posted December 28, 2015 10:45 AM              

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Originally posted by Gemini30:
I used to be afraid of it but not anymore. Taurus in my 8th house.

Lundan, i see you are not a scorpio rising, but a Taurus, right? Common mistake as lots of people get their am and pm mixed up.

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posted December 28, 2015 05:24 PM            

The 8th feels comfortable and familiar here/there, really.

PJ said it well in aspect to houses/planets and breaking it down.
SB has a great position Natal position to to specific aspects about Scorpio/Eighth. also.

The 8th has a gift to transform everything it touches. This can mean death[sometimes literally].

For me death means the end all to end all when there is no life. So, life can mean death... in all aspects, to every planet and house. If whatever I touch; It stops transforming/growing, it dies.
The saddest death in this case would be to keep on living and the best case would be to just die, all without whatever you place the highest.

But, I am able to look beyond the 8th for death as well.
Because, other signs/house literally represent something that can make someone snap.

posted December 28, 2015 06:50 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
My husband fears it and he has Neptune in the 8th sextile Pluto forming a YOD with CHIRON. Neptune in the 8th squares his Jupiter which rules his 8th, his Jupiter 8H ruler trines Chiron. He trembles when he thinks of death, he is truly scared of it.

I don't fear it and my MOON rules my 8th, I use to fear my parents death when I was kid though and was a source of anxiety but outgrew that and see it as natural. Ofcourse fear of losing someone you are deeply attached to is there to some extent but so far I have dealt with death very well in my life.

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posted December 28, 2015 08:23 PM            

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Originally posted by barbriallen:
Only very loosely (a sextile with an 11 degree orb) and she actually hasn't got any planets in the 8th. I am curious though, I'll look more at her chart tomorrow

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posted December 28, 2015 09:54 PM            

Death comes with a crawl, or comes with a pounce,
And whether he's slow or spry,
It isn't the fact that you're dead that counts,
But only how did you die?

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I have an 8H Pisces moon sextile 6H Cap sun.

posted December 29, 2015 01:07 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Is chiron in her 12th house? Can you post her chart?

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Here's her chart (birth time is accurate):

posted December 29, 2015 03:34 PM            

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Originally posted by barbriallen:
Here's her chart (birth time is accurate):

[IMG]http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah69/barbriallen/Emma%20Chart_zpsvfcsqkon.jpg[/I MG]

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Thanks a lot, interesting.....the first thing that pops up is that the ruler of her 12th is also the ruler of her 8th and 1st which is Venus and trines her Saturn, that would do it I am thinking. I will comment more later...

posted December 29, 2015 04:01 PM            

My 8th house is in Capricorn, and my Moon is there too at 26° (critical degree).

posted December 29, 2015 07:37 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Thanks a lot, interesting.....the first thing that pops up is that the ruler of her 12th is also the ruler of her 8th and 1st which is Venus and trines her Saturn, that would do it I am thinking. I will comment more later...

Thanks.

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Thanks for your interest! I really appreciate your insights. I'm sure my sister will love to hear about this.

I thought maybe it had something to do with her Pluto being in the house of her eighth house ruler. But I agree, Saturn's probably got something to do with it.

posted December 29, 2015 08:01 PM            

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are you scared of death

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Nope. I see it as something I've been through before and will go through again.. until eventually it will mysteriously dissolve into a meaningless concept.
I see "pain" the exact same way actually ^.

What worries me most is being surrounded by other people - friends and family who are much less able to deal with death and finality - than I am.. and I guess, I wish I could.. ensure that my death doesn't cause them heartache.
But - obviously... there is no way for me to do that, and in the end we are all on our own paths. Their faiths are not in my hands.

posted December 29, 2015 09:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Spongebob:
Not really i fear the idea of it being painful more than the idea of dying itself.

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posted December 30, 2015 12:52 AM            

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Originally posted by LittleBlackCat:
Ditto but that's because I have some really strange ideas...violent and bloody things like the nightmares I've suffered since childhood. Getting shot or dying of health issues is fine. However I think of things like dissolving in acid or falling onto a bunch of spinning blades in a factory. Anyway
I fear the death of one particular person waaayyy more even if it is simple like being shot.

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posted December 31, 2015 06:36 PM            

Though that said, such attacks have both frightened and morbidly fascinated me. I saw a pic of a village killed by such and even cats were dead in the middle of the street (note, I focused on that cat, maybe it had something to do with the kitten in my dream), the whole thing suggesting no one even had time to run and were caught completely by surprise. The actual agent used wasn't listed in the photo, and I don't know if it burned them (including from the inside out as they gasped in the gas) or was some kind of neurotoxin (causing the brain to shut down) or what, but whatever it was, it was fast.

And thinking about neurotoxins, I remembered then (only vaguely now) about someone killed by neurotoxic venom (snakebite). His team was trying to keep him alive until help could arrive and they were down to using CPR as his lungs and heart stopped working. The victim was able to communicate by finger, IIRC (he could somehow) who kept telling them to let him die, which they finally did. The thought of being conscious as your body shut down (even after the heart and lungs stopped so could only be artificially worked) was a thought that horrified me, and I thought of it again as I saw the pic of that gas attack, wondering if when it was fast if they suffered little, or if they were aware for a couple of minutes or even longer...

posted January 03, 2016 12:27 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Wow...Can you post your chart??

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posted January 03, 2016 01:29 AM            

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Originally posted by LittleBlackCat:
I have no idea why I suffer nightmares and weird thoughts. My brother also has Scorp Asc and 8th house moon but does not have these issues. If you see anything indicative let me know please
http://i64.tinypic.com/b4fds0.gif

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Well your chart ruler is Pluto which falls in the 12th house of the unconscious and dreams which squares Jupiter and Jupiter enhances and expands for better or for worse and your Jupiter semisquares your Moon in the 8th so perhaps there a lot of unknown fears regarding death and loss. See how one aspect connects to the other??

What I find intriguing is that your chiron in the 8th is disposited by the moon which is also in the 8th and your moon is disposited by Mercury and Mercury is the ruler of the 8th in your chart and is in the second opposing your 8th and your mars is also disposited by mercury which rules your 8th!

There is a lot of pluto/8th house karma and then Chiron in the 8th conjuncts your southnode in the 8th, you definitely have a past life wound that needs to be healed related to 8th house matters. I would think you would benefit from past life regression therapy honey, I really do. Did you experience any death trauma when you were a child or any kind of childhood trauma?

posted January 03, 2016 01:56 AM            

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Originally posted by barbriallen:
Thanks for your interest! I really appreciate your insights. I'm sure my sister will love to hear about this.

I thought maybe it had something to do with her Pluto being in the house of her eighth house ruler. But I agree, Saturn's probably got something to do with it.

With Saturn being karmic, maybe past lives would play a role. Not sure if you're into past lives, my knowledge is pretty limited, but maybe if a person died violently or something in a previous incarnation, they may be more fearful this time around. Just a thought.

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Looking at chart again now that I am at home.

I see that Chiron is disposited by Mercury which falls in the 12th house and mercury is disposited by Venus the natural ruler of the 8th which is disposited by Pluto and both Pluto and Venus aspect Saturn.

So the chiron wound trail is a journey that starts at the 11th but then goes to the 12th the house of the unknown and in this case refers to unknown fears and then moves on to the 8th house ruler which is Venus and ultimately finishes with Pluto the natural ruler of death.

posted January 03, 2016 02:47 AM            

Also there is FOR SURE a better life after this. The reason I know this is simply because the 8th house is ruled by Pluto which is death, but also regeneration, power, sex (life), and truth.

posted January 03, 2016 05:15 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Did you experience any death trauma when you were a child or any kind of childhood trauma?

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posted January 03, 2016 05:16 AM            

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Originally posted by PaulMcFly:
Nope death is scared of me...

Also there is FOR SURE a better life after this. The reason I know this is simply because the 8th house is ruled by Pluto which is death, but also regeneration, power, sex (life), and truth.

All things must die to evolve

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posted January 03, 2016 05:24 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Interesting chart. What is your most reoccurring dream?

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Reoccurring dreams would be those in which I am being swarmed. Things like me in a room with slugs all over the floor, crawling in my bed, over my skin, dropping from the ceiling, just everywhere...and it's almost always either slugs, spiders, snakes, or roaches. Same exact scenario but replace the creature. There have even been cases involving owls. Dead owl bodies all over my room in my bed with glowing eyes (blue or green). Blood smeared and bodies leading to the bathroom, dead owl floating in the toilet. I've dreamed the same scenario with creatures that don't exist, weird dreamed-up insects.

Other types of reoccurring dreams are of being in strange labs/institutions. Places in which ppl are being tested on and experimented on...rlly horrible scary things with no escape. These places are usually next to everyday things like schools and grocery stores with people going about their daily business with no clue of what takes place in the building. In these dreams I'm always trying to escape and help ppl escape with me but the others never make it and it hurts.

Lastly, I have different dreams that occur in the same places. Places I have never been to in my waking life. I will recognize the place despite it being a totally different dream than the last dream I saw the place in. I'm running from things in those dreams...I'm usually not even sure from what but I have to run. One thing to note is that those are just my reoccurring dreams but in general almost all of my dreams of nightmares and have been all my life.