posted October 18, 2015 08:50 AM            

Gem MC is usually consider a very good MC placement for writers, musicians and others whose line of work involve communicating. It's not really associated with lying.

Lying is a very complex action. People have varied motivations as to why they lie and lying itself is varied, from gentle social politeness to deep sociopathy. It's REALLY bad astrology to think you can sum up someone's inclination to lie by one isolated aspect. Nevermind the annoyance that the "go-to" placements people assume indicate lying are often on the Gem-Sag axis. That axis is as complex as any other axis in the zodiac. It's mutable qualities are not easy to grasp for many people, so they are often oversimplified and that leads to misunderstanding and negative stereotypes that do not help.

posted October 18, 2015 10:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Lunar Pisces: I have MC in Gem and I know a lot of people with this placement. People with Ge MC often have Virgo rising, one of the more common rising signs, so it's a very common placement.

Gem MC is usually consider a very good MC placement for writers, musicians and others whose line of work involve communicating. It's not really associated with lying.
Aye aye! I am not a liar, my work involves a lot of communication

Lying is a very complex action. People have varied motivations as to why they lie and lying itself is varied, from gentle social politeness to deep sociopathy. It's REALLY bad astrology to think you can sum up someone's inclination to lie by one isolated aspect. Nevermind the annoyance that the "go-to" placements people assume indicate lying are often on the Gem-Sag axis. That axis is as complex as any other axis in the zodiac. It's mutable qualities are not easy to grasp for many people, so they are often oversimplified and that leads to misunderstanding and negative stereotypes that do not help.

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Nicely said.

posted October 18, 2015 11:14 AM            

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Originally posted by Lunar Pisces:
I have MC in Gem and I know a lot of people with this placement. People with Ge MC often have Virgo rising, one of the more common rising signs, so it's a very common placement.

Gem MC is usually consider a very good MC placement for writers, musicians and others whose line of work involve communicating. It's not really associated with lying.

Lying is a very complex action. People have varied motivations as to why they lie and lying itself is varied, from gentle social politeness to deep sociopathy. It's REALLY bad astrology to think you can sum up someone's inclination to lie by one isolated aspect. Nevermind the annoyance that the "go-to" placements people assume indicate lying are often on the Gem-Sag axis. That axis is as complex as any other axis in the zodiac. It's mutable qualities are not easy to grasp for many people, so they are often oversimplified and that leads to misunderstanding and negative stereotypes that do not help.

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And I understand that,but I was only looking for indications that MAY show capacity for it,I'm not falsely accusing anything.

The reason why I said Mars in pisces is because they have the CAPACITY to be good liars,not that they are.and Gemini MC skills In a career would involve using words often,so They can use that as an advantage for lying,not that they are gonna do it,only if they are on their wrong minds.Ive met Gemini MC people like myself and they can be really good at getting in and out of situations.

posted October 18, 2015 01:01 PM            

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Originally posted by theunknown:
All neptunians are slippery

Air signs, and Sag are too. Not to say these folks are liars but it's easier for them to change their words

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That's interesting,I have a Mercury in Aquarius conjunction to neptune,and square jupiter,also a Mars in pisces.

posted October 18, 2015 01:56 PM            

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Originally posted by HoodBlaze:
Teasel that's interesting if you are the polar opposite. Sometimes it's the case that these things can go either way to the extreme.

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Yeah, I'm not a good liar, and the few times I've tried, I haven't liked it, at all. I admitted to friends that I felt awful, and had trouble sleeping afterwards. I'm big on integrity, and not messing with people, but that hasn't stopped a few from trying to say that I'm the opposite.

posted October 18, 2015 03:17 PM            

Double-faces, libra sun/mars.

Manipulators, every signs has different kind of way to manipulate. But probably the best manipulator based on element, I vote for water element.

posted October 18, 2015 03:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Mars/Pluto Emperor:

That's interesting,I have a Mercury in Aquarius conjunction to neptune,and square jupiter,also a Mars in pisces.

I can say I am very sneaky with my things and objectives ^^

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Didn't you say you're only fifteen? You haven't really grown up yet, so you could be totally different in a decade (or less).

posted October 18, 2015 04:03 PM            

1st-Drug addict, liar, massive cheater(got a 1-night stand pregnant while his wife was pregnant) commited suicide
He had-saggy Neptune, pisces Mars, gemini Venus t-square 0-3 degree

2nd-Drug addict, stole money and drugs, committed suicide
He had-pisces Mars exact on SN

posted October 18, 2015 04:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Personal experience the worst liar ive ever known...

1st-Drug addict, liar, massive cheater(got a 1-night stand pregnant while his wife was pregnant) commited suicide
He had-saggy Neptune, pisces Mars, gemini Venus t-square 0-3 degree

2nd-Drug addict, stole money and drugs, committed suicide
He had-pisces Mars exact on SN

3rd-Pretends to be angelic, has been accused multiple times of forcefully getting sex, stalks women and cheats constantly...scary guy
He has-leo Mars square scorp Sun/Uranus

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Gabby,that always made me wonder about the drug addict part,I'm actually quite contained and clean.i never see myself doing drugs in the future (probs my Virgo AS and Capricorn Sun talking,Plus the Mars sextile Saturn xD) but I always thought of running my very own nightclub when I'm older,it always had this "fun yet classy" feel,my career goals are to pursue to run my very own business!

posted October 18, 2015 04:41 PM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
I vote mercury/neptune for the aspect of easily slippery.

Double-faces, libra sun/mars.

Manipulators, every signs has different kind of way to manipulate. But probably the best manipulator based on element, I vote for water element.

Edited: I don't know lying, every signs has tendency to lie.

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posted October 18, 2015 05:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Mars/Pluto Emperor:
Gabby,that always made me wonder about the drug addict part,I'm actually quite contained and clean.i never see myself doing drugs in the future (probs my Virgo AS and Capricorn Sun talking,Plus the Mars sextile Saturn xD) but I always thought of running my very own nightclub when I'm older,it always had this "fun yet classy" feel,my career goals are to pursue to run my very own business!

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posted October 18, 2015 05:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Mars sextile Saturn will help keep you in control with drugs, but still be careful!

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posted October 18, 2015 05:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Mars/Pluto Emperor:
Yes i will Thank you! By far i am very controlled when it comes to stuff like that. I have an old friend with a Mars in leo who has his mars opposite neptune,and he was very...lost in terms of a bright future compared to me.

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posted October 18, 2015 10:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Mars/Pluto Emperor:
I don't know much about Libras,but I do know Gemini influences tend to be very quick,intelligent people,but they can be clever and talk themselves in and out of situations,really knows how to plan things with logic.

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Right. It's my sister, who has Libra sun, told me that Libra influences actually who really know how to be double-faces but not like having multi-personality like Gemini. It's a thin difference, that's why actually Gemini and Libra relationship will have a long lasting and less fight because Gemini can adapt and Libra know how to be diplomatic. You can see the difference when each sign in anger, Gemini will loose the control won't care if people will hate them because of it, Libra still can manage it very well because they love peace and harmony, if people hate them it's a chaos and they don't like chaotic.

posted October 18, 2015 10:41 PM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
Right. It's my sister, who has Libra sun, told me that Libra influences actually who really know how to be double-faces but not like having multi-personality like Gemini. It's a thin difference, that's why actually Gemini and Libra relationship will have a long lasting and less fight because Gemini can adapt and Libra know how to be diplomatic. You can see the difference when each sign in anger, Gemini will loose the control, Libra still can manage it very well.

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Oh i see! My younger brother has a Libra AS and Gemini Mars,and he is very good with words,but since I have air/mercury dominant too,I can see through his bs xD

posted October 18, 2015 10:43 PM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
Right. It's my sister, who has Libra sun, told me that Libra influences actually who really know how to be double-faces but not like having multi-personality like Gemini. It's a thin difference, that's why actually Gemini and Libra relationship will have a long lasting and less fight because Gemini can adapt and Libra know how to be diplomatic. You can see the difference when each sign in anger, Gemini will loose the control won't care if people will hate them because of it, Libra still can manage it very well because they love peace and harmony, if people hate them it's a chaos and they don't like chaotic

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It's a matter of perspective. Libras can come off as two-faced because they see two sides (or more) of an issue. This is incomprehensible to many people all by itself. And to make it "worse," Libra won't automatically take a side, generally speaking, they'll want to hear both or all sides, and this also distresses people as they see it as disloyal, while a Libra sees it as being fair. While I can understand this being seen as two-faced, it's not the same thing as lying and manipulating, though it may seem so if a person thought Libra was a friend who turned on them in the interest in being fair. That is, you think Libra is your friend and therefore will automatically take your side and adopt your enemies as her own, and when Libra doesn't, then that's seen as betrayal and false friendship, but that's not how Libra sees it, and never intended to make you think otherwise.

The one danger that can make Libra truly two-faced (speaking strictly of Libra energy) is that the desire for harmony can become so strong that they bend to the whims of whoever they happen to be with at the time. But Libra is a cardinal sign (think Judge Judy or Eleanor Roosevelt or even Gandhi) so this isn't natural for them, however, and even women who are raised to be two-faced seem to be less so when of this sign (to me).

When Libra goes bad, it usually manifests in either temperamental fits (as their scales teeter crazily so that they come off as manic-depressive or having a personality disorder, though this can cause them to flake out, but they don't mean to) or snobbishness (especially as they become control freaks of who can be around them so that their scales stay balanced).

posted October 18, 2015 11:33 PM            

But then she's a Cancer sun (which is cardinal like Libra, and part of what urged her to stand up for what's right despite that it risked her popularity is because doing so also stood up for family) with Leo mercury, and her Libra is 2H which makes her more possessive (and oh, how she explodes if anyone trespasses on what she considers hers, though she usually remains calm even when angry).