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lundan
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posted December 18, 2015 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lundan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay I dont mean to offend anyone (even though I probably will), but every virgo moon I have met lies about the smallest things, they're pathological liars; is there some correlation? do they lie to seem perfect or something

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posted December 18, 2015 11:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cchampliss2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lundan:
Okay I dont mean to offend anyone (even though I probably will), but every virgo moon I have met lies about the smallest things, they're pathological liars; is there some correlation? do they lie to seem perfect or something

Maybe it isn't their moon sign specifically but aspects to their moon or aspects to their mercury. And usually Neptune is involved. Like Donald Trump. LOL!

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posted December 18, 2015 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lundan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol is he a virgo moon? thats so funny
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Originally posted by cchampliss2:
Maybe it isn't their moon sign specifically but aspects to their moon or aspects to their mercury. And usually Neptune is involved. Like Donald Trump. LOL!


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posted December 18, 2015 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cchampliss2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lundan:
Lol is he a virgo moon? thats so funny


No, I just found out he has a Sag moon, but his mercury is square neptune.

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posted December 19, 2015 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireBird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OMG YES!! They lie about small and big things! And they way they do it so nonchalantly is mind boggling and dangerous. I can't trust them, even though they look out for you and do great things...but I can't trust them. I have to check what they said with other people, or have a good memory. It sucks.

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posted December 19, 2015 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, I have never noticed this.

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posted December 19, 2015 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by cchampliss2:
Maybe it isn't their moon sign specifically but aspects to their moon or aspects to their mercury. And usually Neptune is involved. Like Donald Trump. LOL!


Hey!

I have a Virgo Moon (opposite Sun, and square Neptune), and I really dislike lying. And that is NOT fair to compare us all to Trump! Lol.

It's horrifying enough that we share the Mutable Sun/Moon opposition, square Neptune. Wtf...

I think he's lying about his birth time! I would like to see his birth certificate.

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posted December 19, 2015 12:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would like to think that other aspects in my chart mitigate any lying tendencies that would be otherwise indicated.

I am evasive when it comes to things I believe are not other people's business, but I won't lie unless I feel absolutely pressed. Even then, I may well tell the truth, regardless of the consequences.

So...I don't know about other Virgo Moon folk. I mostly know Virgo Suns, although the Virgo Moons I do know seem pretty honest.

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posted December 19, 2015 12:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cchampliss2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Violets:
Hey!

I have a Virgo Moon (opposite Sun, and square Neptune), and I really dislike lying. And that is NOT fair to compare us all to Trump! Lol.

It's horrifying enough that we share the Mutable Sun/Moon opposition, square Neptune. Wtf...

I think he's lying about his birth time! I would like to see his birth certificate.


My bad Violets! You know I had to put it out there though!

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posted December 19, 2015 12:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol.

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posted December 19, 2015 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HoodBlaze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Virgo Moon and I'm always lying. I've gotten a lot better though, but I still let one slip every once and awhile and it sucks. Truthfully it's mostly me lying about my job and university. I work as a security guard and go to community college. Most girls I try to hit on want me to have a better job and go to university. That **** is nerve racking though creating a lie haha. **** those shallow women though I need to stop messing around with people who care about that.

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posted December 19, 2015 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for socialgraffiti     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Violets:

I think he's lying about his birth time! I would like to see his birth certificate.


Just popping in, but according to Kannon, he is NOT Leo rising.

https://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/2015/07/29/trump-for-pres/

I would also agree. All fixed ASC signs have distinct facial structure, which is rectangular. Trump does not have this.

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For Virgo moons, I've only noticed they have done this if their moon was afflicted. It would have a similar effect as an afflicted Mercury.

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posted December 19, 2015 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cchampliss2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Just popping in, but according to Kannon, he is NOT Leo rising.

https://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/2015/07/29/trump-for-pres/

I would also agree. All fixed ASC signs have distinct facial structure, which is rectangular. Trump does not have this.

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For Virgo moons, I've only noticed they have done this if their moon was afflicted. It would have a similar effect as an afflicted Mercury.


I think it can be said that him being a Leo rising is about as false as that mop on his head.

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posted December 19, 2015 01:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by cchampliss2:
I think it can be said that him being a Leo rising is about as false as that mop on his head.


*snort*
He seriously needs to get together with that guy from Ancient Aliens.
.......

Okay...but about Virgo Moons.

I have an afflicted Virgo Moon, and I have never lied habitually (or even willingly). And certainly not about trivial things. I loathe lying, although I have done it if I felt like it was absolutely necessary, and even then I usually come clean with whatever it is that I think I need to hide.

It bothers my conscience to know that I'm not being honest.

Maybe it's my Pluto/Mercury trine, or my Saturn/Sun trine?

This is something I've never heard about Virgo Moons, although some of the Virgo Suns I know can sort of lie to themselves and be a bit delusional. But not always.

Meh. I dunno.

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posted December 19, 2015 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a virgo moon and i cant stand liars or lying....i feel like crap about myself if i don't honor truth, esp within myself. I dont even like saying "im fine" when im not. Its very disrespectful to my feelings. I think lying is disrespectful in all ways.

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posted December 19, 2015 01:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cchampliss2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, I think what constitutes as lying to some, isn't lying to others. Some people are just very private and might let others assume or believe things about someone or something and not correct them on it. That can be seen as being dishonest in a way.

While others can say things from their own perspective is true but it might be untrue to someone else. I wonder what aspects in the chart plays into that specifically. Being honest/dishonest/elusive about feelings sounds like a moon mercury thing with some neptune.

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posted December 19, 2015 01:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for socialgraffiti     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Violets:
I have an afflicted Virgo Moon, and I have never lied habitually (or even willingly). And certainly not about trivial things. I loathe lying, although I have done it if I felt like it was absolutely necessary, and even then I usually come clean with whatever it is that I think I need to hide.

It bothers my conscience to know that I'm not being honest.


If you have a nice Saturn aspect, that'll give you more integrity.

I know one Virgo moon which conjuncts Pluto/Uranus and squares Gemini Mars, who tends to lie a lot.

It may be afflicted Gemini mars, however.

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posted December 19, 2015 01:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by socialgraffiti:
If you have a nice Saturn aspect, that'll give you more integrity.

I know one Virgo moon which conjuncts Pluto/Uranus and squares Gemini Mars, who tends to lie a lot.

It may be afflicted Gemini mars, however.


I have Saturn squares, and am also not a fan of lies. It would weigh heavily on me - even if I make a mistake when communicating something, I have to strongly resist the urge to stop myself from contacting the person to say so, if it's something that would most likely be understood anyway.

I don't have anything in Virgo, but draconic Moon/Venus/SN are in Virgo.

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posted December 19, 2015 05:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for socialgraffiti     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have Saturn squares, and am also not a fan of lies.

Definitely. I knew an Aries Sun, Mercury, and Venus, all conjunct Saturn who refused to lie. Very big guilt complex, and she had North Node in Virgo.

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posted December 19, 2015 07:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
I have a virgo moon and i cant stand liars or lying....i feel like crap about myself if i don't honor truth, esp within myself. I dont even like saying "im fine" when im not. Its very disrespectful to my feelings. I think lying is disrespectful in all ways.

Haven't seen you around lately.
Hi hi hi.

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posted December 19, 2015 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cappi112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lundan:
Okay I dont mean to offend anyone (even though I probably will), but every virgo moon I have met lies about the smallest things, they're pathological liars; is there some correlation? do they lie to seem perfect or something

Whaaa? Have never heard this before.

My bf has virgo moon, and he has lied on occasion to me - usually, yes, to try to save face or because he wanted to avoid what he thought would be an argument. But I never knew the moon would be a reason- I think of virgo as a really honest sign actually...

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posted December 19, 2015 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Every time I see this thread title, I laugh.

Sorry, just the thought of it is funny to me.

Maybe because all the Virgo moons I've known are exceptionally honest people with little interest in extravagance of any kind, including verbal extravagance.

You could pick any random placement and tack "and lying" onto the end, and it would be just as true, if not more true, than this topic.

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posted December 19, 2015 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it must depend on the rest of the chart.

I know some that refuse to lie and I've come across one that I know for a FACT will lie. It was a work situation and he lied not just to protect himself but specifically to try to bury me.
Pi**ed me off and almost a year later I keep my eye on him. I'll never forget or forgive that. It was not insignificant or anything that could be accidental due to forgotten details.

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posted December 19, 2015 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gracha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes Ive noticed this too. Dated A virgo moon for almost a year, come to find out he was THE biggest liar I have ever met, just lied lied and for no reason, total psychopath lol

I know some are quick to say ohh Neptune is aspecting which causes lying, don't believe this to be totally true, because I have a Gemini moon opposite Neptune and I don't like lying nor am I good at it. Been told that i'm too honest and blunt. I just tell you how it is especially if I cross paths with a person I perceive as disrespectful then you really will know how I feel about and it wont be pretty....Now I'm seeing another virgo mooner and I've called him out already for lying good thing he'll admit sometimes but jeez.

Now I know there are some decent virgo mooners but it's the lying that I've observed with the sign in general to be honest.

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posted December 19, 2015 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lundan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah the virgo moon i dated had no neptune aspects, but a total liar my god

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Originally posted by Gracha:
Yes Ive noticed this too. Dated A virgo moon for almost a year, come to find out he was THE biggest liar I have ever met, just lied lied and for no reason, total psychopath lol

I know some are quick to say ohh Neptune is aspecting which causes lying, don't believe this to be totally true, because I have a Gemini moon opposite Neptune and I don't like lying nor am I good at it. Been told that i'm too honest and blunt. I just tell you how it is especially if I cross paths with a person I perceive as disrespectful then you really will know how I feel about and it wont be pretty....Now I'm seeing another virgo mooner and I've called him out already for lying good thing he'll admit sometimes but jeez.

Now I know there are some decent virgo mooners but it's the lying that I've observed with the sign in general to be honest.


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