posted November 05, 2015 07:21 AM            

Lol.

Some traits irk me more than others.

I "struggle" with cancer placements the most, especially the moon. Oh man. Don't even.

I don't have any particularly bad experience though.

Too bad for me because having cancer SN and DSC in the 7th house, I do cross paths with them quite often. With my 1st house cap NN, I don't like to feel like I'm going back to my SN, or to be surrounded by energy that reminds me of the SN.

I have cancer chiron in the 7th house. So I suppose that cancer placements trigger something weird. The interactions often wear me out quickly and hardly ever inspire relaxed feelings or enjoyment.

Well come to think of it, things with water dominant people (or water moons people) often go bad.

posted November 05, 2015 07:39 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
AQUARIUS

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posted November 05, 2015 11:50 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
A question

Do you conclude that two planets reacting with a common planet/point but not necessarily in aspect to each other, are in an indirect relationship with each other?

This because of the common relationship with that planet/point i.e

Moon in Cancer 12 Deg
Mid-heaven Cancer 18 Deg
Mars in Libra 24 Deg

Moon conjuncts Mid-heaven(6 Deg orb)
Mid-heaven squares Mars(6 Deg orb)

The common point here is the Mid-heaven. So I would say that Moon-Mars are interacting through the common factor; the Mid-heaven.

In the same breath; your Mercury conjuncts Venus. Venus opposes the MC. And therefore by the virtue of the relationship that Venus and Mercury have to the common sensitive angle/point(MC),they interact with each other?

So your Mercury would also oppose the MC...Is it a stretch?

My Mercury is in Cap BTW.

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I believe so, yeah. To me, it works like translation of light in horary, so any planets that don't aspect each other but aspect one other planet/point in common will still somehow feel the effects. I also theorize that conjunctions have stronger effects when this happens. Sometimes, I even feel as if I have a Mercury-MC opposition even when I actually don't. The conjunction is lose, but conjunctions are powerful nevertheless.

You said you can get quite confused too when it comes to career. Is your Mercury aspecting Neptune at all? That's quite interesting because Capricorn usually knows where it's headed. Or is it just a Mercury thing?

posted November 05, 2015 02:04 PM            

In any chart,I see Moon,Mercury and Jupiter as influential of the person's state of mind.

Mercury is the lower mind, the details, the "how we get there" etc.

Moon is the perceptions, conclusions and the subjective experience of the path taken.

Jupiter is the one that wants purpose and some sort of trans-personal enrichment and growth from it all

Yes, usually Capricorn knows where it is going. That is if Saturn was sitting on my Mercury- I would too.

My Mercury is in aspect to Mars(square) and so, I tend to want things to happen very quickly. And if they don't, I change direction.

Now Mars is ambitious.And this can "double-up" as the push I would normally get from Saturn.

But oh no, my Moon opposes Mercury by a 1 Degree orb.So I don't have a consistent state of mind and vacillate between reason and feelings a lot.

By virtue of having these 3 interact like this,results in me being restless.

Mercury provides many alternatives , Mars is up to give each and every single one of them a try and Moon is the maverick that can be temperamental and unwilling to commit to anything not "soul fulfilling"

Now the confusion may be compounded by the Jupiter/Neptune/Sun conjunct. And not by direct aspect of Neptune to Mercury.

So yes, I will start off very enthusiastic with a set plan and goal(Mercury-Mars square).

Something along the way unsettles me to my core(Moon) and I end up not feeling comfortable about what I am doing.

Then I start to get confused right in the middle of it as I just can't see the "divinity" in it i.e "why am I doing this again?" (Jupiter-Sun-Neptune conjunct).

After which, I Just change the direction and go another way....

posted November 05, 2015 04:36 PM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
I this thread.

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Thank you and me, too.

With gratitude to everyone, for not being defensive, for letting us just air our grievances...

Hope no one's feelings got hurt.

It's all just synastry after all?

And one more thing, I realized I have no trouble at all with SATURN in Cancer! Jupiter in Cancer is pretty awesome, too....

posted November 06, 2015 07:51 AM            

I struggle with Virgo and it's all my fault (sniffles)

My 2nd house is Virgo with Saturn there. Can you guess how Virgos make me feel? Inadequate. But my NN is there, so I can't stay away from them. I have to love, want, admire, adore them.

Ah! I just had a breakthrough. Perhaps the little masochistic devil on my left shoulder can be explained by that conjunction in Virgo.

posted November 06, 2015 08:17 AM            

*edit! Sorry, I misunderstood your comment at first. What I should have said is, thank you for being mindful of me.

Virgo....well everyone here knows they are my undoing so....

You definitely have my sympathy!

posted November 06, 2015 10:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Cancer stands as a reminder to me that emotions can be an absolute zoo sometimes, and dealing with emotions is hard, and that's why I chose to suppress them a lot, and that's why I'm not really emotionally intelligent or mature so much as really good at keeping a lid on my emotions. Watching a Cancer "lose it," kinda makes me think, "Yeah....that's me on the inside....god help me if that wild animal escapes!"

Something like that....I don't want to put too fine of a point on it....it's truly vague inside of me.

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posted November 06, 2015 10:54 AM            

The only reason I'm even aware of this (not many Pisces folk tend to cross my path as it stands anyway) is because some of the people I find the most grating in life, I will ask for their birthdays, and I'm always like "wtf...I can't stand this person, how is it that they're a Pisces?!"

It's downright odd. I have yet to figure out the reasoning behind it, because they can range from February to March Pisces Suns, and I almost always find them very grating, and I don't really feel like I have that much in common with them.

posted November 06, 2015 11:05 AM            

omg you're back. So nice to see you!
How have you been?

posted November 06, 2015 11:16 AM            

Also waving to Faith!

posted November 06, 2015 11:51 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
For me, it's definitely Cancer.

This energy throws me for a loop and unsettles me. When the moon is transiting in Cancer, I feel like my somewhat orderly inner space is being subjected to an earthquake that shakes everything down from the walls and shelves and forces me to realize I'm not as strong as I had thought.

While I have had some phenomenal experiences with Cancer sun people (waves to venus2tinkerbell)...some of my worst experiences have been with Cancer suns. Furthermore, predictably, this is the sign where any planet in that sign is probably going to deeply unsettle me at some point. I can like and respect the person very much, but still be unsettled.

Cancer occupies my 12H, so planets that fall there can mystify me. At the same time they will ping my 8H Pisces moon. It's like someone tapping you on the shoulder, and you turn, and no one's there. I feel a lot but can't grasp what it is.

Cancer in the mid degrees forms a cardinal grand cross with my Capricorn sun, Aries Jupiter, and Libra Pluto. Maybe that's all I needed to say, right from the beginning.

Plus: all other signs are represented rather strongly in my chart, and if I want to tap into them, I have some connection to that energy from within. That's not really the case with Cancer...for some reason it feels almost alien to me.

My NN is in the 4th house so that could be another reason I struggle with it. And my draconic moon is in Cancer (but conjunct my tropical Saturn.) I feel like I have a lot of learning to do here. So I'm focusing on it. (And sorry for the length.)

I don't mean to invite a sign bashing extravaganza, just wondering if there is any one sign in particular that you consistently have trouble with?

Why the struggle?

Do you feel that you could grow by overcoming those difficulties?

Cheers

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My weirdest relationships tend to happen with Aquarius, which is odd because my ASC is Aqua. But yeah, tough relationships there.

I have tons of amazing friendships with Aries and love them... but in any case where an Aries and I have butted heads (or, horns, I guess :-p ) it was VERY bad. Worst fights - the most volatile exchanges. And usually the friendship never recovered.

And then in general, Libras and I tend to look sideways at each other. I have many libra friends... but yeah, somehow it just never clicks. We never 'get' one another and I always feel a little judged.

posted November 06, 2015 02:40 PM            

Aries is one that I'm like 25/75 with. Only a few that I get along with. A lot of them are too aggressive and not friendly enough for me to deal with. They come across as brash and not considerate of other people's feelings. They make me uneasy despite the fact that I have a Venus and Mars conjunct in Aries. And I date men with Aries moon signs lol. Maybe I'm just a walking contradiction.

posted November 06, 2015 02:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:

I usually like Pisces Sun women. (And the Moons!) Can't speak much about the men though.

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posted November 06, 2015 03:11 PM            

When I was younger, I had problems with three Gemini women. Two family, one neighbour - the latter went behind my back on something that upset me a lot, and the family members were a grandmother and a cousin.

posted November 06, 2015 03:33 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
You know mine. But it's really only been two of them, over the last few years. One Leo thrown in there, as well.

When I was younger, I had problems with three Gemini women. Two family, one neighbour - the latter went behind my back on something that upset me a lot, and the family members were a grandmother and a cousin.

I usually look for excuses as to why someone might act the way they do, whether it's towards me or others. Smug is going to annoy me, no matter what a person's sign. Someone doing whatever they have to do, no matter how hurtful, to achieve something - I can't stand it.

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posted November 06, 2015 03:38 PM            

Oddly, he reminds me of Virgo. SOME Virgo, not too many, but a few of them I want to rip their colon out and choke them with it.

posted November 06, 2015 03:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by teasel:
[b]You know mine. But it's really only been two of them, over the last few years. One Leo thrown in there, as well.

When I was younger, I had problems with three Gemini women. Two family, one neighbour - the latter went behind my back on something that upset me a lot, and the family members were a grandmother and a cousin.

I usually look for excuses as to why someone might act the way they do, whether it's towards me or others. Smug is going to annoy me, no matter what a person's sign. Someone doing whatever they have to do, no matter how hurtful, to achieve something - I can't stand it.

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I know. It's just too much when people group together and do it. I've had a lot of that over the past few years, but people like this were at the root of it. I don't usually consider it a sign thing - just people doing whatever comes naturally to them at the time, whoever they are in that moment. I'm basically me, but I'm so different now, in ways.