posted October 08, 2015 05:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Wild Horses:
I fear talking about my fears.

It feels like talking about them, actually voicing them, gives them power or makes them more real. I don't even like to think about them at all, but that only applies to fears that I have no control over and can't prevent in any way.

If it's a fear that I can actually do something to actively prevent, them I go into full on "face your fears" mode and confront it head on. So, it's one of those two methods for me.

In a nutshell, my biggest fear is fear.

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posted October 08, 2015 05:23 PM            

Dying in my sleep

posted October 08, 2015 07:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
I totally agree! Everyone's biggest fear should be fearing anything!

It's the fear inspiring thought that turns into an emotion and that emotion manifests the thought when its been focused on, allowed to grow and become strong, so don't let the thought get into your head!! Lol

Try not to fear anything, if you must identify your fears, don't let yourself emotionally invest in that fear.
Your heart is a manifestation machine, don't allow yourself to feel your fears!
I know easier said than done.
But it's the thought that creates the seed to manifest that thought and then it's the emotions that fuel that thought into a living thing in the universe, it's all done through your head and heart.
If you must ponder on your fears keep it in your head, don't let yourself feel the fear.
After you have a fearful thought and catch it you can go back and say out-loud, that will never happen I am always safe and happy! Then let yourself feel happy knowing your always safe and protected by the universe. That helps negate the negative energy you put out through that negative thought and fear you felt.

I've always gotten upset at my kids for saying negative things...I'm like, "Why?? You want to manifest that? Don't say things that you don't want to happen!!" They laugh about it now...
They catch me when I mess up and say some negative possibilities to.....nobody in our house is allowed to express negative possibilities or irrational fears without everyone else saying, "Now you have to say something nice negate that and manifest happy things"!
We always always have at least 3 ppl overwriting any 1 negative thing said around here!! Lol It's become a fun game around our house!

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posted October 08, 2015 07:36 PM            

Though in all seriousness, can't say that's my experiences. When I was put in that mental ward, the school shrink explained it in a way that I had a positive attitude about it, I even thought of it like a vacation resort. But that place was more evil than you'd want to imagine.

A man talked me into getting into his car when I was 15. I was convinced that he was a sympathetic family man wanting to help a girl out (as plenty will in a small town I spent years in) and was shocked when he tried to rape me. A positive attitude made me stupid and vulnerable, not protected. (Of course the weakness in the theory of "we manifest what we think" is that it doesn't factor in what OTHERS are thinking.)

In contrast, having been so battered and abused, when I ran away a second time as my school was going to force me back into that mental hospital, I was braced for terrible risks, was certain I'd have to perform sex favors on the way (and just hope I wasn't raped) and yet it turned out to be one of the best experiences in my life. The first man to give me a ride was someone I wished I could've had as a father as he asked me for advice on how to deal with his college age daughter and talked to me about the world in a no-BS way which was very refreshing...as was his treating me with respect and dignity and not demanding sex even though he was well aware that carrying me across state lines as he did was a federal offense (in addition to the insurance that covered his 18-wheeler not liking it). And in less than 5 minutes of after he dropped me off as far as he could take me I was already hooked up with some Deadheads going to California, and not LA as I was planning but way up north which was so much better, and would (eventually) make my life better (psycho rapist guy not withstanding).

And I could go on. I understand it's very comforting to believe we have almost total control over what happens to us but having gone to a PTSD group and also self-defense courses for women have validated my own experiences that being aware of the dangers and preparing for them is so much more effective than "not thinking about it." And therefore I'd warn people away from such reckless behavior so that they don't end up having similar experiences.

OTOH, there is something to be said about self-fulfilling prophecies, and some people seem determined to make their fears a reality (though they don't seem consciously aware of their doing so even if it's obvious to everyone around them). Then there are those sad souls who are so fearful and negative that they become paralyzed, and lose the good in life by focusing on the bad, and dreading the next storm before it has even arrived. And there's all kinds of ways to pick up "bad energy" that leads to horrible synchronicity, and can also create "positive synchronicity." But it's more complicated then "don't think of the devil or he will appear."

posted October 08, 2015 07:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Wild Horses:

I have to say, THAT is one of my biggies. Not general drowning, because I can swim like a fish, but, specifically, I have an utter dread of driving over bridges that pass over water.

I will drive out of my way if time allows to avoid going over a long highway or bridge that goes over water. I'm always worried about my car going over the edge and that whole "trapped underwater in a car" thing happening. I've even done safety drills and got safety equipment in my car in case it ever does, but I always worry I'll panic in the moment if it ever really happened and drown. I hate even thinking about it.

I do wonder what might indicate that fear astrologically.

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posted October 08, 2015 07:56 PM            

This may sound crazy to some.. But..

One thing I really fear is being forcefully experimented on. Some people may have seen me mention this next part before, but.. Sometimes, I feel like in some type of existence or other incarnation, this exact thing may have happened to me. Honestly, there is still a lot of confusion about my past incarnations (sometimes I almost feel as if I have two souls in my body, as some of what I "feel" strongly contradicts some of the other things I feel.. It's really confusing for me.. Sometimes I even feel that somehow I've already went through this incarnation, but have somehow forced myself back into this timeline to fix or stop something I messed up with the first time) but.. If anyone has seen V for Vendetta.. That part where they are forcefully injecting those people with all that stuff.. It is hauntingly familiar to me. There is a part of me that so strongly feels that I've been in a position where I've been stripped of all my rights and humanity.. I think that is part of why I have such a strong desire to let people express their free will to its fullest extent, as long as they aren't hurting another person in the process. (Or, messing with another person's free will..).. I think that is part of also why I fear standing up for myself so much in this lifetime.. In fear that in doing so, I will be forced against my will. Kind of counterintuitive, really, considering not standing up for yourself can just as easily bring about the same outcomes.

Lol.. This probably all sounds crazy.. Maybe it is. But, I guess that is just where I am at this point in time.

I used to be fearful of losing all boundaries.. Of losing definition.. Or identity.. But, now a part of me almost finds a certain comfort in those thoughts. I used to fear the idea that the soul could possibly have nothing to do with most of our conscious mind.. That death would bring a complete dissolution of what we call the "mind" because the soul goes beyond it.. But, once again, nowadays that almost brings me comfort. I think sometimes we get caught into thinking that our thoughts are our soul.. Or, come from our soul. However, I no longer see things that way..

I've had so many extremely vivid, and extremely realistic feeling dreams of death.. Where for a very short time I felt pure nothingness. No thoughts.. No body.. No physical sensation.. And, basically no emotion. Everything became a complete void, except for this feeling of presence. There was a part of me that used to be afraid of that feeling.. But, I think there is a certain clarity in that experience. I guess that is where my 8th house Sun feels a certain amount of comfort..

(Of course, not to say that death is like that.. But.. Sometimes I feel there is a part of me that "remembers" what death is like. I would go much further in depth, but, I feel I've already strayed way too far away from the original subject of this thread.. Lol. )

Betrayal is somewhat of a fear, I guess. Or, rather, deceptive betrayal. And, once again, that kind of goes back to some of what I believe I had experienced in a different incarnation.

I guess "end of the world" scenarios kind of bother me, because of some really intense dreams I had when I was about 11.. To put it simple, my dreams were very similar to what happens in the movie 'Melancholia'

Something I think would suck would be being out into a situation in which, for example, if a person was in a desolate area, or awhile away from civilization, and ending up getting injured and slowly bleeding out.. There would be a really strong sense of helplessness.

posted October 08, 2015 07:59 PM            

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Originally posted by aquagembaby:
That's interesting. A fear of drowning or places of water...hmm do you have an afflicted Neptune? Neptune rules water if I remember. I'm trying to think which house would rule bridges over water..But I think if you have Neptune in 8th or Pisces ruling 8th, that COULD mean fear of death by waters... not sure

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For me, I don't really have a fear of passing over water, being on boats, etc. I'm fine. As I sat here and thought about it. I mean it's physical, obviously and the pain of water in the lungs I don't want to imagine. (I've had asthma in my youth with only two severe incidents)
What scares me is the helplessness combined with isolation. The feeling of being alone, facing this horrific event. It's not so much death that I fear, but the feeling of feeling separated from, earth in a way. I can't explain it. That darkness.

At first I thought it might be low water in my chart or something along those lines.
Perhaps it's my 12th?
I value my isolation but perhaps because it's on my terms with an option to come out of hiding. If you drown, there's no option and you're on your own whether you are ready or not.
Virgo is also my 12th. I like to stay grounded.

posted October 08, 2015 08:21 PM            

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Originally posted by ikja:
The death of my parents

Dying in my sleep

Mould on food!

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Hey, dying in your sleep is the best way to go! If anyone is going to go anyway

posted October 08, 2015 08:56 PM            

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Originally posted by aquagembaby:
That's interesting. A fear of drowning or places of water...hmm do you have an afflicted Neptune? Neptune rules water if I remember. I'm trying to think which house would rule bridges over water..But I think if you have Neptune in 8th or Pisces ruling 8th, that COULD mean fear of death by waters... not sure

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The strange part is that I love being near water, like near the ocean, etc. It's just the thought of being trapped underwater that gives me the heebie jeebies. Whenever I watch movies like Poseidon or Titanic where the people are trapped underwater it chills me to the bone. I guess that's why the whole idea of my car going off a bridge into water and trapping me is so dreadful. The thought of my car going off an overpass and smashing to bits on land doesn't terrify me the same way. So, there's something specific about the idea of being trapped underwater that gets to me the most.

-Neptune is my singleton planet. It's my only planet in fire.
-I've also got Sun, Venus, Mars, and Mercury in my 12th house, and the asteroid Poseidon is conj. my Moon 0°.
-the ruler of my 12th is in my 12th, so I dunno, maybe it feels "trapped" there? Just batting around ideas.

posted October 08, 2015 09:36 PM            

Totally unrelated to my above statement, but I feel Pisces in the 8th/Neptune like if were to have a water-influenced death; it would feel like dying whilst asleep. On the other hand, a death from height...

posted October 09, 2015 12:29 AM            

-- fear of being unlovable. Venus/Saturn conjunction in 9th

-- fear of not doing anything significant with my life. Sun and chart ruler Mercury in 10th

posted October 09, 2015 01:35 AM            

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^^ YES! Ok, I don't mind a mirror when there is a certain amount of light on it.. But.. There is just something about seeing a room with a mirror where the light hits it just the right way.. It always screws me up. I mean.. I'm not saying a really tiny amount of light.. It has to be JUST right.. But, when it is, there is something about mirrors that are just creepy. Lmao

Kinda reminds me of a dream I had a few years back.. It was just a really oddly eerie dream where I remember seeing the mirror in an otherwise mostly dark room.. And, the faucet randomly turning on, on its own. xD

But.. Mirrors don't freak me out too much. They do sometimes.

Hmm.. I'll make a proper response to the actual question in a bit

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Whoa that is a creepy dream! It gave me chills just reading about it Lol

posted October 09, 2015 01:49 AM            

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Wherever you go, there you are.

posted October 09, 2015 02:14 AM            

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Originally posted by frankie2912:

Scorpions
Deep Water
Heights (except for being in an airplane)
Ghosts/Spirits/Poltergeists
Axe Murderers
Any type of murderer, really
Home invasion
Big, heavy machinery
Losing my loved ones
Blacking out while driving
Things with crazy evil eyes that move really quickly
Crabs on the beach
Mentally insane people from scary movies
Guns

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xD xD... I like the way you worded and formatted the whole thing.. But, the part in bold made me giggle a bit.

The two ones that would bother me most out of all of these would be murderers and home invasions though. Blacking out while driving would also be scary..

That brings up another thought..

posted October 09, 2015 09:45 AM            

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Originally posted by Sylven:
Gabby that sounds great!! I don't know if it's scary, if it's really haunted it might. But when you shield yourself and being positive nothing much can happen. I went to 3 tours over here, all together on an abandoned site. It was so much fun!! All we did was laugh and had fun and what they did was so creative! But it wasn't haunted, they just made stories and all people were dressed up and acting. It was FUN!!

I think the drowning itself is peaceful. At least they say is. It's everything that happens beforehand that's fearful. I don't think I will mind to be cut off and be alone as I know I am never ever alone really. I am not sure if I still have the fear of boats though (Nep in 3rd). Like I said, it was all mindf*ck and I f*cked it back with humor! It helped. We can all heal ourselves here.
There is two sides of me. One can be scared all of a sudden and the other is fearless and I think, if it must be it must be, it is what it is. Hurray for eternity and life is all a big game let's play. It's the attachment we have to our reactions and fears. If you let go of that attachment you will see you create your own reality.

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Ya, protecting yourself makes things like haunted houses kind of boring because nothing can manifest or creep you out.
I used to be terrified of certain places that as a child I know had a very scary spirit attached to it. They used to mess with me. I went back as an adult, the first time before I'd learned to defend myself and it was still there able to get to me. After I learned to protect myself and keep negative energies away from me I went back again with my defense up...and felt nothing. Boo!! Lol
I used to attract spirits trying to connect with others through me, now I don't. I like it, I guess...it used to scare me when I had no control over it, their energy is so cold and heavy and ya, kind of creepy! Lol
I wanted to stop it but now it doesn't happen at all, sometimes I miss it!