posted December 19, 2015 09:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Lunar Pisces:
Trump is a vile racist goon and exploitative fearmonger as well as shameless greedy bullying sociopath who is more acquainted with divorce, elitism and bankruptcy than the Constitution. He wants to be president of this country yet has no respect for its founding principles of religious liberty. He would happily exploit Americans' racism, smallmindedness and fear to get what he wants--power. He's appalling and I cannot believe anyone here at a site honoring Linda would like him let alone call him their hero. that Ami considers him a hero is hardly surprising though. She's vile, exploitive and bigoted herself, from what I've seen on her own site and here. She comes here to feed off off people's generosity, honesty and kindness here and pushes her own brand of narrowmindeness. She must be a nasty person irl to think Trump is admirable. Just gross.

I don't care what anyone think about be polite here. We are beyond politeness with Trump and Trump worship. Trump wants to deny Americans their rights based on their religion, he wants to gain power riding people's hatred and bigotry, his rhetoric is feuling acts of violence and terrorism against Muslims in this country and IT IS INTOLERABLE TO ANY DECENT HUMAN BEING THAT HE SHOULD BE CALLED A HERO. Racism is evil. Using racism to gain power is beyond evil.

If anyone wants to know the deeply toxic impact Trump is having on good, decent Americans who happened to be Muslim, follow author Saladin Ahmed's twitter. He has been very honest of how Islamophobia and racism has always effective his life as an American, something every American needs to understand. It's shameful any American has to deal with this and we all should be angry that it happens.

And Ami, learn some empathy, if you can. It will help you grasp why Trump is no hero.

That said, I'm done with this site. Too many toxic, parasitic people here.

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Muslim isn't a race.

posted December 19, 2015 09:36 PM            

Also, we Right wingers want Hispanics here, just legally.

Blessings to you, my Friend.

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posted December 19, 2015 09:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[b]Muslim isn't a race.

Also, we Right wingers want Hispanics here, just legally.

Blessings to you, my Friend.

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Haha, thanks! I do think that Lunar Pisces has good points, but I was trying to keep this thread from being too one-sided, or heated.

posted December 19, 2015 09:42 PM            

The empty houses signify spheres of life that are not as important for the native, as are those of the occupied houses.

In the fourth house, we find his Sagittarius Moon, by it's lonesome.

It is interesting that Mr Trump has a fiery, devil may care Moon in the deep, insular fourth House, ruled by Cancer.

I am a Cancer Moon, so can speak on this subject. Home and family are our number one priority.

One can observe Mr Trump's life and see how he loves his family.

The Sagittarius Moon surprises me, although I can see hints of it. He has a marvelous sense of humor, which is classic to any Sagittarius placement.

He has a light hearted manner in which he does not take himself too seriously. This is, also, classic to Sagittarius.

Sagittarius loves to travel and is a Don Juan. We can say he is guilty of both, if one wants to use the word guilty.

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posted December 19, 2015 09:50 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
At the forefront of the American cultural and sociopolitical psyche is the free and open expression of ideas, ideals and opinions. Freedom of thought is the progenitor of other liberties, not limited to speech, religion and expression. The right to freedom to hold opinions without prejudice or interference is God ordained and provided in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights at the United Nations, and thus applies to every signatory nation, including and not limited to the U.S. and all countries of the E.U. and British Commonwealth.

Aka. Disagree if you will. In the American vernacular, "don't got nothing good to say, then don't say nothing."

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Right now, we still have freedom of speech. Hope we don't lose it lol

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posted December 19, 2015 10:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Right now, we still have freedom of speech. Hope we don't lose it lol

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Most colleges/universities seem very Left leaning. And they sure don't want us to make too much of a ruckus with our words.

posted December 19, 2015 10:31 PM            

Let's look at the good/favorable aspects first. Mr Trump has a lovely Jupiter sextile the Moon. This shows us his personal warmth, which he has in spades, in my opinion.

This aspect would make him popular and well liked by others. For all of his years in business, few people have a bad word to say about him. This is a rarity.

He has Moon trine Mars, which I mentioned earlier, so will refer you to that.

Mr Trump has an interesting quincunx of Moon and Saturn at two degrees. This quincunx is more important in the chart of an earth void because it imparts grounding.

I have a Moon/Saturn trine at the wide orb of seven degrees. I wish it were closer but it does provide me with discipline and grounding, although I do crave more!

For Mr Trump, he is able to discipline his emotions, although it may not be easy. The quincunx is the aspect of a struggle which CAN be overcome.

In my personal opinion, an opposition and a square cannot be overcome, per se. One can work around them. However, they do not really change, in the manner of eye color. One is born with blue eyes and one dies with blue eyes.

Many people disagree with me and that is fine with me. This is my opinion, at present. I am, always, open to change but that change would result from doing charts, not people throwing asparagus at me.

Now onto the hard/unfavorable/bad aspects. Mr Trump has a close Moon oppose the Sun and North Node. He has a four degree Moon/Uranus opposition. In these few aspects, we can understand a great deal about Mr Trump.

First of all, Moon oppose Sun tells us that his parents were not close at the time of his birth. It tells us that he has a war between his head/ego and his heart. The war is a yin/yang war. By this, I mean that he see-saws from one to the other, but cannot really find a peaceful sense of balance.

Picture a see-saw when studying an opposition. One person is up. Then, the other person is up and the previous person is down. The see-saw does not really stay in the balanced state. It is an either/or proposition. In the same manner, this native would want to act on his heart. Then, he may see the folly of this and pull back, entirely, and act on his head. This dynamic continues, in the manner of the see-saw. Hence, it is a struggle.

The Moon oppose North Node provides us with a wealth of information.

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posted December 19, 2015 10:32 PM            

I know about the left leaning. It is very sad to me.

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posted December 19, 2015 10:40 PM            

Picture a see-saw when studying an opposition. One person is up. Then, the other person is up and the previous person is down. The see-saw does not really stay in the balanced state. It is an either/or proposition. In the same manner, this native would want to act on his heart. Then, he may see the folly of this and pull back, entirely, and act on his head. This dynamic continues, in the manner of the see-saw. Hence, it is a struggle.

The Moon oppose North Node provides us with a wealth of information. Mr Trump's emotions fight his life purpose. It is very interesting to note that his Sun is conjunct his NN in the House of career. This tells us that he is very purposeful in the pursuit of his life goals. However, the Moon opposing this tells us that his heart does not, always, agree. In fact, his heart fights him. I think we could be confident in concluding that. At times, he has great drive for his life purpose. At times, he may want to go home and hide under the bed while the world passes him by. We know that he has a warm, maternal side by the fourth house placement of the Moon. I would not be surprised if he cooked or was involved in home decor. This side of him, one would not see unless one knew him well.

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posted December 19, 2015 10:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
@Sulky

I know about the left leaning. It is very sad to me.

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Yup, American colleges/universities!

posted December 19, 2015 10:58 PM              

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Originally posted by Lunar Pisces:
Trump is a vile racist goon and exploitative fearmonger as well as shameless greedy bullying sociopath who is more acquainted with divorce, elitism and bankruptcy than the Constitution. He wants to be president of this country yet has no respect for its founding principles of religious liberty. He would happily exploit Americans' racism, smallmindedness and fear to get what he wants--power. He's appalling and I cannot believe anyone here at a site honoring Linda would like him let alone call him their hero. that Ami considers him a hero is hardly surprising though. She's vile, exploitive and bigoted herself, from what I've seen on her own site and here. She comes here to feed off off people's generosity, honesty and kindness here and pushes her own brand of narrowmindeness. She must be a nasty person irl to think Trump is admirable. Just gross.

I don't care what anyone think about be polite here. We are beyond politeness with Trump and Trump worship. Trump wants to deny Americans their rights based on their religion, he wants to gain power riding people's hatred and bigotry, his rhetoric is feuling acts of violence and terrorism against Muslims in this country and IT IS INTOLERABLE TO ANY DECENT HUMAN BEING THAT HE SHOULD BE CALLED A HERO. Racism is evil. Using racism to gain power is beyond evil.

If anyone wants to know the deeply toxic impact Trump is having on good, decent Americans who happened to be Muslim, follow author Saladin Ahmed's twitter. He has been very honest of how Islamophobia and racism has always effective his life as an American, something every American needs to understand. It's shameful any American has to deal with this and we all should be angry that it happens.

And Ami, learn some empathy, if you can. It will help you grasp why Trump is no hero.

That said, I'm done with this site. Too many toxic, parasitic people here.

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Yikes I decided to give astrology a chance again at at interesting time

I completely and wholeheartedly agree with you. You have at least MY full support. Trump is incredibly racist, sexist and biogted against religion. Funny how he intends to discriminate against a certain religion when IT IS WRITTEN INTO THE AMERICAN CONSTITUTION WE ARE GRANTED FREEDOM ON RELIGION. Wow, so already, Trump is an unconstitutional POS.

He IS RACIST. If you can't see that, you are racist yourself or you are in serious denial. Looking at you ami. How do you feel about his racism? How do you feel about this? He openly attacks the black rights matter movement, a movement that wants to get rid of racism in college, a movement that wants to stop police violence against unarmed, innocent people.

Trump wants to build a wall. A WALL. How brave and heroic of him. (sarcasm) He wants to waste what little resources we have just to make the most inbred pieces of **** happy.

posted December 19, 2015 11:00 PM              

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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
Muslim isn't a race.

Also, we Right wingers want Hispanics here, just legally.

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If you right wingers are smart enough to realize what's good for the country, building a wall isn't it.

posted December 19, 2015 11:03 PM              

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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
Most colleges/universities seem very Left leaning. And they sure don't want us to make too much of a ruckus with our words.

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posted December 19, 2015 11:05 PM              

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
We are trying to stick to Mr Trump's chart and making a good effort in this direction. If you hate him, that is fine but not really the place to throw that out. Thanks!

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posted December 19, 2015 11:09 PM            

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posted December 19, 2015 11:14 PM            

Let me give some examples. Uranus conjunct the Sun would be classic for an inventor. Let's say the inventor of velcro. It is said that a sticky burr stuck on him and from this, he originated the concept of velcro. Think of the millions of people to whom sticky burrs adhered. Not one of them invented velcro. Hence, in this example, we can see the far reaching brilliance of Uranus.

Conversely, I have seen people with Sun conjunct Uranus torture themselves with their own thoughts. Think of electricity. It makes life wonderful. It is an invention of genius proportions but if you do not know how to handle it, it can result in your demise.

Uranus rules electricity.

I took a brief rabbit trail to say that the five degree orb in Mr Trump's Sun/Uranus conjunction is a blessing, versus a closer orb.

However, we are discussing Moon conjunct Uranus now.

This may show a mother who was not stable. It may show a struggle with his own emotions yin/yanging, as I described in the see-saw analogy.

Again, Mr Trump is fortunate to have a four degree orb which mitigates the intensity of this aspect, versus an exact orb, for example.

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posted December 19, 2015 11:16 PM              

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
People can give their opinions, if they are respectful. There is no need to be nasty in order to disagree about a political figure. Thanks

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You keep shutting down everyone that disagrees with you while flooding this thread with trump love. If you are allowed to praise him, we are allowed to put him down.

posted December 19, 2015 11:24 PM            

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posted December 19, 2015 11:33 PM            

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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
If you right wingers are smart enough to realize what's good for the country, building a wall isn't it.

Muslim isn't a race, it is a religion, and freedom of religion is the FIRST amendment. FIRST. AMENDMENT.

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I don't want him for president. I just said to Lunar Pisces that calling others racist for supporting someone else is name calling, and not a real argument.

Yes, I am right winged, but I'm too moderate even for their taste. And I don't agree with everything Trump says, which is why I won't be voting for him. I also don't agree with everything The Right says.

I'm just trying to keep this thread balanced, and cordial.

posted December 19, 2015 11:34 PM              

Yikes! What about the recent planned parenthood shooting? Guy was a christian shooting up in the name of god.

posted December 19, 2015 11:35 PM              

Another one from her page.

posted December 19, 2015 11:39 PM              

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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
I don't want him for president. I just said to Lunar Pisces that calling others racist for supporting someone else is name calling, and not a real argument.

Yes, I am right winged, but I'm too moderate even for their taste. And I don't agree with everything Trump says, which is why I won't be voting for him. I also don't agree with everything The Right says.

I'm just trying to keep this thread balanced, and cordial.

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