posted November 01, 2015 01:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Selenite:
I dunno, I have iced someone out recently. And it *was* indifference on my part. I felt drained and used constantly and there was too much misunderstanding between us, to the point where it was only exhausting for me to continue to try to be close to this person.
It seems like a similar situation to yours, our moons were quincunx too, and she was a Libra, and she *did* tell the rest of my friends (who I introduced her to), that I stopped talking to her, which I also find to be inappropriate and unnecessary. We were close for years, but I actually never felt like she understood me, and it took its toll over time. So in this sense it's not personal to her, I just don't have any hope that there will be any understanding between us, and would rather not focus on it.

Sorry on her behalf. Try not to take it personally.

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Whoa, same thing happened to me with a double Libra (I'm an Aries Venus). It's actually been the lovely, dramatic theme of my life this year. The miscommunications between this axis is frankly.. an infuriating thing lol. Aries see the Libran love of harmony as passive aggressive more often than not, and whenever we try to "clear the air" and get rid of the subtle undertones, it's seen as unnecessarily aggressive and harsh in their minds. Mind you, Libra is a prototypical feminine sign and Aries is masculine. Doesn't make either side right or wrong but there is a clear incompatibility when it comes to girl/girl friendships.

This Libra in my life has time and time again "extended the hand" to me, trying to apologize, sorry for all miscommunications in the past that led to mutual hostility. I relented, because I genuinely did love her but... it's almost impossible to bridge the gap of understanding. At a certain point Aries is just like, "you know what, we would be way better off going our separate ways. Our sanity will thank us for this later. You're cool, but it's not gonna work. Sorry." - this immediately sets off Libra's conflict-and-resolution skills, sending this thing into an endless spiral. My God.

"We were close for years, but I actually never felt like she understood me, and it took its toll over time. So in this sense it's not personal to her, I just don't have any hope that there will be any understanding between us, and would rather not focus on it."

posted November 01, 2015 02:27 PM            

So she read my apology, got on my page in the next few days, but isn't saying a thing. I guess if I were to ice someone out, I wouldn't even think to look at their page, simply because I would be done.

posted November 01, 2015 02:42 PM            

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Originally posted by caligal2015:
She did unlike the pic. I got the alert on my phone but when I went to facebook, it was gone and only the text message remained, showing it was her.

So she read my apology, got on my page in the next few days, but isn't saying a thing. I guess if I were to ice someone out, I wouldn't even think to look at their page, simply because I would be done.

She did have to have all of the control. So she certainly has all of it now.

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posted November 01, 2015 04:21 PM            

I've long struggled with Libra. I find them pushy, clingy, and argumentative. What I hate most is their belief that because they're nice/friendly/polite I MUST respond.

They're very good at manipulating things to make me look bad, and they almost always succeed. They WILL ruffle your feathers, once you react turn it around to make you look like a monster. It can be frustrating.

posted November 01, 2015 04:45 PM            

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it's almost impossible to bridge the gap of understanding. At a certain point Aries is just like, "you know what, we would be way better off going our separate ways

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That's exactly what I think happened. She wants to go separate ways and is no longer interested in a friendship.
There's no interesting double agenda sigh

I am sorry someone replied earlier giving you further reasons to overthink this... by mentioning Sun/Pluto.

As it happens your Sun and her Pluto are about 5 degrees apart, and 90% of astrologers would not interpret that aspect. You would have that aspect with millions of people, of many different signs - if you give Pluto such a wide orb.
It really doesn't make any sense at all to blame that aspect - for your perception that she is controlling you.

She is just not interested.
If this was a guy, people here would reply saying "he's not that into you".

posted November 01, 2015 05:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Selenite:
I dunno, I have iced someone out recently. And it *was* indifference on my part. I felt drained and used constantly and there was too much misunderstanding between us, to the point where it was only exhausting for me to continue to try to be close to this person.
It seems like a similar situation to yours, our moons were quincunx too, and she was a Libra, and she *did* tell the rest of my friends (who I introduced her to), that I stopped talking to her, which I also find to be inappropriate and unnecessary. We were close for years, but I actually never felt like she understood me, and it took its toll over time. So in this sense it's not personal to her, I just don't have any hope that there will be any understanding between us, and would rather not focus on it.

Sorry on her behalf. Try not to take it personally.

Edit: Oops, sorry I see you said you told 'your friends' not 'your mutual friends,' sorry, still kind of *peeved about that in my case . Man, everyone thinks Aries moons don't do the grudge thing, but we totally do! (Or maybe it's the Scorpio Venus?)

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I hardly find anyone with sheer Aries energy to ice friends out. In romantic context or in a context where the Aries moon is so boxed in that their independence is threatened, they would tell you to back off and proceed to ice out. But it never goes without some sort of verbal/body language/very clear signals.

Also, I dont think this is a synastry issue necessarily. She is a strong-willed person with NATAL sun-pluto opposition. Then all that mutable venus/mars/jupiter/saturn.

I personally dont get along with people with lots of libra energy either, as an aries moon. They really like to gossip or provoke so that you act, they blame.

Now the interaction that OP talks about doesn't seem that Aries moon to me. Even though we are sensitive, combative, we respond well to sincere apology. But the sun-pluto natals always hold grudge because they think they saw something in your that down the road will prove to be offensive once again.

posted November 01, 2015 06:06 PM            

I had to invite her. What I wanted to do was dismissed. I would say "hello" and she would give me a date and time and what we were gonna do. There were many instances of this, that when looked at individually it wouldnt look like much, but the overall picture seemed to be that way. As my husband said (he's a Cancer with a Pisces moon) "I'm looking at the entire friendship, not just a detail here or there."

I'm pretty sure she reset my Facebook password. After she unfriended me, I asked her to reconsider and told her a specific date to "look me up if she was interested." Two days later, my friends and husband tell me to block her, so I do. On the day that I gave her to "look me up", my Facebook password was reset. She is the only other person, besides me, who has that email addy linked to my Facebook. I'm confused, so I ask my husband if he thinks it's her. He says "of course! She came back on that specific day and she's the ONLY person with that email. It was her. My gut tells me she wasn't trying to hack you Cuz she could have hacked you at any other point. I think she was throwing a pebble at your window,
Telling you she was interested in coming back. A normal person would have text messaged you or emailed you. But her? No way. She was never going to stick her neck out for you. Remember, you want to see her? Invite her. But she's not going to invite you,'although she will tell you the day, time and activity."

So yes, it's borderline toxic. My issue is that I still refuse to believe yhat. I'm such a flip flopper. I see that side, then I see the other side. I also refuse to believe I'd admire a woman that troubled. Resetting my password is not normal. Then again, I admit that me trying to obtain answers in such a situation isn't healthy either. I want to know why. I want to know why she reset the password. You're icing me out, but reading my apology and getting on my profile.

posted November 01, 2015 06:18 PM            

The space away from the friendship did allow me to see i was not perfect and made mistakes. I explained what I did wrong, apologized acknowledging it was my mistake and apologized, taking the blame and also saying that in moving forward, I can now see what mistakes to not repeat. Then nothing. But she accidentally liked a pic on facebook. And less than a month ago, the odds are that you reset my Facebook password, as my husband said,
To show some interest in trying again without making her vulnerable.
In 6 years my Facebook password has never been reset. When you get hacked you don't even know it. It was the day I told you to look me up. You were the only one with that email addy.

So, if my hubby is correct and she is throwing "pebbles at your window", but then less than a month later I apologize for my part, now you aren't saying anything, but you're reading the apology and get on my Facebook page, I want to know why.

I have to accept I will never get answers and not try to understand why.

I apologized, I'm sincere, and I'm genuine. I truly care. But as Odette said, I'm overthinking things. I will not get answers, ever. And that's okay.

posted November 01, 2015 06:23 PM            

Please! She is really toxic for you. Whether her behaviour is intentional or just dismissive... it's irrelevant.
It just doesn't matter what she thinks, what she wants or what her motivations are.

You need to distance yourself. Please trust me! I have a lot of Neptunian-influence going on and I feel how much this is affecting you. Even though I don't know you personally, I can tell this is taking over your life.

Please - don't let this go on!
You need to cut her RIGHT out... out of sight, out of mind. Block her - and do not search for her or look her up etc.. Just completely block her out.

If you have mutual friends, who still bring her up and begin conversations about her - then avoid those friends for some time. Or, tell them clearly: "I am no longer interested in having any conversation about this person".

Then take it one day at a time, and whenever you get angry - and this enters your mind.. find little ways to distract yourself.
Talk to your husband or a friend (about a *different*, non-Aries, topic), to take your mind of her.
Maybe join a new course or try something you've always wanted to to do, but never got the chance.

Please take my advice.. It is SO important that you cut this person out!

posted November 01, 2015 06:30 PM            

My hubby and friends and I had a great time last night for Halloween. I'm sure when this is completely behind me, I'm gonna look back on it and say "that was freaking weird!!"

posted November 01, 2015 07:05 PM            

I don't think it's possible for them to have an Aries moon. I don't think the moon moves enough degrees in a day to cover that distance.

Anyway, I had a cancer/cancer not respond to my apology and then later send a friend request which was just a fat finger mistake. I had the notification on my phone and on fb but when I went to the friend request it was gone.
I think this Aries upset and don't want to talk. It doesn't seem confusing to me. You're both probably obsessing but you want things to be alright, being Libra.
Some other signs can be angry/upset and not feel "uncomfortable" with it, including Aries I think. Libra will be uncomfortable with being angry.

I'm close to two Aries sun/moon and two Libra sun/moon. A couple of them are close and like each other a lot!
I love both signs too. Yet, there's a Libra with Aries moon that I'm not so fond of. LOL
There's only sign combinations that I don't like but even then, I don't know what it is.
There's a sag/Virgo that is a great friend (talked to them a lot the last two days LOL) and another that I want to tie up and feed feces.

posted November 01, 2015 07:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Isa:
I AM crying, guys. So much libra hate

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posted November 01, 2015 07:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
That's exactly what I think happened. She wants to go separate ways and is no longer interested in a friendship.
There's no interesting double agenda sigh

I am sorry someone replied earlier giving you further reasons to overthink this... by mentioning Sun/Pluto.

As it happens your Sun and her Pluto are about 5 degrees apart, and 90% of astrologers would not interpret that aspect. You would have that aspect with millions of people, of many different signs - if you give Pluto such a wide orb.
It really doesn't make any sense at all to blame that aspect - for your perception that she is controlling you.

She is just not interested.
If this was a guy, people here would reply saying "he's not that into you".

It's really important that you focus on other friends, family and things in your life - and try to forget all about her. This is taking over your life and that's not ok!
Please try to put yourself first and stop worrying so much about her and her motivations... and whatever she does on FB.
Just ignore her... Block her if you like... She is yesterday's news! You need to live in the moment and focus on your *today*.

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The Sun-Pluto someone was me. It's okay you could have mentioned me directly. No problem ;-)
Despite the orb it's a DW and 5 degrees isn't an abyss when a luminary is involved.
So, I find it relevant. And other astrologers do. I'm pretty sure more than 10%
Unless you're talking Magi astrology. Then yes the orbs are strict and it would be excluded from the interpretation

Off course there are several aspects, but for the sake of not repeating what others have said before... I highlighted something that stood out to me.

Yes I'm sure she has Sun Pluto DWs with millions of people. I wonder why she happened to be friends and cross with this specific one. Don't worry it's pure chance...

Pluto involved in toxic interactions. You're right. It was a silly tought on my part

Anyway yes...moving on would be wise. But I get it I feel bad when someone exits my life.

posted November 01, 2015 07:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Isa:
I AM crying, guys. So much libra hate

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This is a weird thread...seems to have taken on a life of its own.