a stay-at-home dad, rather than the other way around. Someone listening to their inner voice and their calling beyond gender stereotypes would be Lilith energy, and not the opposite.


Yes, I've seen this vídeo before. And although I agreed that women need to take time to be feminine and care for themselves, they don't necessarily need to be taken care of finantially as Lada says.

The gender stereotypes put me off a bit.
And LGBT people hou would the chakras interact?? :-D

Lilith is pure rebellion, that probably includes the shattering of gender roles.

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To be honest though, IMO, the video, although very interesting, encourages the "old' roles of men and women and ancient stereotypes. IMO, Lilith is the opposite of this.

agreed

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