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Topic: Lilith Empowerment
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venus2tinkerbell
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posted August 31, 2015 06:45 PM
  
What does this mean to you?Do you think Lilith expression always needs to be fierce and angry and sexual? What if she's getting what she wants, no one is holding her in a cage, she doesn't have to defend her actions, or apologize for her power? What would she have to be angry about? She'd just be powerful...and...happy? What's the difference between Mars and Lilith in your opinion, or go ahead and reference anything you've read. to be cont IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell
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posted August 31, 2015 06:50 PM
This thread is for men and women alike of course, because men know Lilith too (btw, I don't care what Lilith you use. It's the Lilith you feel. but feel free to share which you use if you want to). While the thread is for men and women, the following video made me think of how women can achieve Lilith Empowerment. Lada decided to name this vid How to Make Yourself Irresistible to Men or something like that. I've always been instinctively aware of the possible exchange between men and women, and I have practiced it. What I didn't know was how a woman could build and draw on her own feminine power (an actual technique). Learning that in this video makes me want to rename it Lilith Empowerment
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NYCdodger
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posted August 31, 2015 08:48 PM
BUMP!I have BOTH Mean and True Lilith conjunct my MC in Sagittarius by an exact degree! I believe she's played a large role in my life being that this is the closest conjunction I have to an angle. Plus its the MC angle, which is a dominant force in our lives IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted August 31, 2015 09:29 PM
Hi again V2T...stalking you as usual.I have Lilith in Aries trine Sag Venus and Leo ASC. Maybe this is why I sometimes mouth off like I do not give a **** what anyone thinks. Yeah. ETA: I would make that comment less coarse except I think that energy is consistent with Aries Lilith, so I thought, why not keep it on display. I'm not sure if that's all Aries Lilith does though...is swear and be a b*tch. I have some other thoughts but since it's tied in with Venus, it's more complicated than I want to delve into publicly. IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell
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posted August 31, 2015 09:29 PM
Thanks for the bump NYCdodger. I'm glad you seem to know you're Lilith because that's what I want to talk about; Lilith in real time, real life. What's it like having her or them 😊 on your MC? Do you feel she is guiding you toward something? Is she about freedom and empowerment in your mind, or anger, resentment and sex. On the MC I wonder if she brings unusual reactions from people...? I'll share my thoughts tomorrow. I've found myself stranded at my overnight job with a low battery phone and no cord for charging. Just as well. I have a book I've been reading for too long... thanks for sharing your thoughts. IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell
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posted August 31, 2015 09:43 PM
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Originally posted by Faith:
Hi again V2T...stalking you as usual.I have Lilith in Aries trine Sag Venus and Leo ASC. Maybe this is why I sometimes mouth off like I do not give **** what anyone thinks. Yeah.
having to edit because my thinking expanded since writing this. IP: Logged |
NYCdodger
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posted August 31, 2015 09:53 PM
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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
Thanks for the bump NYCdodger. I'm glad you seem to know you're Lilith because that's what I want to talk about; Lilith in real time, real life. What's it like having her or them 😊 on your MC? Do you feel she is guiding you toward something? Is she about freedom and empowerment in your mind, or anger, resentment and sex. On the MC I wonder if she brings unusual reactions from people...? I'll share my thoughts tomorrow. I've found myself stranded at my overnight job with a low battery phone and no cord for charging. Just as well. I have a book I've been reading for too long... thanks for sharing your thoughts.
The answer is yes to all of your questions. My MC is 0 degree Sag. My True Lilith is also 0 degree Sag while my Mean Lilith is 29 degree Scorp. Ive had to deal with a lot from a lot of people. Plus I have a 12th house Stellium. I can create just as much as i can destroy, sometimes i hesitate, sometimes i move.. IP: Logged |
12muddy
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posted August 31, 2015 10:08 PM
I have lilith conjunct mercury, trine moon.Compared to other influences in my chart, Lilith doesn't seem to be a big player. But she lurks in the depth of my consciousness. Colours my mind. Comes out in my words. I use it to my advantage, there are some who're attracted to this wild side, who find guilty pleasure in letting themselves be drawn in and be inspired. Feed the hungry beast, I know you want to. About the video. It's interesting. I am more than capable of being the provider. One thing she mentions is doing something that you like, and/or finding creative outlets. It's true for me. I enjoy the things I do, and they more or less belong to the artistic/creative range. Power/satisfaction/emotional fulfillment comes from being my own person. People who are attracted to me, they look at me and think (sometimes ask me outright): "What does she want, what can I give her?". My husband mentions that he always feels the desire to give me things that I don't know that I want. IP: Logged |
Aquarian Moon
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posted August 31, 2015 10:09 PM
It means living and loving on MY terms, and not the puritanical ideals I was raised with. I'm all about my "P" power and refuse to allow someone to interfere in the way I live my life. It's about realizing that women have power and pull. Men are powerful in their way, we are powerful in our own way.My bml is conjunct my Venus-Uranus conjunction and it also sextiles my Moon and Midheaven. IP: Logged |
mollywu
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From: Chengdu, China
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posted September 01, 2015 04:48 AM
I have Lillith conjunct Sun and Venus under 1 degree in 1st house, conjunct Asc and NN in 3 degrees, however it's powerless to me.IP: Logged |
PlutonicGemini94
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posted September 01, 2015 05:41 AM
I have a Lilith, MC, & Mars conjunction in Taurus lol, I'm stil not completely sure how this has/is going to play out tho 🙈------------------
May 26, 94'
5* Gemini Sun, 10th H
25* Sag Moon, 5th H
26* Gem Mercury, 11th H
5* Cancer Venus, 11th H
2* Taurus Mars, 9th conj MC
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3l3n
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posted September 01, 2015 05:58 AM
I think Lilith is quite strong in my chart. She is the only placement I have in Leo, so it's still quite tough handling and putting her in to use correctly.She forms a Kite from my 2nd house trining MC and Neptune H6, sextiles Pluto on IC. Also makes a Rectangle with MC, Venus H8 and Pluto IC. I guess the thing that confuses me with her and holds me back is the opposition to Venus. square Uranus Still learning.. 
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LeeLoo2014
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posted September 01, 2015 06:21 AM
I have angular Lilith, in Aqua 1st, making a tight cross with Moon in Leo and MC in Scorpio....involved with Venus + Mars now  In relation to your thread, yes, I see it as becoming aware of your feminine/personal power. Lilith is the symbol of personal power and not accepting to be ruled or caged by a "higher power", Lilith has no "god" or "master", she is seeking the highly individualized power coming from inside and what makes her unique. Her journey starts with an act of rebellion. For me, when it comes to power of seduction or feminine energy, it happened mostly based on the reaction the others (men) had to me, it's as if the others teach you to acknowledge it, at least in my case, my male friends and lovers helped me get in touch with my Lilith. It's a prominent theme in my relationships (Moon is DSC ruler). It also makes me a rebel to be honest, with unconventional behavior or views in relationships and other things, enjoying wild nature and wild things, basically a hippie at heart. It connects to my Uranus peregrine in the 9th. And empowering people is a major theme for me (especially those who need to catch up with social power, women, and everyone looking to get in touch with their personal power). Seduction is an important value for me (the "good" seduction, empowering people and relationships, creating mutuality, exploring the goddess in women and the god in men and bringing it into tangible form in the every day). (it resonates strongly with my Venus on 8th cusp and the other 8th placements). And I work with Lilith energy in what I do, both in psychology and art (square MC/Vesta in Scorpio). ------------------
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NYCdodger
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posted September 01, 2015 08:10 AM
I think lilith plays a very dominate role in my life being that both mean and true has an exact conjunction to my angleIP: Logged |
Aunt Anomalia
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posted September 01, 2015 09:14 AM
Who knows, maybe Lilith (h13) contributes to my demonic personality It's in the 4th conjunct IC by 4 deg, square ASC and trine Jupiter the IC ruler. It's in detriment and conjunct Kaali on top of that so don't blame me :PIf feminine power means to you being desirable to men then I'll pass...How come wanting to appeal to others makes one powerful in the first place?
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Ami Anne
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posted September 01, 2015 09:28 AM
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
I think lilith plays a very dominate role in my life being that both mean and true has an exact conjunction to my angle
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NYCdodger
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posted September 01, 2015 09:37 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Here is your thead, NYC
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Faith
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From: Bella's Hair Salon
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posted September 01, 2015 07:13 PM
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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
Do you believe Lilith can have a positive role in the chart?
Of course. There's a time for everything. quote:
Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
Very briefly, I'm thinking all her anger comes from another time, when there was hardly anywhere in the world where women enjoyed a life free of oppression.
Vestigial cavewoman instincts. I have no idea. quote:
Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
What I there's nothing to be angry about? What if she can create and use her own energy and power, without relying on an agreeable, accepting, etc partner?
Hmm, but there's always something to be angry about. Always injustice. quote:
Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
And the world will leave her to herself to do as she pleases? What if "Adam" has no demands, or even no involvement, what then?
Not sure, but I think Lilith can be an ingredient in courage, sticking up for one's beliefs, even enacting hysteria or rage in a warrior-like way, as in..."NOT TAKING THIS CR*P ANYMORE. KILL ME IF YOU HAVE TO." We all need that energy, that up-against-the-wall-but-preserving-our-spirit energy. quote:
Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
Did you watch the video. What do you think? Like I was telling NYCdodger, I'm stranded, but ill be back to comment "on the morrow"
I clicked on the video, saw the title, and clicked out. Very sorry but it just didn't catch my interest...I'm not single.  My problem, when I was single, was not that I could NOT attract men. It was that I attracted them, but knew I couldn't keep them...I knew full well the difference between the illusions I cast, and the reality I lived underneath. Those were hard times. :-/ IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted September 01, 2015 09:03 PM
I just realized that everything I said is colored by my personal understanding of Lilith ~ I see it through the lens of my Lilith in Aries. Other Liliths will be differently motivated and empowered. IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell
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posted September 01, 2015 09:14 PM
No. You have to watch the video. To you and Auntie, the video is not about attracting men or being irresistible. Attraction happens to be a result of growth and empowerment. People are attracted to something deeper than seduction, and that attraction isn't the point anyway. Watch it. See if you can fill in my blanks like my soulleogempisces sister can.IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell
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posted September 01, 2015 09:16 PM
The rest of you answers, Thank you, Faith. Actually you changed my thinking with one statement and made me think you know exactly what's going on in my life right now, and are sharing the lessons you see for me....we'll get back to that.IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted September 01, 2015 09:23 PM
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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
No. You have to watch the video.
 Okayyyyyyy IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell
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posted September 01, 2015 09:26 PM
Everybody, thank you. I'm talking to the right group of people. I'm not just throwing this idea around in my head. Understanding what I'm calling Lilith Empowerment is a large part of my material and spiritual growth. There's a particular transit that makes it very obvious. I'm gonna try and share with you, and I also have specific questions for some of you. Thanks so far for your responses. IP: Logged |
socialgraffiti
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posted September 01, 2015 09:31 PM
Interesting. I have my Lilith in Virgo conjunct my IC by one degree, square Mars/Venus and trine Neptune.I resonate very much with Lilith, perhaps because I have relatively few aspects to my angles and also because the IC is such a sensitive and personal angle. I've heard Lilith described as a mix of Pluto and Uranus- blending the taboo and the dark with rebellion and unconventionality. Mystic Medusa published a pdf on BML Lilith, appropriately titled, "B*tchcraft" 😅 It's very insightful about the sign and house placements. I feel like there is always a way of channeling the Lilith archetype to 'fight', since feminine principles are always taken advantage of more often than not- like intuition, sensitivity, and understanding. Moreover, I don't think Lilith is something that you CAN repress- at least not healthily. Her energy is very Martian, or Yang in a way. If you don't use it to your needs, it uses you. IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell
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posted September 01, 2015 09:44 PM
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Originally posted by Faith:
Okayyyyyyy
whatever I wrote here was nuts IP: Logged |
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