posted December 02, 2015 03:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Yes I'm not saying that a planet inside the 1H by one degree is super obvious, and a 12H planet one degree from the ASC is invisible. But I respect the ASC as a cut-off point, and don't want to feel like people are considering me a liar when I say I have 12H Saturn.

I mean, why be weird.

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Have people considered you to be lying about having a 12th house Saturn then?

Also, all I said was that I agreed with your comments about planets in close promixity with the ASC. I wasn't trying to call your bluff

posted December 02, 2015 05:21 AM            

I often think that Saturn in this house can also make one driven to get a qualification. To be the smartest, brightest and most well-read etc.

A person that I know with Saturn here is very critical of those whom are educated or have mainstream qualifications but (in his opinion) know vey little.

Even without a formal education,the Saturn placement in this house may motivate one to self-educate. Or risk living with the shame of not being "on par"(academically) with their peers.

posted December 02, 2015 08:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Cappi112:
I'm a 9H Saturn, but I have always been able to find God, and had an extremely fruitful/busy college education (and then graduate school). I would expect this to have more to do with working internationally, in foreign places? My career has led me all over the world in this case... Just curious.

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Yes, the 9th House has to do with travel and things delaying with travel and struggles, too.

Did you have this?

To me, if your Saturn has NO bearing on the House, your time of birth may be off.

However, many Houses have several areas of domain, so your issue could be with one of the other, as in the 9th House which is long distance travel, as well as higher ed and spirituality.

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posted December 02, 2015 08:32 AM            

With some people I have seen with the 11th House Saturn, groups seem to be a scary place for them.

I would love more reports on this, though.

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posted December 02, 2015 08:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I wonder. Did you experience delays in getting your formal qualification? Or was there a psychological fear of being/staying academically limited?

I often think that Saturn in this house can also make one driven to get a qualification. To be the smartest, brightest and most well-read etc.

A person that I know with Saturn here is very critical of those whom are educated or have mainstream qualifications but (in his opinion) know vey little.

Even without a formal education,the Saturn placement in this house may motivate one to self-educate. Or risk living with the shame of not being "on par"(academically) with their peers.

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The 9th House is my Gemini stellium--Sun, Mercury, Venus, SN.

This is not Saturn but I love to educate myself on all sorts of things.

It is a passion.

posted December 02, 2015 08:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Yes, the 9th House has to do with travel and things delaying with travel and struggles, too.

Did you have this?

To me, if your Saturn has NO bearing on the House, your time of birth may be off.

However, many Houses have several areas of domain, so your issue could be with one of the other, as in the 9th House which is long distance travel, as well as higher ed and spirituality.

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Does Saturn always have to mean a delay? My take has always been that it is more about responsibility than simply delaying things. Which made its placement VERY obvious to me in my chart, as I have had to travel for performances ever since I was a kid just starting out.

I've almost never had any travel delays.

posted December 02, 2015 09:02 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I wonder. Did you experience delays in getting your formal qualification? Or was there a psychological fear of being/staying academically limited?

I often think that Saturn in this house can also make one driven to get a qualification. To be the smartest, brightest and most well-read etc.

A person that I know with Saturn here is very critical of those whom are educated or have mainstream qualifications but (in his opinion) know vey little.

Even without a formal education,the Saturn placement in this house may motivate one to self-educate. Or risk living with the shame of not being "on par"(academically) with their peers.

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Aries, who is this for? It came right after mine so wasn't sure if this was about 9H? And if so, that is an astonishingly accurate description of what I have done in my life.

posted December 02, 2015 09:06 AM            

Saturn makes one WORK for what it gives one.

It will give one rewards but there will be struggle for those rewards in the manner of a child raking leaves and being paid an allowance lol

If there are no struggles with Saturn's House, I would think there would be something wrong, as far as time, perhaps.

To me, certain planets should fit Houses. Two of these are Saturn and Chiron, although all planets should really fit the Houses when the chart is done accurately.

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posted December 02, 2015 09:42 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Cappi

Saturn makes one WORK for what it gives one.

It will give one rewards but there will be struggle for those rewards in the manner of a child raking leaves and being paid an allowance lol

If there are no struggles with Saturn's House, I would think there would be something wrong, as far as time, perhaps.

To me, certain planets should fit Houses. Two of these are Saturn and Chiron, although all planets should really fit the Houses when the chart is done accurately.

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posted December 02, 2015 02:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Cappi112:
Aries, who is this for? It came right after mine so wasn't sure if this was about 9H? And if so, that is an astonishingly accurate description of what I have done in my life.

Taught myself to sing, taught myself French 15 years later when I was performing in Paris, and always competitive about being at least as intelligent as my friends...

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It was meant for you Cappi 112

posted December 02, 2015 03:47 PM            

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posted December 02, 2015 06:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Yes, the 9th House has to do with travel and things delaying with travel and struggles, too.

Did you have this?

To me, if your Saturn has NO bearing on the House, your time of birth may be off.

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Not necessarily, aspects or other planets dominating could come out on top and null and void a typical interpretation of a planet in a house.

posted December 02, 2015 06:15 PM            

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1st House
Depending on aspects, one may be very disciplined or one may have low self esteem. Saturn in trine and sextile confers discipline. Saturn in square, conjunction and opposition may result in lack of confidence and self esteem.[/B]

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I have it in the 1st house conjunct asc.

Highly disciplined, yes.

Knowing what I should do, when I should. I have never broken the rules I follow. It's internalized. It feels like natural impulses. It feels effortless...

I think my self esteem is healthy. I' the queen of my own life, and only a humble grain of sand in this world.

Ime, 1st house saturn feels like having to continuously building the "self".

posted December 02, 2015 06:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Isa:
Ami, is there a thread for Jupiter through the houses?

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That will be my next request, Isa and Thank you

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posted December 02, 2015 07:31 PM            

I see Saturn as a place in the chart where the person is a creature of habit.
And success depends on whether they develop positive habits or detrimental ones.

Because once you fall into a certain pattern - Saturn can keep you in that pattern of behaviour for years on end.

For instance, with my placement - Saturn in 6th... If you start swimming every day for a few months, you'll probably still do it when you are 80 years old.

posted December 02, 2015 08:33 PM            

Why doesn't everyone write what they like about their Saturn's House.

To me, I can't see the good in 5, 8 and 12.

I am not trying to be contentious, just that these Saturn placements seem super painful.

There can be good in pain, of course, but no one wants it lol

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posted December 02, 2015 09:26 PM            

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Originally posted by madelineleo23:
Saturn (Pisces) in the third. It's true. I'm not very confident in my expressing my opinions especially in a debate. I just sit quietly and let everyone else talk. Especially in class when we are encouraged to participate. I have A LOT to say but I am afraid that people will laugh or make fun of my responses.

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Great report. Thank you, M!

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posted December 03, 2015 03:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I have an idea, so Odette does not have to do all the work lol

Why doesn't everyone write what they like about their Saturn's House.

To me, I can't see the good in 5, 8 and 12.

I am not trying to be contentious, just that these Saturn placements seem super painful.

There can be good in pain, of course, but no one wants it lol

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posted December 03, 2015 05:04 AM            

Saturn in 8th is not that terrible now.

It most certainly was that way when I was young. As I did feel anxious about sex and the added peer pressure to just "do it" from others- so that I don't appear less "cool".

I have however,also learned a few embarrassing lessons with this placement

-I lost my virginity pretty late by most standards. I was 21

-Though very cautious,I once contracted a disease that took a great deal of time to heal.

-I always thought that my member was a little small. Had to work around my issues with that

The relationship with my father(Saturn) was always very challenging. It lacked the intimacy and closeness that I longed for from a same sex parent. As I always felt that he "capped" it.

And it is also likely that in his passing, he will leave us with a lot of debts(Saturn in 8th). As he is very secretive,cagey and dodgy with his financial woes

Those were the not so great stuff.

The good stuff about this placements is that it does get better.

Financially,I am so responsible that I have never had debt problems.

People often say that Saturn here will cause banks not to lend you money? This has not been my experience.

My bank is always telling me the numerous loans I qualify for-based on my financial record. So they do see me as responsible and trustworthy(Saturn) to pay them back.

Saturn in 8th is anxious about intimacy when young. But when they get over that fear(which is usually psychologically based), they can aim to be the most intimate partner that one can ever have

Because they have studied, pondered and labored on the 8th house issues. They usually become experts at them and may even take issues connected to this house as a profession(Saturn). or be consulted by others because of their expertise etc.

For me, sex is getting better as I gain more confidence over myself and my ability to discern what is pleasurable and what is not.

And this is not just for me. But also or my partner. As my SO consistently comments on how "thorough" I am in bed

posted December 03, 2015 05:27 AM            

Saturn in the 5th could become a professional artist and earn good money through their form of art.
Any other placement in the 5th would not have the commitment for this... So actually Saturn in the 5th is one of the *most* likely placements to make a career out of art.

^ In a world where every second person wants to be famous, but so many don't make it... a 5th house Saturn could be a blessing in disguise
But, as always - it would also depend on the sign it is in and how well it is aspected!

Saturn in the 8th could be a psychologist... or sex-therapist?

And Saturn in the 12th would feel a strong connection to God - They would have strong and unwavering faith. Believing in one's spiritual ideals with so much conviction, makes life easier in a sense.