posted October 28, 2015 09:51 AM            

Back in high school, me and some other kids took up a game of staring at the back of the necks of each other. It was uncanny how we could feel each other staring...but people we didn't know typically didn't feel it in the startling way we did each other. In retrospect, my guess is that we were so bonded/attuned to each other that we got that sensitive...with the implications we were developing something of a prototypical hive mind of some sort, but as we were teenagers who bonded against a dangerous world, perhaps that's too be expected, when we needed the Tribe.

posted October 28, 2015 09:56 AM            

Not to sound arrogant but whenever I walk in a store or room or whatever it is super easy for me to get their attention. I'm average looking so I just assume it's something to do with how strong my energy is and being a triple Aries with Moon / Pluto and Mars / Pluto I imagine that's pretty strong. Sometimes it's embarrassing.

posted October 28, 2015 10:24 AM            

That doesn't stop the women from staring, however. Though my teen girl that draws the male stares did help me understand why so many women were glaring at me once...

posted October 28, 2015 10:40 AM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I agree with Pixie somewhat in that people stare, however...

Not to sound arrogant but whenever I walk in a store or room or whatever it is super easy for me to get their attention. I'm average looking so I just assume it's something to do with how strong my energy is and being a triple Aries with Moon / Pluto and Mars / Pluto I imagine that's pretty strong. Sometimes it's embarrassing.

Also old men stare at women, it's mandatory to being an old man. :P I was sitting in the parking lot at work and noticed a petite woman walking into the grocery store, and saw the man parked adjacent to me (with his sunglasses on - always the most telling) watch her for a good 30 seconds, maybe longer. She wasn't dressed sexy or anything. Guys are just visual beings I suppose.

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posted October 28, 2015 10:55 AM            

I can definitely say yes, but i don't really notice that much when I'm alone. Its usually when I'm with other people they would tell me that I'm getting looks from others.

posted October 28, 2015 11:15 AM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
What are "old" men?
Just for my own amusement.

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posted October 28, 2015 11:16 AM            

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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
What are you talking about, you are so pretty!!!!

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posted October 28, 2015 11:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Sikanda:
Yes, I've felt that. I know what you are talking about. I have a loose Venus-Pluto conjunction and Mars Quintile Pluto. Also Pluto and venus are opposite my ascendant (so conjunct my descendant).

I used to feel intimidated, but now I guess I've just overgrown it. I even enjoy it when I realise that a man of my particular liking has just looked at me lol. Besides sometimes I stare as well. I've always done it, been very observant, when I saw something or someone that caught my attention I'd stare to pick up all the details.
My advice: put your sunglasses on and you can safely catch a glympse of whatever caught your attention without disturbing anyone.

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Pluto and Mars squares my ASC, and Venus quincunxes my ASC and I agree with this as well. Its different being that I'm a man though. But I would look at people directly and they would kinda avoid eye-contact. But as soon as I look away they would look back lol

Also women never tell me they are attracted to me upfront. They will do it subtly. Last week I met a woman and she tried to subliminally give me her number. But she was trying to do it in a way that wouldn't make her appear desperate. She told me that I appeared "unavailable" but she still wanted to talk to me. I get the " you look unavailable" comment a lot. So every time i would find out someone is attracted to me, it would be in a subtle way, or they would confess it to me in private. I would be oblivious to it until then...

posted October 28, 2015 11:21 AM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Men that could be my grandpa? Men with white hair, or graying hair, thin wire glasses and weathered faces and hands. And they love their business-cas polos and Timex wrist watches.

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posted October 28, 2015 11:23 AM            

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Originally posted by Sylven:
But RoseLily. I saw your picture, you are beautiful!

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Originally posted by DopGang:
What are "old" men?
Just for my own amusement.

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posted October 28, 2015 11:29 AM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
I know but there's "older" and "old" both being thrown around.
Doesn't matter.

Well I guess I'll move on. Seems like a defensive crowd in here.

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posted October 28, 2015 11:31 AM            

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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
lol you feel like they're calling you old bro?

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posted October 28, 2015 12:17 PM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
My problem isn't whether or not I'm considered "old" or "too old", etc. It doesn't matter for many many reasons which I feel no need to get into.
What I don't like is this undercurrent that I'm being treated with disrespect because I'm "older". Like, "he's one! That pervy bast*rd!"
Hey, I'm just on an internet forum about astrology. I'm not on the street staring at you.
It's not fair and it's not right.
I'm not here to fight but that's what's in the pipeline so that's my clue to find the exit.
All because I half-jokingly asked for clarity. It's like there's a victim mentality in here and that's never good.

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I used the term "older" sloppily. Really, it's guys of all ages, though I find it notable that guys my age and older are gonna stare at teen girls, but then they do a lot.

Not EVERY one, of course. Not necessarily you. But a lot. Of all ages. (ETA: I don't even consider most of it offensive or worrisome, btw. It depends on HOW they do it.)

posted October 28, 2015 12:40 PM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
My problem isn't whether or not I'm considered "old" or "too old", etc. It doesn't matter for many many reasons which I feel no need to get into.
What I don't like is this undercurrent that I'm being treated with disrespect because I'm "older". Like, "he's one! That pervy bast*rd!"
Hey, I'm just on an internet forum about astrology. I'm not on the street staring at you.
It's not fair and it's not right.
I'm not here to fight but that's what's in the pipeline so that's my clue to find the exit.
All because I half-jokingly asked for clarity. It's like there's a victim mentality in here and that's never good.

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DopGang, I truly don't think anyone meant to make you feel insulted. I think they were just sounding off about their various experiences of being overtly stared at by others.

The old/older man thing is hilariously ironic in my case, because I have the exact opposite problem. I keep getting stared at by guys that are way younger than me, and I have to make sure to absolutely avoid any and all eye contact with them so that I don't feel like a perv.

I turned 43 this year, and I'm a Gem Sun and Gem Venus, and I've always looked years younger than my age. Most people assume I'm 30 or early 30's at the most. They're always shocked to find out I'm in my 40's already. My Gem Sun and Venus help at keeping me a little younger looking, and my Virgo Moon drives me to take care of myself so that I look my best.

What that causes, though, is stare downs and look-me-up-and-down glances from guys who are in their 20's and sometimes even late teens. Maybe they think I'd be a cougar or something, but I'm just thinking, "Whooooaaa, I'm old enough to be your Mom." Don't get me wrong, it's flattering, but being 43 and having a 19 or 20 year old barely out of high school boy checking you out feels icky and uncomfortable. Having old grandpas looking at me is way less awkward.

posted October 28, 2015 12:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Wild Horses:
DopGang, I truly don't think anyone meant to make you feel insulted. I think they were just sounding off about their various experiences of being overtly stared at by others.

The old/older man thing is hilariously ironic in my case, because I have the exact opposite problem. I keep getting stared at by guys that are way younger than me, and I have to make sure to absolutely avoid any and all eye contact with them so that I don't feel like a perv.

I turned 43 this year, and I'm a Gem Sun and Gem Venus, and I've always looked years younger than my age. Most people assume I'm 30 or early 30's at the most. They're always shocked to find out I'm in my 40's already. My Gem Sun and Venus help at keeping me a little younger looking, and my Virgo Moon drives me to take care of myself so that I look my best.

What that causes, though, is stare downs and look-me-up-and-down glances from guys who are in their 20's and sometimes even late teens. Maybe they think I'd be a cougar or something, but I'm just thinking, "Whooooaaa, I'm old enough to be your Mom." Don't get me wrong, it's flattering, but being 43 and having a 19 or 20 year old barely out of high school boys checking you out feels icky and uncomfortable. Having old grandpa's looking at me is way less awkward.

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A lot of us younger guys in our 20s prefer women your age

posted October 28, 2015 01:04 PM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
My problem isn't whether or not I'm considered "old" or "too old", etc. It doesn't matter for many many reasons which I feel no need to get into.
What I don't like is this undercurrent that I'm being treated with disrespect because I'm "older". Like, "he's one! That pervy bast*rd!"
Hey, I'm just on an internet forum about astrology. I'm not on the street staring at you.
It's not fair and it's not right.
I'm not here to fight but that's what's in the pipeline so that's my clue to find the exit.
All because I half-jokingly asked for clarity. It's like there's a victim mentality in here and that's never good.

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If it's because I answered your question in any way that could be considered rude or made me look like I was on the defensive, I am sorry. I simply was answering what you asked and didn't have any other afterthoughts.
I fully agree that "older man" is a subjective term and I really could have meant 50 and older, which wasn't the case...

Moreover, I didn't mean to start this topic to bash on older man watching younger girls or anything.
It was really just my observation on things that happened to me and I wanted to see what I had in common with people who experienced the same thing. I noticed that I am mainly looked at by man past their 30's and that's all I wanted to point out, maybe I'm even more looked at be younger guys but simply don't notice it as much.

I also never thought that those mans were pervert or anything. Staring at people isn't the same as being stalkers or pervert. They may stare because:
a) they find me/us beautiful
b) we simply have an energy that makes us stand out
c) We look weird

posted October 28, 2015 01:13 PM            

Just one of hundreds (and possibly more) reasons why people look or stare.

posted October 28, 2015 01:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Wild Horses:

The old/older man thing is hilariously ironic in my case, because I have the exact opposite problem. I keep getting stared at by guys that are way younger than me, and I have to make sure to absolutely avoid any and all eye contact with them so that I don't feel like a perv.

I turned 43 this year, and I'm a Gem Sun and Gem Venus, and I've always looked years younger than my age. Most people assume I'm 30 or early 30's at the most. They're always shocked to find out I'm in my 40's already. My Gem Sun and Venus help at keeping me a little younger looking, and my Virgo Moon drives me to take care of myself so that I look my best.

What that causes, though, is stare downs and look-me-up-and-down glances from guys who are in their 20's and sometimes even late teens. Maybe they think I'd be a cougar or something, but I'm just thinking, "Whooooaaa, I'm old enough to be your Mom." Don't get me wrong, it's flattering, but being 43 and having a 19 or 20 year old barely out of high school boy checking you out feels icky and uncomfortable. Having old grandpas looking at me is way less awkward.

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I have the same, as in I looking years younger, I am 45 but they give me 34 or the like. I have Gem Mercury conjunct MC.

posted October 28, 2015 01:23 PM            

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Originally posted by RoseLily:
If it's because I answered your question in any way that could be considered rude or made me look like I was on the defensive, I am sorry. I simply was answering what you asked and didn't have any other afterthoughts.
I fully agree that "older man" is a subjective term and I really could have meant 50 and older, which wasn't the case...

Moreover, I didn't mean to start this topic to bash on older man watching younger girls or anything.
It was really just my observation on things that happened to me and I wanted to see what I had in common with people who experienced the same thing. I noticed that I am mainly looked at by man past their 30's and that's all I wanted to point out, maybe I'm even more looked at be younger guys but simply don't notice it as much.

I also never thought that those mans were pervert or anything. Staring at people isn't the same as being stalkers or pervert. They may stare because:
a) they find me/us beautiful
b) we simply have an energy that makes us stand out
c) We look weird

Again, I don't think anyone here is defensive or even need to be. Being stared at is weird, but it's also strangely flattering in a sense if you like the attention.

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