posted October 30, 2015 05:33 PM            

Emotionally-speaking, love is a drug I would probably overdose on if it were possible. I see it as a fairy tale of two souls on a beautiful romantic adventure; the worlds most divine masterpiece filled with years of unconditional loyalty and endless affection. An unspoken connection where you can feel what your lover is feeling/thinking and there's no need for words. That strong bond where you can see your feelings mirrored in their eyes and immediately know that your hearts beat as "one" - a union of two feeling like we're one in the same ..

What do I consider romantic?
Drowning into each other's eyes, cuddling by the fireplace like there's no tomorrow, nurturing each other, writing emotional letters/poems once in a while, paying close attention to one another's needs and feelings, holding hands, LOTS of touching, hugging and kissing. Laying in bed laughing for hours, enjoying each others' company doing nothing at all or being silent for ages. Cozy nights at home cooking a nice homemade meal and having a candle-lit dinner together. Watching a romantic comedy while reminiscing about the way we felt when we first laid eyes on each other. Having meaningful conversations about our feelings, life, our deepest dreams, the future, etc. I also looove the thought of going to an expensive downtown restaurant, all dressed up with a luxurious car. Having a nice a fancy romantic dinner, looking into each others eyes a lot as we talk about personal matters and our aspirations in life. Making lovey-dovey/silly faces in that picture booth picture frame strip thingy and putting it on the fridge or in our wallet. Watching the sunset on the ocean, hiking up to the beach at night to walk and talk along the boardwalk, laying on the grass and watching the stars, kissing in the rain, etc.

With that being said, I'm a diverse woman who likes to try different things, so any type of date works for me. I get bored easily and I'll try anything ONCE

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Leo Sun/Mercury
Sagittarius Moon
Cancer Venus/Mars/Rising

posted October 30, 2015 06:47 PM            

Well, I think romantic love is more often like a plane ride: starts out normal then goes way up in the sky, you're so close to the clouds and rainbows you can almost touch them!...then at some point the plane malfunctions, there is lots of turbulence, the plane tries to stay up there but eventually, usually, it often crashes into a mountainside in a fantastic explosion with no survivors.

Sag Venus conjunct Neptune

"To die by your side...oh it's a heavenly way to dieeeee"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-cD4oLk_D0

posted October 30, 2015 07:06 PM            

Right on.

posted October 30, 2015 07:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
^^ Aw!

Well, I think romantic love is more often like a plane ride: starts out normal then goes way up in the sky, you're so close to the clouds and rainbows you can almost touch them!...then at some point the plane malfunctions, there is lots of turbulence, the plane tries to stay up there but eventually, usually, it often crashes into a mountainside in a fantastic explosion with no survivors.

Sag Venus conjunct Neptune

"To die by your side...oh it's a heavenly way to dieeeee"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-cD4oLk_D0

Okay that's melodramatic maybe...

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posted October 30, 2015 07:25 PM            

They might be a cure for overpopulation (oh wait, can't have that...), especially if the robots ever become sentient...and then it might turn into something closer to the real thing as they kill us all.

posted October 30, 2015 07:26 PM            

It's that intense, all-consuming KNOWING that this person is your destiny, and I suppose nothing confirms that as much as said things...

That being said I do have a Venus in aries...

posted October 30, 2015 07:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Doux and hypatia

I'm a romantic still, honest...hypatia, I love your answer too...I just get philosophical about love (Sag Venus, go figure!)

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hahaha your answer is right on too though, love it, bring more of that, it blew my mind and made me laugh.

posted October 30, 2015 07:31 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Love is when no matter how much time has passed that person makes your heart beat out of your body when you see them or think of them and when your heart pops out of your body and time stops bc you think you saw them in a crowd. Knowing when they think of you, miss you and want to see you even though you don't talk bc no matter how much time has passed your souls never cease to wonder about the other and cease to desire to see them again and is just one of those things that you can't rationally explain but you have to accept because its always there and never goes away like a twin that passed away but their spirit is with you everywhere you go making the love and their spirit unavoidable bc is tattooed to your own soul.

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posted October 30, 2015 07:35 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
hahaha your answer is right on too though, love it, bring more of that, it blew my mind and made me laugh.

Love that sag honesty.

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Thanks.....I feel creepy for the answer I gave...like someone telling a kid that Santa doesn't exist....I think I'll just tiptoe off this thread right after saying this:

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
And omg, you posted a Smiths song. That makes you 1000 times more awesome than you already are.

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Oh but right back atcha...you love the Smiths too? I'm glad. I love that song...LOL

posted October 30, 2015 07:42 PM            

Sharing means the bad times, and that does mean there will be disagreements and even fights, but love finds a way to compromise and go on, it's tough enough to survive rather than finding the lack of perfection to be distracting or worse (or when the love high chemicals in the brain finally die down, which doesn't mean the love itself goes away, of course).

I have 3H Libra Venus in a stellium, sextile the Sag stellium.

Though interesting enough...me and my mom both have a Leo ASC (I think of the same decan as well), but have a very different philosophy regarding men/partners. I like interesting partners, but she wants a guy who will dote on her, be helpless before her charms, and she takes pride in getting a man to do that, and thinks of my ability to take care of myself as similar to a blind person who demonstrates superior senses in the other ways, impressive but not enviable and even somewhat pitiable. I, OTOH, am glad I don't have to seduce a man into taking care of me because I can take care of myself. So we're like the opposite and yet we both take pride in how we are while glad we're not the other.

posted October 30, 2015 07:55 PM            

But, to sum it up:
(and it's a "thought in process", so bound to change over time, with new experiences and so on)

Romantic love is one thing; "true" love is another thing, and "Love" is yet another thing.

Basically, romantic love is like an addiction. There are highs and lows, and it's something fickle and unstable. You can't trust it too much because it's not "true" love, and sometimes it's motivated only by selfish desires (e.g. how good someone makes you feel (or bad, if you're an emotional masochist)) or psychological complexes (insecurity, fear of being alone, the need for attention/validation from an external source, etc). It will wear off at some point and if there's no "true" love behind it, well, that's the famous "crash".

"True" love is when you see someone for who they are, and not for how they make you feel, and their "self" - independently of how it affects you on a personal level - inspires such benevolent feelings in you that you just want them to be happy, regardless of how you fit into their life.

Which kinda ties into the next concept...

"Love", is... that universal, all-encompassing "feeling" that you get when you're truly present to yourself and the world around you, when you're on a higher level of consciousness and feel as "One"... It's that sense of wholeness, of connectedness, of beatitude, and it's too vast to be limited to "I love my family" or "I love my boyfriend", because in that state you love everyone and everything, because that's just the power of Love. It's infinite.

But, applied to your loved one(s), I suppose it seems less "intense", because it's not ego-based. It comes from the heart, from the soul, and so there's no sense of possessiveness, jealousy, or "drama" (strong emotional highs and lows), here... But that is, of course, unattainable on a daily basis (unless you're like the epitome of spiritual enlightenment. Or simply careless. And I wonder if spiritual enlightenment doesn't entail a form of "carelessness" when it comes to "human" love - think of the Buddha who allegedly left his wife/family to go sit under a tree and just be all spiritual...)

I think all these categories are inter-connected and can spill into each other, they're not neatly separated (creating the beautiful mess that is life).
They're just, different... levels? of love? Something like that. There's the baby stage of love (romance), the mature stage of love (true love) and the highest stage of love ("Love" itself).

Whelp, I think I'm getting lost in my own mind. So if this seems incohesive, that's because it probably is. Heh.

posted October 30, 2015 08:04 PM            

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Originally posted by polkadotstars:
Love is when you care more about the other person's happiness than your own.

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posted October 30, 2015 08:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Thanks.....I feel creepy for the answer I gave...like someone telling a kid that Santa doesn't exist....I think I'll just tiptoe off this thread right after saying this

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Nah, there is a lot of truth to what you said, somebody has to say it. Maybe all of us with sag placements can take turns bursting bubbles...

posted October 30, 2015 08:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Leo-Cancer98:
Very well said! What's your Moon/Venus?!

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Moon in Pisces in the 3rd.
Venus in Leo in the 8th.

Yes

posted October 30, 2015 08:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Personally I just have so many different ideas about what love is, that you don't even want to get me started.

But, to sum it up:
(and it's a "thought in process", so bound to change over time, with new experiences and so on)

Romantic love is one thing; "true" love is another thing, and "Love" is yet another thing.

Basically, romantic love is like an addiction. There are highs and lows, and it's something fickle and unstable. You can't trust it too much because it's not "true" love, and sometimes it's motivated only by selfish desires (e.g. how good someone makes you feel (or bad, if you're an emotional masochist)) or psychological complexes (insecurity, fear of being alone, the need for attention/validation from an external source, etc). It will wear off at some point and if there's no "true" love behind it, well, that's the famous "crash".

"True" love is when you see someone for who they are, and not for how they make you feel, and their "self" - independently of how it affects you on a personal level - inspires such benevolent feelings in you that you just want them to be happy, regardless of how you fit into their life.

Which kinda ties into the next concept...

"Love", is... that universal, all-encompassing "feeling" that you get when you're truly present to yourself and the world around you, when you're on a higher level of consciousness and feel as "One"... It's that sense of wholeness, of connectedness, of beatitude, and it's too vast to be limited to "I love my family" or "I love my boyfriend", because in that state you love everyone and everything, because that's just the power of Love. It's infinite.

But, applied to your loved one(s), I suppose it seems less "intense", because it's not ego-based. It comes from the heart, from the soul, and so there's no sense of possessiveness, jealousy, or "drama" (strong emotional highs and lows), here... But that is, of course, unattainable on a daily basis (unless you're like the epitome of spiritual enlightenment. Or simply careless. And I wonder if spiritual enlightenment doesn't entail a form of "carelessness" when it comes to "human" love - think of the Buddha who allegedly left his wife/family to go sit under a tree and just be all spiritual...)

I think all these categories are inter-connected and can spill into each other, they're not neatly separated (creating the beautiful mess that is life).
They're just, different... levels? of love? Something like that. There's the baby stage of love (romance), the mature stage of love (true love) and the highest stage of love ("Love" itself).

Whelp, I think I'm getting lost in my own mind. So if this seems incohesive, that's because it probably is. Heh.

Oh and, the things that make me analyze that concept to such an extent: Gemini/Virgo/Scorpio mix?

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WOW beautifully put...

I have to say my ex brings all the 3 types depending on the day you can say, it jumps around. I love that you kind of covered that towards the end.

posted October 30, 2015 08:27 PM            

It's hard for me to label things romantic. Something either stimulates me emotionally or not. I can tell you I have a soft spot for unusual, grand love stories spiced with fighting against the world.

Aquarius Venus

posted October 30, 2015 08:37 PM            

I'll be very "brief".
Venus Virgo, 12, square Neptune

I think Venus is kind of a gateway to love, at least in part because I see other parts of the chart at work.

There are two kinds of love that I have, to be extremely basic. A very self sacrificing "lost in you" love. It is real love too, even after the crash. Oh it's definitely real love. But it's a love built on, well it might as well be built on the air. One day it just blows away and you're left holding the string to a kite, that was your love. But it's gone. Where, who knows. You just "stare at the sky", dumbfounded at how something so beautiful could slip away.
That love is like it's only the two of you deep in the ocean. Removed from everyone. No responsibilities. They're all forgotten. There's no money, no worry, no stress. Nothing. Just each other and love with no limits. Dreams and "sweet nothings" until reality slowly creeps in.

Now, another type is built VERY much on reality. This is the love that I can make work and it's the other ideal love to me.
I am bonded to this other person. We are now one. So, I will work 50 hours a week if I have to. I am very dutiful to this person, this love. I do for them what I would do for me. I doubt their decisions as if they were my own decisions. But I also CONSIDER their decisions as if they were my own decisions. I work hard for us, our future, our needs. I expect the same. There's no measure to what I do or what they do. In other words I don't keep track of anything. Just give me the effort. Just take it seriously. Just put in to help make whatever our dreams are come true. I will treat you as I would myself. I will consider your thoughts and feelings. Just return it.

posted October 30, 2015 09:32 PM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
Oh geez. What an infinite amount of words there are to talk about this. Ugh.

I'll be very "brief".
Venus Virgo, 12, square Neptune

I think Venus is kind of a gateway to love, at least in part because I see other parts of the chart at work.

There are two kinds of love that I have, to be extremely basic. A very self sacrificing "lost in you" love. It is real love too, even after the crash. Oh it's definitely real love. But it's a love built on, well it might as well be built on the air. One day it just blows away and you're left holding the string to a kite, that was your love. But it's gone. Where, who knows. You just "stare at the sky", dumbfounded at how something so beautiful could slip away.
That love is like it's only the two of you deep in the ocean. Removed from everyone. No responsibilities. They're all forgotten. There's no money, no worry, no stress. Nothing. Just each other and love with no limits. Dreams and "sweet nothings" until reality slowly creeps in.

Now, another type is built VERY much on reality. This is the love that I can make work and it's the other ideal love to me.
I am bonded to this other person. We are now one. So, I will work 50 hours a week if I have to. I am very dutiful to this person, this love. I do for them what I would do for me. I doubt their decisions as if they were my own decisions. But I also CONSIDER their decisions as if they were my own decisions. I work hard for us, our future, our needs. I expect the same. There's no measure to what I do or what they do. In other words I don't keep track of anything. Just give me the effort. Just take it seriously. Just put in to help make whatever our dreams are come true. I will treat you as I would myself. I will consider your thoughts and feelings. Just return it.

Ugh. I just can't explain it right. I can't. I feel like I didn't even give it 1/4 of the justice that it deserves but there you go.

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You did great, love it.

The kite analogy (Uranus) and the ocean analogy (Neptune) and then the day to day Venus in Virgo description was great!

posted October 30, 2015 09:37 PM              

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Originally posted by Faith:
^^ Aw!

Well, I think romantic love is more often like a plane ride: starts out normal then goes way up in the sky, you're so close to the clouds and rainbows you can almost touch them!...then at some point the plane malfunctions, there is lots of turbulence, the plane tries to stay up there but eventually, usually, it often crashes into a mountainside in a fantastic explosion with no survivors.

Sag Venus conjunct Neptune

"To die by your side...oh it's a heavenly way to dieeeee"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-cD4oLk_D0

Okay that's melodramatic maybe...

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posted October 30, 2015 09:43 PM              

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Originally posted by DopGang:
Oh geez. What an infinite amount of words there are to talk about this. Ugh.

I'll be very "brief".
Venus Virgo, 12, square Neptune

I think Venus is kind of a gateway to love, at least in part because I see other parts of the chart at work.

There are two kinds of love that I have, to be extremely basic. A very self sacrificing "lost in you" love. It is real love too, even after the crash. Oh it's definitely real love. But it's a love built on, well it might as well be built on the air. One day it just blows away and you're left holding the string to a kite, that was your love. But it's gone. Where, who knows. You just "stare at the sky", dumbfounded at how something so beautiful could slip away.
That love is like it's only the two of you deep in the ocean. Removed from everyone. No responsibilities. They're all forgotten. There's no money, no worry, no stress. Nothing. Just each other and love with no limits. Dreams and "sweet nothings" until reality slowly creeps in.

Now, another type is built VERY much on reality. This is the love that I can make work and it's the other ideal love to me.
I am bonded to this other person. We are now one. So, I will work 50 hours a week if I have to. I am very dutiful to this person, this love. I do for them what I would do for me. I doubt their decisions as if they were my own decisions. But I also CONSIDER their decisions as if they were my own decisions. I work hard for us, our future, our needs. I expect the same. There's no measure to what I do or what they do. In other words I don't keep track of anything. Just give me the effort. Just take it seriously. Just put in to help make whatever our dreams are come true. I will treat you as I would myself. I will consider your thoughts and feelings. Just return it.

Ugh. I just can't explain it right. I can't. I feel like I didn't even give it 1/4 of the justice that it deserves but there you go.

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posted October 30, 2015 09:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
I had that same thought.
When I don't philosophize so much, that's how I tend to see it... Though I can't help but think about the "martyr" syndrome here, as well.

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OMG that was my same reaction. At first I was like right on and then I started to think about it more and then felt conflicted about it bc of what you pointed out...