posted November 28, 2015 02:43 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
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I have had those things pop up in synastry

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I meant all the three together!

Like for instance, we have:

Sun sextile Sun
Mercury sextile Mercury
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Venus sextile Venus
(So we have all of them, not just one)

posted November 28, 2015 02:52 AM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
I meant all the three together!

Like for instance, we have:

Sun sextile Sun
Mercury sextile Mercury
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Venus sextile Venus
(So we have all of them, not just one)

plus the Moon trine Moon...

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posted November 28, 2015 02:55 AM            

Can you post the synastry?

posted November 28, 2015 03:07 AM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Really?

Can you post the synastry?

Was this the Libra girl?

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posted November 28, 2015 03:27 AM              

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Originally posted by appleberry:
I think astrology is always right, just one interpreters are better than others.

I hope you find your faith again. You shouldn't feel bad about setting things down and just living life without astrology always in the back of your mind. It is appropriate at different times in our lives to do that.

I'm sure we all come and go at different times in our lives. But, it has been around since the beginning of time... There's a reason for that.

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Hiyah!
If you can show me why astrology or any other path is completely accurate when one goes simply by knowledge of astrology or said path and seemingly nothing else; I'll have to backtrack everything I've gathered while existing in one way or the next. Not going to excuse my sarcasm here because, weellll... What if I showed you a chart and you had it 100% down and calculated to a "T" only to discover that the chart belonged to a still birth innocent? Yes, there is a reason, but it's beyond my personal understanding of astrology or life... Life, the gift Which has truly been around since the beginning of time because life is let's say organic. ...
Sooo, going by this; when you state astrology has been around since the beginning of time; can you clarify this please?

posted November 28, 2015 07:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Good for you shyberry.

Astrology is not a matter of 'faith.' A positive attitude and the development of useful, practical intuition will take you a lot farther with more groundedness than constant horoscope watching.

If people approach astrology as a 'need to know' thing they cannot do without, then they have already slipped from the middle path of free will into some sort of dependency.

Most of what you are describing is attributable to people, not the sincere and open study of astrology itself. Don't let others' attitudes or behaviors steer you from something you are drawn to. If it is yours, it is yours for your own reasons.

Many people seem to use astrology as a replacement for religion. A large fraction of followers/students of astrology and its practitioners are of that bent. They place their need for 'belief' into it, and follow it as fervently as a religious zealot would.

Astrology is just nature. It is okay to come to a place where you question its role for you or whether it is worth your time. Maybe you can conduct your own controlled study. Ignore it for an extended period of time. If you have no life challenges that cannot be met without it, then you don't need it. Even Edgar Cayce said that astrology is effective for 80% of people, not everyone. Yet, you normally see the all-or-nothing, if it affects me it affects everyone thinking.

Not me.

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posted November 28, 2015 12:19 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Huh???? A synastry is all about the aspects and house placements. What else is there? When I say good synastry I mean what I say. My perception of what constitutes good synastry is not flawed. And I clearly outlined what i'm talking about in an earlier post.... If I look at a synastry and I see sun/moon double whammy, moon/venus, venus/mars,nodal contacts, conjunctions to angles, and good house placements (planets falling in 1st,4th,5th,7th,8th,9th,11th) etc. etc. That's good synastry.

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posted November 28, 2015 01:30 PM            

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Originally posted by shyberry:
Wow, thank you SO much everyone for replying. I didn't expect such a good turnout, but all of your answers are incredible. I'll find time to reply to all of them later this week. Also my moon is 22 pisces so the Saturn square hasn't hit it yet.

With the mention of freewill in Astrology, please tell me what you think of this: http://depthastrology2.com/FateFreeWill.html

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Jupiter at 21 degrees of Virgo is already hitting your moon by opposition. Jupiter hard aspects to moon symbolize issues with faith, difficulties in maintaining emotional balance. This would hit a Pisces moon especially hard because Jupiter rules Pisces.

posted November 28, 2015 04:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
Just so I understand, you're saying that you have met girls with whom you have double whammy , moon/venus, venus/mars,nodal contacts, conjunctions to angles, and good house placements (planets falling in 1st,4th,5th,7th,8th,9th,11th) and they were not attracted to you?

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posted November 28, 2015 06:48 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:

No, I'm saying they didn't care for me period. I'm well past the point of believing astrology can predict attraction. Why? Because you can have romantic and sexual aspects with friends and family. So I don't expect that a girl will like me in a romantic way if we have good synastry, but I would expect her to like me and find our connection significant (if I believed in synastry ) and that just doesn't happen. That's why I don't put stock in synastry.

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Very interesting. I have yet to see cases such as yours but if you say they exist, I will take your word for it.

A few months ago while working as a volunteer, I spent 1 very intense and draining day with a particular woman and I didn't find out until the day was over that she was born on the exact same day as a man who was for many years the love of my life. Exact same day! All the planetary aspects were the same, but I theorize that the ascendant must have made the difference between how I related to this woman and how I related to the man.

posted November 28, 2015 07:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
Very interesting. I have yet to see cases such as yours but if you say they exist, I will take your word for it.

A few months ago while working as a volunteer, I spent 1 very intense and draining day with a particular woman and I didn't find out until the day was over that she was born on the exact same day as a man who was for many years the love of my life. Exact same day! All the planetary aspects were the same, but I theorize that the ascendant must have made the difference between how I related to this woman and how I related to the man.

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Or it could have been down to the fact that the energies had manifested differently in her thanthey did him, resulting in you responding to her differently that him.

Ascendant is a good point though!

posted November 28, 2015 07:34 PM            

The letters you see at the peaks represent major news headlines influencing related online searches.

Google trends for the search term "horoscope" have been basically flat for a decade:

So at best its popularity has remained flat.
http://www.google.com/trends/

posted November 28, 2015 08:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Sven555:
Or it could have been down to the fact that the energies had manifested differently in her thanthey did him, resulting in you responding to her differently that him.

Ascendant is a good point though!

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I think if you look at 2 people born on the same day, the difference in ascendant would make the planetary aspects fall in different houses and this makes a HUGE difference in the way these 2 people will live their lives, how they utilize the energies of the planets and how they relate to others. Example, someone with Saturn falling in the 8th house vs someone with Saturn falling in the 3rd house: 2 different people, 2 different lifepaths.

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posted November 28, 2015 08:45 PM            

People feel that astrology is not a science so it must be bogus but it is a mix of science and art. Art has to come into play since every individual is unique as our experiences impact gene expression like the theory of Epigenetics shows us...

So to me astrology is our Genes but the environment will impact the expression of our genes and that will be different for each individual as many variables are at play in our development. This is why astrology is so complex and as a result so easy to put aside and simply label it as bogus or put it in the religion category when the problem is that people don't understand it.

posted November 28, 2015 09:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
@AG

Yeah but I predicted that girl's Mars was conjunct your sun and I was right....

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posted November 28, 2015 09:32 PM            

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Sorry, but I have to disagree. I don't think anyone would flat out google "Astrology"- it's too simple and brings up websites that only talk about sun signs and horoscopes.

The trend for "birth chart" isn't too spectacular either, but "What is my ascendant?" is on the rise. I'm guessing you don't frequent Tumblr (gross website), but a lot of posts and blogs on there are geared towards astrology which wasn't really the case back in, say, 2011.

posted November 28, 2015 09:49 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Lucky guess. Also, you guessed that after I described her behavior towards me. That's the only time synastry seems accurate, in retrospect.

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Right, her behavior matched "Mars conjunct sun" synastry, hence my guess.

I just can't believe you really seriously gave up on synastry.

Especially since you still believe in natal charts. And you've liked many Libra suns. Chances are you will keep that up, right? Or are you just going to ignore similarities amongst people?

posted November 28, 2015 11:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Right, her behavior matched "Mars conjunct sun" synastry, hence my guess.

I just can't believe you really seriously gave up on synastry.

Especially since you still believe in natal charts. And you've liked many Libra suns. Chances are you will keep that up, right? Or are you just going to ignore similarities amongst people?

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posted November 29, 2015 08:24 AM            

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Originally posted by shyberry:
Hello all, I hope you are doing well and have enjoyed your Thanksgiving! (If you celebrate it)

Astrology continues to rise in popularity and more celebrities are willing to share their birth time with no question. I've only come across 2 that I care about who have given their birth times out, but I'm sure there are more. Both Lana Del Rey and Jhene Aiko are astrology lovers. Two of my friends are also into natal astrology and talk about it a lot. A potential therapist I plan on going to next month also talks about it on his Facebook.

I've always liked astrology and felt upset when people would write long articles on "why Mars rising doesn't mean anything." I'd quickly skim through the comments that say, "These astrology lovers are no better than religious nuts." and promptly roll my eyes and forget I ever read those things.

Seeing Jhene and Lana share their birth chart information stroked an odd chord within me. Hearing my friends mope over their "bad" synastry with their crushes made me feel even more odd.

"Aw, his sun is square my moon?! Oh well, I'll just fantasize." "My Mars is conjunct his moon?! I don't want to be an abuser..." "My daughter's moon is afflicted! Will I be a bad mother?!" --> Seeing things like this online really makes me wonder.

When I read more articles about what makes good synastry or how to tell if you'll be rich from your natal chart, I feel slightly disgusted. My friend said, "Your moons are compatible so you'll get along." when I told her who my crush was. I thought to myself, "Damn she sounds stupid."

My faith in astrology has been wavering for quite some time. It started with Mercury retrograde. I firmly believe Mercury going retrograde affects nothing and laugh when I get emails from astrological newsletters I subscribed to saying, "Mercury's retrograde! Here's how you can live through it!"

I posted something about Transit Saturn in my 12th house when I first joined this website, but then I realized I've never "felt" a transit. If I see Neptune squaring my Mars, I don't see "impending doom". I don't see anything. Nothing good happens during beautiful Jupiter transits and nothing bad happens during Saturn transits. Life just IS. At least that is how it is for me.

The point of this long post is that since more people are talking about astrology, it makes me feel that it is pointless and even a bit delusional to put so much weight on the planets. Maybe I am just around the wrong people who believe that astrology is the answer for everything. Astrology has helped me gain a small amount of confidence in myself and I studied it A LOT in the past, but now I feel angry when I hear people say that the planets affect us.

Much of what is said for Moon in Pisces (my position) can also be applied to Venus in Pisces, Sun conjunct Neptune, Neptune in 1st house...so it lessens all of these planetary aspects and positions since they're all so similar. Moon square Mars = temper, but Mars conjunct Pluto also ='s temper?

Has anyone had their faith waver only for it to come back? As much as I'm starting to loathe it, without Astrology, I feel like a big part of me will be gone.

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It is ok to question everything and i can simpathyze with your feelings. however, it seems to me that the problem comes out of reading too much of superficial astrology, which has not go in deth into the nature of planets, houses, aspects, etc... then you can see nuances and differentiate between moon versus venus in piscis to give an example.. or venus in 12... i would recommend books such as for example LIZ GREENE or go into the mithology of planets or whatever makes you to understan in depth planets, aspects and houses and the overall picture of rulers, etc..

i believe astrology is complex. and internet has made it available for most, but has made it also more superficial as nowawadays almost everybody think they can be astrologers. I have been learning for many years on my own and i have never considered myself an astrologer. but the more i learn, the more it makes sense to me. what it does not make sense is the superficial way or cooked book way of interpretation..

posted November 29, 2015 08:41 AM            

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Originally posted by polkadotstars:
I kind of get in those moods too. There's some things I don't identify with in my chart and I don't see true in other people's charts as well.

And it is hard for me to fathom the reasoning of Astrology. It sounds completely illogical to me that one's personality is based off of where planets are when they are born. It sounds so irrational. And I have no good explanation for it either.

However, I have noticed lately that I can usually pinpoint someone's sun or moon sign within minutes of talking to them. It's almost a game to me now and I laugh when I'm correct about it. And that is when I am reminded that astrology is somehow accurate. Even though I am not sure how or why.. but it is. :-)

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