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lundan
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posted December 20, 2015 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lundan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I started this thread mainly because every virgo moon I have met seems intelligent and controlled, but then they surprise me when they start lying and I come to realize they're pathological liars.
4 people I have met or know who have a bad habit of lying happened to be virgo moons.
It doesnt make sense to me either which is why I am asking.
If your boyfriend does not have a history of lying, then why be suspicious, that's silly.
I tend to be more wary of virgos and libra since they get such a good record of being honest, charming, etc. It is those people you have to watch for, not the scorpios.
i'm a scorpio rising, full 8th house, etc. so I'm naturally suspicious and can sniff anyone out


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Originally posted by Cappi112:
Hmmm this is really bugging me.

In general, I wish we could avoid threads like this. I'm super easily-triggered (something I'm working on in general in my life right now), and since I always attributed my boyfriends' Virgo Moon as a sign of his logic and stability... this thread really sucks to read. Can more people explain why a virgo moon would even be a 'cause' of lying? It doesn't make ANY sense to me... Virgos are Earthy and generally very logical as sun signs... I would only expect the moon to show this in emotions.

It bugs me a lot that suddenly today, I'm all suspicious of my boyfriend who has been great, even though he has done nothing to make me feel that way- I just read this thread and suddenly got weird. Like, what are we supposed to do with this info? Just be suspicious and untrusting of anyone with a virgo moon? I'm not the type to go snooping through his stuff to see if he has been lying to me.

I'm just saying, between the bickering in this thread and the overall generalization, it is frustrating for me as a reader - I would hope we can find more constructive use of this kind of fear-driven posting.

Otherwise, there doesn't seem to be much point in opening the discussion. Except to drive suspicion for a whole group of people who don't deserve it.


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posted December 20, 2015 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lundan:

i'm a scorpio rising, full 8th house, etc. so I'm naturally suspicious and can sniff anyone out



Except for pathological liars, apparently.

Okay, I'll stop now.

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posted December 20, 2015 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lundan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think I'm very bad at sniffing out if you're trying to insult me because if that's what you're trying to do then you are epically failing.
If my thread was trying to give virgo moons a bad name, you did the job

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Originally posted by Violets:
Except for pathological liars, apparently.

Okay, I'll stop now.


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posted December 20, 2015 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cappi112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lundan:
I started this thread mainly because every virgo moon I have met seems intelligent and controlled, but then they surprise me when they start lying and I come to realize they're pathological liars.
4 people I have met or know who have a bad habit of lying happened to be virgo moons.
It doesnt make sense to me either which is why I am asking.
If your boyfriend does not have a history of lying, then why be suspicious, that's silly.
I tend to be more wary of virgos and libra since they get such a good record of being honest, charming, etc. It is those people you have to watch for, not the scorpios.
i'm a scorpio rising, full 8th house, etc. so I'm naturally suspicious and can sniff anyone out



Yeah, he has lied to me in the past - a really long time ago. We worked it out, but now I'm super skeptical, but there's really nothing I can do except be skeptical. He lied about a female friend going on a trip with him - I have reason to believe since that she really was just friends, and he told me when I called him out on it that he had lied because I had been jealous before and he didn't want me to worry or be upset and to wreck things, but no matter HOW secure you are in a relationship, if someone says to you 'oh yeah. four people I know with this placements were psychopaths' --- how the heck to deal with that without just getting paranoid???

It has been over a year since that experience and he and I were not committed to each other at the time, so I can vouch for his side, but still... it's not a healthy thought pattern I go down. He also has seriously harsh moon/saturn and moon/neptune aspects so. Yeah. I hope one day I don't find out he's been this great, only to have four other girlfriends behind my back like someone else in this thread said. Lol.

Sheesh!!!!!

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posted December 20, 2015 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lundan:
I think I'm very bad at sniffing out if you're trying to insult me because if that's what you're trying to do then you are epically failing.
If my thread was trying to give virgo moons a bad name, you did the job


This is tedious. You just said you can sniff anyone out, due to your Scorpio Asc and full H8. I quoted you on it. Not that it matters. But really, you might consider reading what you post.

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posted December 20, 2015 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cappi112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lundan:
I started this thread mainly because every virgo moon I have met seems intelligent and controlled, but then they surprise me when they start lying and I come to realize they're pathological liars.
4 people I have met or know who have a bad habit of lying happened to be virgo moons.
It doesnt make sense to me either which is why I am asking.
If your boyfriend does not have a history of lying, then why be suspicious, that's silly.
I tend to be more wary of virgos and libra since they get such a good record of being honest, charming, etc. It is those people you have to watch for, not the scorpios.
i'm a scorpio rising, full 8th house, etc. so I'm naturally suspicious and can sniff anyone out



Also I am a libra moon -- have you encountered the same with Libra moons? Just curious since you mentioned you're wary of Libras and Virgos.

I think everyone has an experience with a Scorpio, Virgo, Libra, Pisces, whathaveyou scorning them and being a pathological liar. There HAS to be something else making that happen than just the one sign.

To my end, I am Libra moon and I am a horrible liar. I come clean every time I even try. 'Oh yeah that benign thing I said 2 minutes ago was a lie.'

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posted December 20, 2015 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lundan:
I started this thread mainly because every virgo moon I have met seems intelligent and controlled, but then they surprise me when they start lying and I come to realize they're pathological liars.
4 people I have met or know who have a bad habit of lying happened to be virgo moons.

Please give examples of each person's pathological lying and tell us how you discovered it?

I'm amazed you know four pathological liars. That is an uncommon condition and it's associated with mental illness, which is usually so debilitating, you don't really "catch" these people lying, they give it away quite openly.

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Originally posted by lundan:
i'm a scorpio rising, full 8th house, etc. so I'm naturally suspicious and can sniff anyone out

Again, the pathological liars I have known give themselves away, so suspicion is not even necessary to recognize them for what they are. You would have to be very oblivious to not catch the signs.

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posted December 20, 2015 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cappi112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Violets:
This is tedious. You just said you can sniff anyone out, due to your Scorpio Asc and full H8. I quoted you on it. Not that it matters. But really, you might consider reading what you post.

Ok, guys, can you just stop attacking one another? Lol. I feel like I'm watching the 2 and 3 year old I nanny for bicker. It's annoying. If it's not about the original post, it's making this thread completely un-interesting to the rest of us innocent forum-users who are actually trying to gain some insight and information on the OP.

Just, please start a different thread where you split hairs and tease/criticize/make fun of one another. Then everyone can chime in however they want and that'll be the main objective of the thread.

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posted December 20, 2015 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lundan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Libra moons are the besstttt
I am wary of libra mars and virgo moon
Since men with these placements are never what it seems.
Libra mars can be so romantic one minute and run away with another girl who gives him attention

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Originally posted by Cappi112:
Also I am a libra moon -- have you encountered the same with Libra moons? Just curious since you mentioned you're wary of Libras and Virgos.

I think everyone has an experience with a Scorpio, Virgo, Libra, Pisces, whathaveyou scorning them and being a pathological liar. There HAS to be something else making that happen than just the one sign.

To my end, I am Libra moon and I am a horrible liar. I come clean every time I even try. 'Oh yeah that benign thing I said 2 minutes ago was a lie.'


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posted December 20, 2015 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lundan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I think I'm very bad at sniffing out if you're trying to insult me" is called sarcasm


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Originally posted by Violets:
This is tedious. You just said you can sniff anyone out, due to your Scorpio Asc and full H8. I quoted you on it. Not that it matters. But really, you might consider reading what you post.

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posted December 20, 2015 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cappi112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Please give examples of each person's pathological lying and tell us how you discovered it?

I'm amazed you know four pathological liars. That is an uncommon condition and it's associated with mental illness, which is usually so debilitating, you don't really "catch" these people lying, they give it away quite openly.


Thanks Faith! Yeah, this is kinda what I was hoping for. The blanket statement 'Every Virgo Moon person I know has had affairs, been a pathological liar, and is the devil' does not exactly help clarify haha. (Exaggerating, of course).

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posted December 20, 2015 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cappi112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lundan:
Libra moons are the besstttt
I am wary of libra mars and virgo moon
Since men with these placements are never what it seems.
Libra mars can be so romantic one minute and run away with another girl who gives him attention


Ah gotcha... yeah, Libras and I tend to clash a lot, which I've always thought strange since I haz that moon. (shrug)

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posted December 20, 2015 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lundan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I ignored faith and violets and let them take the forum off tangent because of their immaturity.
It's sad that one of them has children lol
Violets is a virgo moon with leo rising so she must love the attention and starting fights, I think its endearing

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Originally posted by Cappi112:
Ok, guys, can you just stop attacking one another? Lol. I feel like I'm watching the 2 and 3 year old I nanny for bicker. It's annoying. If it's not about the original post, it's making this thread completely un-interesting to the rest of us innocent forum-users who are actually trying to gain some insight and information on the OP.

Just, please start a different thread where you split hairs and tease/criticize/make fun of one another. Then everyone can chime in however they want and that'll be the main objective of the thread.


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posted December 20, 2015 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Cappi112:
Ok, guys, can you just stop attacking one another? Lol. I feel like I'm watching the 2 and 3 year old I nanny for bicker. It's annoying. If it's not about the original post, it's making this thread completely un-interesting to the rest of us innocent forum-users who are actually trying to gain some insight and information on the OP.

Just, please start a different thread where you split hairs and tease/criticize/make fun of one another. Then everyone can chime in however they want and that'll be the main objective of the thread.


Okay, okay. Point taken, lol.

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posted December 20, 2015 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cappi112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lundan:
I ignored faith and violets and let them take the forum off tangent because of their immaturity.
It's sad that one of them has children lol


Haha, I can't even keep track of who is fighting and who is offering advice/opinions about your main post anymore!!!!

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posted December 20, 2015 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lundan:
I ignored faith and violets and let them take the forum off tangent because of their immaturity.
It's sad that one of them has children lol


I would definitely not call this response "ignoring". Rather it's a sad attempt at passive-aggression. If you mention other members by name, you are not ignoring them. Derp. Now stop.

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posted December 20, 2015 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cappi,

As I said, I dated a Virgo moon, and he did lie about something major once. But we were young and I think he was just trying to live according to his desire without being controlled by me...in this one instance. So he "snuck" a behavior, so as not to let it interfere with our relationship. Which he would have done anything to preserve.

Overall he was extremely honest. I would ask questions that he knew were triggers for me, and he would fess up and face the consequences. He was honest about all kinds of sticky, uncomfortable, and weird things, so we had a full relationship, and I did trust him.

He had his flaws but lying was not one of them.

Even if it was, I don't even care. He was honest enough for my standards and did a million nice things for me. I'm grateful I knew him.

And that applies to other Virgo moons I have known. They've bent over backwards for me and seem more honest than most people. I have a very positive opinion of them, and if I were single and interested in a guy, and found out he had a Virgo moon, that would engender my confidence, not suspicion.

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posted December 20, 2015 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lundan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You act as if I hate virgo moons or have something against them.
I am a cancer moon 8th house which I think plays a role in attracting people who are not very mentally stable who I make good friends with.
Can one not make an observation and ask for the consensus?
If you have good experience with virgo moons, then say it.
Why be so defensive, it just arises more suspicion

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Originally posted by Cappi112:
Thanks Faith! Yeah, this is kinda what I was hoping for. The blanket statement 'Every Virgo Moon person I know has had affairs, been a pathological liar, and is the devil' does not exactly help clarify haha. (Exaggerating, of course).

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posted December 20, 2015 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lundan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am obviously not ignoring you right now, I question your intellect lol
Aw, me, passive aggressive? Haha I wish
"now stop" awww is the pisces sun getting hurt lol
I was waiting for your leo rising to come off

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Originally posted by Violets:
I would definitely not call this response "ignoring". Rather it's a sad attempt at passive-aggression. If you mention other members by name, you are not ignoring them. Derp. Now stop.

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posted December 20, 2015 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lundan:
I am obviously not ignoring you right now, I question your intellect lol



Look, dude. Do you want to keep your thread on target? Yes? Then stop. Just stop.
Your attitude sucks, and you're incredibly annoying. Hence we had a bit of fun with you.

Now it's over, and it's ridiculous. So stay on target, and we can get on with the thread.

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posted December 20, 2015 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LYING is a learned behavior!!!!!!

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posted December 20, 2015 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lundan:
I am a cancer moon 8th house which I think plays a role in attracting people who are not very mentally stable who I make good friends with.

Well, your behavior strikes me as unstable. So I can see how more practical people don't exactly gravitate towards you.

But you are only 19. There's time to grow up.

I have an 8th house Pisces moon and can also detect all kinds of interesting things about people. But I don't attract unstable types. I'm just related to them.

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posted December 20, 2015 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lundan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh I was just helping you hijack the thread like you wanted ):
the irony

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Originally posted by Violets:
Look, dude. Do you want to keep your thread on target? Yes? Then stop. Just stop.
Your attitude sucks, and you're incredibly annoying. Hence we had a bit of fun with you.

Now it's over, and it's ridiculous. So stay on target, and we can get on with the thread.


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posted December 20, 2015 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Seimei:
LYING is a learned behavior!!!!!!

Why all the exclamation points?!?!?!?!?

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posted December 20, 2015 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lundan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's a good point

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Originally posted by Seimei:
LYING is a learned behavior!!!!!!



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