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Topic: How to flirt with stoic capricorns?
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DopGang Knowflake Posts: 1423 From: The land of WP Registered: Jun 2015
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posted November 09, 2015 04:22 PM
I once had a love thing (to simplify the complexity of giving it a title) with a VERY heavily Pisces/Saturn/cap influenced person. They always had a restrictive/reserved quality about them. At first very much so. It was like having to break down a wall and it was a lot of work. Once that wall crumbled then it was full blown. Like chewing on hard candy until you get to the yummy center. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 14309 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 09, 2015 04:40 PM
Yummy center!  Yes yes, please keep advertising that Caps have this inside. Even if we seem awkward, mean, controlling, and distant...hang in there...eventually you will reach the yummy center, it will reward you for all your pain.* . . . ---------------- *If we like you.
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 14309 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 09, 2015 04:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: Yay I got quoted! That's not the point, okay, moving on...agreeed! Pisces seem to like the energy feeling light hearted until it moves i to that moment. +1 Faith 😊
Woo hooo I got quoted, too!  I like your phrasing..."light hearted" does apply with me, there's less chance of hard clashing or feeling like your emotions are getting hit with a blunt object, so long as everything is kept light. Not that it has to stay light forever, but the basic idea is, getting deeper carefully. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 14309 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 09, 2015 04:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: If you want a Cap to burn for you, you must seem stoic, asexual and "restricted" in some way.
I was thinking of this. How like attracts like. My first boyfriend was a Capricorn, a few years older. He developed a crush on me before I ever said one word to him, and I know it wasn't based on my looks, because he could have crushed on prettier girls. I think Caps are more sensitive and perceptive than we get credit for. And he realized I am like him. And if I am like him, he can anticipate agreement about many things. He can trust me. That's the gift of the conjunction...of course there is a flip side, too. But I think this applies for all signs...we are looking to see parts of ourselves in other people...looking for a kind of reflection that makes us feel understood, accepted, part of something outside of ourselves.  IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 14309 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 09, 2015 04:56 PM
"Don't you have any shame about taking over the thread, Faith? Don't you have better things to do??""Why, yes, as a matter of fact, I do...."  'Later!
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angel4845 Knowflake Posts: 2049 From: los angeles, ca, USA Registered: Oct 2014
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posted November 09, 2015 05:43 PM
YOUR GONNA BE FINE JUST TELL HIM YOU LOVE HIM!!!!!!!!!!! jkjkjkjk!!! LOL sorry i just haaaaad to say this but im totally kidding dont do that please dont, just be classy we love classy at least i like that! hehe! triple cap here! including my IC,aphrodite,lust,medea,ceres,atlantis all in cap! 
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maggie Newflake Posts: 23 From: Registered: Aug 2015
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posted November 13, 2015 08:44 AM
Thank you everyone so much, you are all awesome. <3  I mess up his moon sign though, he's a Scorpio moon (not pisces). Don't know if that changes anything.. more devious perhaps? lol jk. :P His chart: Sun Capricorn Moon Scorpio Mercury Capricorn Venus Pisces Mars Pisces Jupiter Capricorn Saturn Scorpio Uranus Sagittarius Neptune Capricorn Pluto Scorpio So I want to report back what happen. :P The last few months, we have occasionally asked each other out to dinner and drinks. Great chemistry and conversations. He doesn't pull any of the "gentleman" moves, holding the door etc (there's a reason I mention this). Things have gotten somewhat awkward the last 6 weeks lol. There were awkward silences when we grab dinner. I really mess up. I get so self-conscious around him! That may be why he stop asking.  At the same time, he also started being really nice. At work, he will offer advice, he also asked for my opinion on the project he's working on. He waits for me to get off work, and yes, he really waited because I'm slowwww lol. When we take the subway (neither of us drive since we are both just 3-4 stations from work) during the evening rush hour, he is a lot more protective, which he wasn't before. Also he became quite the gentleman, which he never was lol. I feel so much more protected around him now. But the last two times I asked if he wanna grab dinner, he was like no, I'm going home.  I'm not sure how to take it from here. Is this normal for a cap, does it seems like he's interested or no? Cappies are so hard to read, but they're so down to earth and I don't wanna give up just yet.  IP: Logged |
maggie Newflake Posts: 23 From: Registered: Aug 2015
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posted November 13, 2015 08:53 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: Does he treat you like he likes you at all? Does he stand close, seem to radiate body heat, make steady eye contact, have a soft expression in his eyes when he's talking to you? Does he drag out conversations, as if he just wants an excuse to hang around you, not really caring what's being said? I'm a Cap sun, Pisces moon, Venus conjunct Neptune (similar to Pisces Venus.) That's how I've always been if I liked someone. It's demonstrative in a very quiet way...I would encourage the other person to talk a lot just so I could soak in their energy and revel in it... 
Yes, yes and yes lol, he definitely seems to do all of that. But for a day, and he gets all icy on me the immediate day after. If he gets close and we get all flirty one day, the day after he will always ignores me. That confuses the hell out of me, any insights as to why that is? IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 14309 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 13, 2015 09:36 AM
My guess is as good as yours. He could like you but not want a relationship, so he gives mixed signals. :-/ IP: Logged |
maggie Newflake Posts: 23 From: Registered: Aug 2015
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posted November 13, 2015 10:10 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: My guess is as good as yours. He could like you but not want a relationship, so he gives mixed signals. :-/
As a Cappy, do you think it's a good idea for me to tell him how I feel? I'm afraid he might find that too forward. =x IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 14309 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 13, 2015 10:44 AM
It always depends. I think Caps appreciate the compliment of having someone like them, but dislike feeling forced to do anything about it. I think Caps want to do things according to their own timing, which may be an unconsciously greedy or self-protective instinct.He may foresee complications because you work together, and want to avoid them. Care to post your synastry with him in Interpersonal Astrology? That might give us some clues about how to proceed.  IP: Logged |
maggie Newflake Posts: 23 From: Registered: Aug 2015
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posted November 13, 2015 11:38 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: It always depends. I think Caps appreciate the compliment of having someone like them, but dislike feeling forced to do anything about it. I think Caps want to do things according to their own timing, which may be an unconsciously greedy or self-protective instinct.He may foresee complications because you work together, and want to avoid them. Care to post your synastry with him in Interpersonal Astrology? That might give us some clues about how to proceed. 
Sorry, still new to astrology, still learning.  By Interpersonal Astrology, do you mean relationship synastry? I don't know his birth time, not sure if that's gonna affect the accuracy. Here's our chart, does it look bad? :P His chart: Sun Capricorn Moon Scorpio Mercury Capricorn Venus Pisces Mars Pisces Jupiter Capricorn Saturn Scorpio Uranus Sagittarius Neptune Capricorn Pluto Scorpio Lilith Aries Asc Node Taurus My chart: Sun Pisces Moon Libra Mercury Aquarius Venus Aquarius Mars Libra Jupiter Scorpio Saturn Libra Uranus Sagittarius Neptune Sagittarius Pluto Libra Lilith Sagittarius Asc Node Cancer IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 14309 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 13, 2015 01:29 PM
Thanks! I was able to use that info to generate a synastry chart at astro.com. So, his Mars and Venus are square Uranus. That explains a lot about him being off and on. His Mars is conjunct your sun: quote: With Sun conjunct Mars in synastry, there is a real physical connection between the two that generally presents itself as sexual attraction and physical chemistry. There is a true feeling of progressiveness and energy between the two of you. The potential to both challenge each other and frustrate each other, as discussed above, is somewhat high, but generally you both feel that you are headed somewhere with each other, and your personal energy cycles are boosted as the result of interaction with your partner. Sexual attraction is very high. Both feel the other person is their "type", and each tends to get a real ego boost and energy buzz from their partner. Arguments tend to be highly personal and subjective. The biggest complaint from the Mars person is that the Sun person is too judgmental or self-righteous, while the Sun person finds Mars overly defensive. Touchiness is probably the biggest problem between the two of you. Each of you knows how to push the other's buttons, and the attraction between you is spunky.
http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry/sun_mars.html And there are good feelings from your Jupiter trine his Venus and Mars, especially if your Jupiter is conjunct his moon. But your Saturn square his sun is a tough pill to swallow. Linda Goodman says this is extremely binding and also difficult. Then, your Pluto and Mars square his sun. It might just feel like too much pressure to him. Your sun square his Uranus can feel good or bad...or both...Venus in Aquarius enjoys unpredictability, but this may feel like too much of a good thing. He has sun conjunct Jupiter, sextile Saturn...he has a pretty "easy" chart. So do you. But the synastry is not exactly easy. The composite chart shows the nature of the relationship itself. You two have a nice composite with Aquarius sun conjunct Venus, more or less sextile the composite Sag planets, possibly trine the Libra moon. The air-fire emphasis of the chart matches your own natal chart better than his, and the relationship may be more appealing to you because of that. His birth time could change the picture a lot; if his natal IC or DSC is conjunct the composite sun-Venus, for example, that would make the relationship feel more right to him. The composite chart has Mercury square Pluto which can deepen your mental connection while making it weirdly difficult to talk, difficult to openly share your ideas. His sun is conjunct composite Mercury, your Mercury conjunct the composite sun. Seems you may both associate the relationship with talking, and when talking is strained, everything feels off. So he may decline dinner invitations because that requires him to talk a lot (? just guessing) I'm not an expert by any means...but to me it looks like this would be a physically enjoyable, in some ways RIGHT, but otherwise tricky relationship. I think you'll just have to see? The Uranus involvement here makes it very hard to predict what will happen next. I think you both may secretly want it that way?
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YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 7122 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted November 13, 2015 04:13 PM
This is a male, Capricorn three ways: Sun, Mercury and Mars. Leave him alone. If he respects you and likes you, he will come to you with a vengeance. He will close the deal instantly if he wants to. Otherwise, don't bother and just move on.IP: Logged |
Septembergirl Knowflake Posts: 374 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted November 13, 2015 05:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways: This is a male, Capricorn three ways: Sun, Mercury and Mars. Leave him alone. If he respects you and likes you, he will come to you with a vengeance. He will close the deal instantly if he wants to. Otherwise, don't bother and just move on.
I'm having a similar experience with a cap male and I was afraid that what you are saying ⬆️ may be the case, YoursTrulyAlways. IP: Logged |
maggie Newflake Posts: 23 From: Registered: Aug 2015
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posted November 13, 2015 05:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways: This is a male, Capricorn three ways: Sun, Mercury and Mars. Leave him alone. If he respects you and likes you, he will come to you with a vengeance. He will close the deal instantly if he wants to. Otherwise, don't bother and just move on.
Yeah, I agree with Septembergirl. Noooo.... Please don't let this be true. Haha. :P Having such passive (Caps, Scorpio, Pisces) signs, wouldn't that make him not want to make a move instead? IP: Logged |
Septembergirl Knowflake Posts: 374 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted November 13, 2015 05:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by maggie: Yeah, I agree with Septembergirl. Noooo.... Please don't let this be true. Haha. :PHaving such passive (Caps, Scorpio, Pisces) signs, wouldn't that make him not want to make a move instead?
I just think he can't make a decision...and I'm not going to make a decision in spite of myself. Or maybe all along, I have confused him being polite with something more. Maybe he's just a politician be personality.
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maggie Newflake Posts: 23 From: Registered: Aug 2015
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posted November 13, 2015 05:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: So, his Mars and Venus are square Uranus. That explains a lot about him being off and on.The biggest complaint from the Mars person is that the Sun person is too judgmental or self-righteous, while the Sun person finds Mars overly defensive. Touchiness is probably the biggest problem between the two of you. Each of you knows how to push the other's buttons, and the attraction between you is spunky.
Whoa! Thanks Faith! That really explains a lot. <3  Lol @ being too judgmental. He hasn't said anything but I feel this to be true, I do have opinions. And I don't want to shy away from it because I want to be authentic. I do find him overly defensive indeed! Haha. We push each other's buttons a lot. He started it first though, he is quite critical of what I do but always in a teasing way. Can you tell me more about the Mars and Venus square Uranus being off and on bit?  IP: Logged |
Seimei Knowflake Posts: 1068 From: n2thedust Registered: Apr 2015
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posted November 13, 2015 07:50 PM
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YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 7122 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted November 13, 2015 09:33 PM
I'm speaking as a man. Not to make too fine a point of what I say. Just that I'm more advanced in age and I'm sharing my male inner thoughts.Do not construe non-communication with passivity. It's more of a cold and calculating thing. Inside the mind, the neurons are working over time. Don't confuse non-expression with unintelligent. Never underestimate the potential for deviousness. However, not all guys are bad. They are just picky and more of the quiet, observing type. Not flamboyant, for sure. I'm in my 50s and have been married 22 years. I know flamboyance and expression. I married a Leo. You can ask me anything at anytime. IP: Logged |
Cappi112 Knowflake Posts: 409 From: New York, New York, USA Registered: May 2015
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posted November 14, 2015 07:56 AM
Really, all I can do is offer my own Cap experience again (plus the Cap boyfriend experience I've had).What I notice, other than Synastry placements, is that you describe the awkwardness and getting shy thing when you guys do get together. I haaate to put it this way, but there is a sort of unfair cycle that happens with us caps:we are forgiving and open minded of others and try not to put too much judgment on the time we spend with people, BUT... we also do internalize how it feels. It's very hard to feel like someone can't get comfortable around us. It makes us feel responsible somehow for making the other person feel okay, which then makes US feel awkward and pressured, which wrecks the whole thing. I know you get nervous - it's clear from these posts too - so my advice to you is to hold off on pursuing this guy at ALL until he makes clear he wants to. Coming from someone who has both been dumped for not seeming like I Was interested enough in someone (me being a cap) and as someone who once dumped my cap boyfriend for not seeming interested in me... a Capricorn, once let go of for that purpose, will rise to the occasion so you know they ARE if they are. But, a lack of confidence is going to be the biggest relationship deal-breaker no matter what. It is sexy as hell when I'm dating someone who knows I'm into him. It becomes a part of the foreplay half the time - yeah you know I love and want you, I know you love and want me, let's go crazy for each other baby... etc. (I'm exaggerating. But it does feel this way a lot of the time). He's 'waffling' because he isn't sure he wants you. Caps do get cold, but not that consistently, especially if they really want to be with you at core. That doesn't mean he WON"T be, but also, we take years sometimes to decide we want to really be with someone. It's exhausting. After reading your posts, I'd say you should back off a lot - like, disappear for a little while. Date other guys (without making him jealous - make it for you, so you keep your confidence up. Don't tell him unless he asks. Keep things light and flirty with him). If he asks why you've pulled back just say "it just seemed like maybe you weren't sure or weren't really into it, so I figured I'd keep my options open..." This does two things: shows you aren't going to push him to be ready for something he isn't, and also lets him know you're not gonna just wait around on him while he disregards how awesome you are and decides to be with you. If he's really yours, he will then make it known. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 14309 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 14, 2015 09:35 AM
Cappi  I'm curious about your Venus and moon signs? And which houses? quote: He's 'waffling' because he isn't sure he wants you. Caps do get cold, but not that consistently, especially if they really want to be with you at core. That doesn't mean he WON"T be, but also, we take years sometimes to decide we want to really be with someone. It's exhausting.
That was sometimes true for me. I think I've said before here, my first boyfriend was a Capricorn. He made it known that he liked me as soon as he saw me. My answer was an adamant NO WAY. This was high school  Well he just acted like that didn't happen. Unbelievable. No matter how much I told people that I actively disliked him, (so please stop pushing the matter!), he just treated me like he loved me. He'd write me these hilarious notes, come up and ask how I was doing with genuine concern, compliment me all the time. At track meets he would watch my whole event. And he was cool about it, not stalker-y. It's like time didn't exist for him, he didn't care how long this took, he was in it for the long haul. Well that's Saturn for you. I think he just innately understood that sometimes important things take a long time. I guess I was spoiled or conditioned through that, because later I expected a few other guys to be able to sustain interest in me for a long time while I tried to make up my mind. Uh....needless to say, I was naive. IP: Logged |
Cappi112 Knowflake Posts: 409 From: New York, New York, USA Registered: May 2015
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posted November 15, 2015 05:06 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: Cappi  I'm curious about your Venus and moon signs? And which houses? That was sometimes true for me. I think I've said before here, my first boyfriend was a Capricorn. He made it known that he liked me as soon as he saw me. My answer was an adamant NO WAY. This was high school  Well he just acted like that didn't happen. Unbelievable. No matter how much I told people that I actively disliked him, (so please stop pushing the matter!), he just treated me like he loved me. He'd write me these hilarious notes, come up and ask how I was doing with genuine concern, compliment me all the time. At track meets he would watch my whole event. And he was cool about it, not stalker-y. It's like time didn't exist for him, he didn't care how long this took, he was in it for the long haul. Well that's Saturn for you. I think he just innately understood that sometimes important things take a long time. I guess I was spoiled or conditioned through that, because later I expected a few other guys to be able to sustain interest in me for a long time while I tried to make up my mind. Uh....needless to say, I was naive.
Aww... that also reminds me of my current guy too. Whenever I've walked away (for reasons that were very much my own), he pursued with abandon. I'd say "I cannot talk to you anymore"... and he'd listen for maybe a week and then he was flying across the world to my city during the summer and texting me hoping I would meet up with him. Everyone said to me "See? You made the right call dumping him - he can't even respect your WISHES that he leave you alone!" While I secretly fell deeper in love with him for being the first guy I've dated to actually see through the wall I was putting up and try to break it down. One day recently he asked me why he was the one for me, and I said that: "You're the only guy who has never given up, even when I begged you to." It may sound crazy dysfunctional to everyone else, and I never meant that as a test, but that's what makes me certain there's no one like him in my life. ANYWAY, my Moon sign is in Libra, in my 8th house, conjunct his moon in his 10th house (his moon in Virgo, however, just on the cusp of Libra). His moon, being just that slight degree or two over in Virgo, therefore overlays my 7th house. So, emotionally speaking, he is the partner I feel most bonded to. Venus-wise, mine is in Pisces, in the 1st House, his is in Scorpio, on the cusp of his 12th and 1st house (practically right on his AC. Making him crazy handsome). Our Venuses trine.
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