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hypatia238
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posted January 04, 2016 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Well, there are a lot of things but my most memorable situation with death was when I was 7. I was in the Caribbean, living with my grandmother in the country-side. A young man (aged 17-20 I think) was killed. The district gathered to see his body and I pushed through the crowd until I was able to stare down at his face. His eyes were, of course, blank and so still...I met the aura of "lifelessness" at that moment (and there is an aura). Even at that age I remember thinking he was handsome....beautiful even. Blood leaked from his body running past me down the dirt road. I was little but I felt very connected and a part of me thought that somehow he was still there, and that the lifelessness I was feeling from his body he could feel too...feel his own lack of life. I know it sounds strange but that's the description that fits. I've also almost died numerous times in my life and experience a lot of pain (all form of it that exists) and pain I believe is the bridge between death and life.

Wow eerie but beautiful! Thanks for sharing. I wonder were in the Caribbean now. I am from the Caribbean myself, originally from the Dominican Republic.

You should write about pain and death and all the experiences you have had with 8th house matters. Do one chapter for each.

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posted January 04, 2016 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Reoccurring dreams would be those in which I am being swarmed. Things like me in a room with slugs all over the floor, crawling in my bed, over my skin, dropping from the ceiling, just everywhere...and it's almost always either slugs, spiders, snakes, or roaches. Same exact scenario but replace the creature. There have even been cases involving owls. Dead owl bodies all over my room in my bed with glowing eyes (blue or green). Blood smeared and bodies leading to the bathroom, dead owl floating in the toilet. I've dreamed the same scenario with creatures that don't exist, weird dreamed-up insects.

Other types of reoccurring dreams are of being in strange labs/institutions. Places in which ppl are being tested on and experimented on...rlly horrible scary things with no escape. These places are usually next to everyday things like schools and grocery stores with people going about their daily business with no clue of what takes place in the building. In these dreams I'm always trying to escape and help ppl escape with me but the others never make it and it hurts.

Lastly, I have different dreams that occur in the same places. Places I have never been to in my waking life. I will recognize the place despite it being a totally different dream than the last dream I saw the place in. I'm running from things in those dreams...I'm usually not even sure from what but I have to run. One thing to note is that those are just my reoccurring dreams but in general almost all of my dreams of nightmares and have been all my life.

Outside of my dreams, when I wake up, I usually can't move...at all. I can't speak, scream, nothing. There is an intense feeling of fear (again I'm not sure of what, it's just there). If I manage to speak it will be broken and I can move, but that takes a lot of will. For years it would occur at least 5 times a week sometimes multiple times in a night. This just stopped happening a few months ago (now it only happens every now and then).


Wow fascinating, I am glad that now you are only having nightmares now and then and that this is improving. You should look into dream yoga techniques, you need to try to take control more of your dream life so you can use it as vehicle for healing.

I would also try flower essences, its worth a shot. You can get the rescue remedy at GNC:

Panic Attacks.
Rescue Remedy: Helps at any stressful situation where you need to be able to collect yourself and be in charge of your emotions.
Aspen: Panic, nightmares, pounding heart, sweating for no reason, anxious but don’t know why.
Rock Rose: When you feel that the fear is so great that you are unable to move or react, a frozen fear.
Mimulus Helps you when you feel fear, the type of fear that you can identify such as fear of spiders, being alone, losing a job, illness etc. You are overly sensitive, get embarrassed and nervous.
Cherry Plum: Helps you when you feel that your mind is being over-strained, you feel like you are going to explode or do irrational things.

Take it every night before going to sleep and every morning after you wake up specially if you had a nightmare.

Much Love.

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posted January 04, 2016 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Einfühlung:
I'm not scared. More about how I die, really. Uranus and Neptune Caps in 8th.

Wow my exact views and these are my exact placements also!!!!

I mean I ll miss my loved ones but who knows what comes after 😛

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posted January 05, 2016 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LittleBlackCat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That sounds like a great idea. I actually thought about writing books (all sorts) for years now but my life hasn't been the most convenient for it lol. However, I know that if you want to do something bad enough you will find a way. I will also look into all of the things you recommended (thank you so much!). It is amazing the knowledge different people possess.

Oh, I'm Jamaican . When I was young my sister and I were friends with a Dominican girl and her sister. We did literally everything together as kids. Their mother actually influenced my interest in learning Spanish. Our mothers were best friends without even speaking the language of the other and it fascinated me. Puedo leer y escribir más mejor que puedo hablar. One day I came home from work and got the news that the younger sister died (she was 22). She left a son behind. The older sister's boyfriend was found chopped into pieces earlier that same year. I got a lot of death news in the last few years in general.

This is off-topic but I've been following the "social-cleansing" as they call it in DR. Astrologically speaking did you notice any influences? It seems very Plutonian...Saturn-like too .

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Wow eerie but beautiful! Thanks for sharing. I wonder were in the Caribbean now. I am from the Caribbean myself, originally from the Dominican Republic.

You should write about pain and death and all the experiences you have had with 8th house matters. Do one chapter for each.


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posted January 05, 2016 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedo meow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars in Pisces 8th House with Chiron and Neptune transiting.
Not really fearing death. Would like my home uncluttered and anyway I can make my kids transition easier.
Death itself not scary-Native American "It's a good day to die"

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posted January 06, 2016 03:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LittleBlackCat:
That sounds like a great idea. I actually thought about writing books (all sorts) for years now but my life hasn't been the most convenient for it lol. However, I know that if you want to do something bad enough you will find a way. I will also look into all of the things you recommended (thank you so much!). It is amazing the knowledge different people possess.

Oh, I'm Jamaican . When I was young my sister and I were friends with a Dominican girl and her sister. We did literally everything together as kids. Their mother actually influenced my interest in learning Spanish. Our mothers were best friends without even speaking the language of the other and it fascinated me. Puedo leer y escribir más mejor que puedo hablar. One day I came home from work and got the news that the younger sister died (she was 22). She left a son behind. The older sister's boyfriend was found chopped into pieces earlier that same year. I got a lot of death news in the last few years in general.

This is off-topic but I've been following the "social-cleansing" as they call it in DR. Astrologically speaking did you notice any influences? It seems very Plutonian...Saturn-like too .


I love Jamaicans.

I had to look up social cleansing bc I did not know what you were talking about. Now that I do I am sure that this term was created by a foreigner to make it sound like is about race or social class when this decision is about fear, economics and culture. Dominican Republic is a poor country overall and they feel for economic and cultural reasons that they need to protect their borders which they don't do very well yet Haiti protects theirs extremely well and dominicans can't ever get through. Haiti and the DR practice different languages, religions and customs and in the past they tried to invade DR, wanted to take over our land and eliminate our language, culture and customs but we won that war. They are in the position they are in financially not bc of Dominicans but bc of all the money they have borrowed from France and USA to put it simply.

I personally love Haitians and don't care if the ones that are there already stay there but I am not involved at all in Dominican politics and have lived in Miami since I was 10 so I leave that decision for people who live there to make on their own and other countries should stay the hell out of it and stop coming up with stupid manipulative terms like 'social cleansing' and focus on the issues in their own country. God knows the US has quite its share of shi* to worry about and every other country on earth. Lets let each country take care of their own mess how they want, that is all I know.

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posted January 06, 2016 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JourneysRoar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My own death, no! HOW I may pass and when?? Terrified! But, the death of my children...magnified by 1000! I have so much I want to accomplish, I would have to come back with another crazy karmic life...please no! Lol. As for my children, I am deeply afraid of something happening to one of them, that they may suffer a painful death or die too soon. It's really a problem I had to counsel myself through when our family grew so fast. We had two boys born in '02 and '05, but then my twins came in '10 and our youngest 14 months later! I remember feeling this overwhelming fear shortly after Noah was born...I couldn't grasp it at first, I remember saying to myself...how in the world can I protect them ALL if a dangerous situation arose!! I had raging hormones and was so tired from giving birth and having the twins home by myself during the day, lol...I was a mess! But nonetheless, it was a very real emotionally driven fear! It wasn't until I discovered my cancer sun and mars that I began to understand WHY their protection and safety triggered those emotions. Protecting them fiercely is the core of my being considering my cazimi mars.

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I realize that I didn't say my 8th. I have the last 9 or 10 deg of Pisces on the 8th cusp and no planets placed there.

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posted January 06, 2016 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LittleBlackCat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No sensible person would want undocumented persons entering their country. However, if this was solely about economic protection why deport people for having Haitian blood dating back to 1920? Yes, that's right 1920. Meaning that it doesn't matter if a person (nor their parents, or grandparents) have never been to Haiti a day in their lives, they all have to go. No job, home , or anything to look forward to in Haiti. They were given the stipulation that they could stay if they managed to produce proper "documentation". I'm not sure about DR, but in JA most people (esp. rural people) don't have any such documentation and it has nothing to do with not really being born in Jamaica. Anyway many went to the offices to get the papers done but only 300 out of millions got accepted and most got no call back at all. If these Haitian-Dominicans can't produce these documents then they get deported based on whether or not they look Haitian (skin, hair texture, etc.). Without Dominican citizenship or Haitian citizenship where must they go? The right thing to do would be to just make all the people already living there citizens (granted they are not criminals) then tighten the borders and keep all new Haitians from coming in.

Haiti is poor as punishment for the Haitian Revolution during the 1700s, period. The Haitians were the only Caribbeans brave enough to rebel in the way they did but afterwards they were left with nothing b/c nobody wanted anything to do with them, since the rest of the Caribbean didn't want to ruin ties with Europe. Haiti should never be blamed for their debt. You have to remember that Haiti was destroyed by Europe, then Europe came and "fixed" (note the quotes) what they destroyed and then said Haiti owed them for it. Not fair is it?

If there is one thing I learned from being friends with those 2 Dominican girls is that race is VERY important in DR and no major decision is made without considering it. Their parents were personally ridiculed for both being honey colored because the norm is supposedly to date lighter to keep the genes "good". Being in Miami instead of DR (and being of a lighter shade) probably spared you from all of this but it is a very real situation and certainly not above being applied within the "cleansing". DR is a Prideful Leo Sun, Mar, and Venus. Anything that the inhabitants feel don't make the island look good or have a certain image will be removed. Gemini Moon creates a detachment in these things and Pluto in Scorpio may create chaos to achieve desires.

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I love Jamaicans.

I had to look up social cleansing bc I did not know what you were talking about. Now that I do I am sure that this term was created by a foreigner to make it sound like is about race or social class when this decision is about fear, economics and culture. Dominican Republic is a poor country overall and they feel for economic and cultural reasons that they need to protect their borders which they don't do very well yet Haiti protects theirs extremely well and dominicans can't ever get through. Haiti and the DR practice different languages, religions and customs and in the past they tried to invade DR, wanted to take over our land and eliminate our language, culture and customs but we won that war. They are in the position they are in financially not bc of Dominicans but bc of all the money they have borrowed from France and USA to put it simply.

I personally love Haitians and don't care if the ones that are there already stay there but I am not involved at all in Dominican politics and have lived in Miami since I was 10 so I leave that decision for people who live there to make on their own and other countries should stay the hell out of it and stop coming up with stupid manipulative terms like 'social cleansing' and focus on the issues in their own country. God knows the US has quite its share of shi* to worry about and every other country on earth. Lets let each country take care of their own mess how they want, that is all I know.


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posted January 07, 2016 01:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LittleBlackCat:

If there is one thing I learned from being friends with those 2 Dominican girls is that race is VERY important in DR and no major decision is made without considering it. Their parents were personally ridiculed for both being honey colored because the norm is supposedly to date lighter to keep the genes "good". Being in Miami instead of DR (and being of a lighter shade) probably spared you from all of this but it is a very real situation and certainly not above being applied within the "cleansing". DR is a Prideful Leo Sun, Mar, and Venus. Anything that the inhabitants feel don't make the island look good or have a certain image will be removed. Gemini Moon creates a detachment in these things and Pluto in Scorpio may create chaos to achieve desires.



80% of the DR is as you call it honey colored/interracial, 12% Black and 8% white. Our culture is as diverse as it's going to get and what I see there is classism which is annoying too and not as much racism and when I do see racism it often comes from 'honey colored' people more so than white people which is something I come across a lot here in Miami with Hatian clients I have who are slightly lighter. One of my Hatian clients said in front of her kids who are darker skin remarks like 'my sister is jealous of me bc I am 'lighter skin'." I had to had a conversation with her about saying remarks like that and how it hurts her kids feelings and provide feedback to the kids to empower them. Her sister is in actuality more beautiful but I digress...

I feel perception is reality so if you see everything through racial lenses every move or comment someone says you will see racism were there is not creating more racism and you making a comment such as this "Anything that the inhabitants feel don't make the island look good or have a certain image will be removed" is your subjective opinion and is very divisive.

Also how on earth does DR's natal have Pluto in Scorpio?? It was discovered in 1492 and gained it's independence from Haiti in 1844.

"Haiti is poor as punishment for the Haitian Revolution during the 1700s, period. The Haitians were the only Caribbeans brave enough to rebel in the way they did but afterwards they were left with nothing b/c nobody wanted anything to do with them, since the rest of the Caribbean didn't want to ruin ties with Europe. Haiti should never be blamed for their debt. You have to remember that Haiti was destroyed by Europe, then Europe came and "fixed" (note the quotes) what they destroyed and then said Haiti owed them for it. Not fair is it?" I completely agree with all this. The point I was trying to make is that is not Dominican's fault Haiti is in bad shape and that we are poor ourselves and unfortunately cant afford to take on their load.

The thing is that I know way more than 2 dominican girls, waaaay moreeee. I lived there for 10 years and for one around 20 and went there every summer for years and black Americans and Dominicans are very different.

That Sun, venus, mars in leo explains why dominican men are so cocky and prideful and have a rep for cheating and think they are the last coke of the dessert but not how you are spinning it!; its rare to come across a dominican who stresses about race and is insecure about their skin tone, they tend to be extremely confident, too confident. If there was so much racism interracial marriages will not be the norm there, I feel you are getting a skewed perception of our culture and politics.

I appreciate your input though and heard you.

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posted January 07, 2016 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, it is death that is scared of me..


Nah, I`m joking..

I think once I looked at her eyes, I shited my pants...

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posted January 07, 2016 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LittleBlackCat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto was in Scorpio during that time.

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"That Sun, venus, mars in leo explains why dominican men are so cocky and prideful and have a rep for cheating and think they are the last coke of the dessert "
That's Caribbean men in general.

Anyway, mentioning the issues relating to DR in no way means I excuse issues anywhere else or think it doesn't exist anywhere else. I talked abut DR b/c DR is what we were discussing and they have taken it to the level of "social cleansing". What that Haitian woman did is unfortunately a very common thing among black / biracial people in general (all over the world). Hence the following...

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when I do see racism it often comes from 'honey colored' people more so than white people

Note that I never specified who was propagating color-ism, I just stated that it existed and it needs to stop (no matter who is doing it).

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[/b] 80% of the DR is as you call it honey colored/interracial, 12% Black and 8% white. Our culture is as diverse as it's going to get and what I see there is classism which is annoying too and not as much racism [/b]

It is racially diverse, but that does not mean the mentality is diverse. Fact is the mixing in DR comes from ppl wanting to keep the island from getting too dark. Anyway, racial diversity is not important, pride in blood-line / heritage is (regardless of what that blood-line may be). The African and Taino blood-lines are not thought of with the same level of pride as White, etc (despite all of them being necessary to create the typical Dominican). You are right that classism is prominent; however, since you lived there you should know that usually lighter shades are wealthier than the darker ones (based on historical foundation). So just by association race is a part of the classism. Meaning that if it is not known for sure that one is in fact wealthier than the other, the lighter person will be hired more readily just by class association. No matter how you look at it, it is just the nature of things currently.

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its rare to come across a dominican who stresses about race and is insecure about their skin tone

Not rare at all. Again, you were probably just spared most this based on your skin tone. I was friends with two Dominican girls but they certainly weren't the only Dominicans I knew. Dominicans fear getting "too dark" and are more flattered if told they seem closer to looking Spanish (as in Spaniard) or some other race. I don't know if skin-bleaching is common over there or not but it's pretty bad. My uncle dated a Dominican woman. Very beautiful lady with dark indian looking skin and very long hair. Yet she was insanely insecure about her skin thanks to her family. While this exists all over, I knew it had to be bad in DR b/c tons of neighboring Trinidad women look just like that with very little issues and are actually seen as being "prettier" than average. Note that there has only been one Miss DR that looked anything like the average Dominican (I think she was 2013). I don't care for that beauty contest stuff but my point is, even if we pretend the ppl of DR aren't stuck on color clearly ppl in high places are, and those are the same high positioned ppl behind this "cleansing". We just have to be realistic.

Anyway, I heard Haitians have been known to do a lot of illegal activity in DR (this is what I've heard anyway) so I would understand concern in that respect. However, if this was the sole purpose they would never need to trace bloodlines back to 1920, removing even innocent people who have lived there all their lives (with parents and grandparents who have lived in DR all their lives). They would just do what I mentioned before and make the Haitian-Dominicans that already live there citizens (except the criminals, as I made sure to say in my other post). It just not right.

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The point I was trying to make is that is not Dominican's fault Haiti is in bad shape
I never said that though. I only clarified why Haiti is in debt, because a lot of people believe it is their own fault. Technically it is, b/c if they never rebelled they would be fine, but any dignified person would rebel against being enslaved. The other islands should have helped (Jamaica included). Yet we welcome tourists b/c of the money, despite tourists bringing weird diseases there.

The fact is Haitians (and plenty of other third world ppl) wouldn't do illegal activities if their own ppl would hire them. You and I know that when Dominicans and Jamaican first came to America (along the PuertoRicans) we were known to be "violent" and do "illegal" things, but who was hiring these people? Nobody. Thankfully, we are now in a time where that's no longer too prominent but the same can't be said for Haiti, they are very much behind time in this respect. And actually alot of young caribbean men are (haitian or not) still go through this. DR wouldn't be taking on any load by just leaving the ppl that have been in DR their entire lives alone. It's colorism.

See this is why when everyone says Pisces moon is so caring, kind, etc I always have to clarify things. Pisces moon is sensitive, sometimes for others, but PRIMARILY for themselves. People confuse being emotional for being a kinder human-being which is not so. Obviously not every Pisces moon would share your view but I'm a Gemini moon (supposedly super-unfeeling) and honestly I am one of the kindest ppl I know. All the moons feel, it is the comfort level of expressing these feelings that is different. Pisces moon doesn't feel "more" than anyone else.


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posted January 08, 2016 02:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^I appreciate all your input truly and can see you have studied racial issues and Caribbean history in depth. I am hearing you and value what you have to say.

"It is racially diverse, but that does not mean the mentality is diverse. Fact is the mixing in DR comes from ppl wanting to keep the island from getting too dark."

^You know that is sooo sad truly bc between you and I when I see Hatian folks I find their skin color extremely beautiful. I dont know how to explain it but there is something very beautiful, powerful and sweet even, for some reason sweet comes to my mind and innocence, about the purity and richness of their skin tone.

I wanted José Francisco Peña Gómez to be president and he is of Haitian Descent and he had a lot of followers to be fair but yes there was also paranoia about him becoming president but he was truly very popular, I think he was very close to winning the last time he ran actually. I remember wanting him so badly to win. I was not of age yet to vote but would have voted for him and my dad voted for him and he has Spanish background.

I did not know that Haitians did a lot of illegal activity in the DR. Actually their reputation there is good IME, they are known for working really hard and cheap labor which is another reason why Dominicans get paranoid too about them. When it comes to crime I think of Dominicans, all three times I have been scammed when I went to visit there it was by Dominicans. Last time guns were involved and they were all young Dominican guys possibly teens that assaulted my husband and I but we shouldn't have been walking late at night like idiots either and should have been more cautious. Its a poor country though, crime rate tends to go up in such set up. There is no police, you can bribe any police there. The crime problem there is not a skin thing is a poverty thing among many other things like not having police officers that do their job bc they get paid truly sh*t.

Dominicans are one of the largest groups to migrate to the USA though and many of us are hard working like my mom who is a doctor and a workaholic and truly good person, very humanitarian. All my Dominican clients work hard too, a lot of them have humble jobs but work super hard but yes some are criminals but a lot of us are entrepreneurs and very creative always opening up small businesses all over or in the music industry...we are also very hospitable.

"That's Caribbean men in general." hahahaha

"I never said that though." I know you never blamed Dominicans for Haiti's unfortunate circumstances and like I said I agree on your analysis wholeheartedly about their History. The French truly **** *d them over big time and then the US by giving them loans they will never afford to pay back finished the deed. Loans long term don't help and just put you deeper into poverty. I admire them big time for rebelling and freeing themselves from France and ofcourse that is what needed to happen.

I don't think though that DR is making this decision based of off colorism, I do think is because of economical, cultural and political reasons although misguided. I strongly doubt that this is social cleansing and we will just have to disagree on the motives I guess, politics is usually about economics and fear of scarcity and resource motivated.

But for what is worth I personally have no problems at all with Haitians staying in the DR who were born there and my like and sympathy for them goes so deep that deep down I dont even care if they cross the border but obviously I am thinking with my heart there and not my head bc we can't afford for all of them to cross over...

I hope that just like I have truly heard you out that you have also heard me out and open yourself up at least a TINY bit to the possibility that this is motivated by a number of other factors other than colorism as I have opened myself up to your theory a tiny bit.

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posted January 08, 2016 02:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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See this is why when everyone says Pisces moon is so caring, kind, etc I always have to clarify things. Pisces moon is sensitive, sometimes for others, but PRIMARILY for themselves. People confuse being emotional for being a kinder human-being which is not so. Obviously not every Pisces moon would share your view but I'm a Gemini moon (supposedly super-unfeeling) and honestly I am one of the kindest ppl I know. All the moons feel, it is the comfort level of expressing these feelings that is different. Pisces moon doesn't feel "more" than anyone else.


Excuse me? My view? I feel you are judging me unfairly bc I don't see things the way you do and that is manipulative, biased and unfair. So if I don't think like you on a social matter then that means I am insensitive and bad! You are simply wrong about me, you cant judge someone based on one issue or one conversation specially an issue that perhaps you are too close to which makes it harder for you to see other views and consider them honestly, leading to seeing the other person in an all or nothing way when assessing their character.

Your above reaction is why people never have honest conversations of racial issues which is something I was trying to do with you.

I am extremely compassionate, I also have a very rational objective side. I do have MOON in Pisces in the 3rd house opposite Mercury and square Neptune in the 1st and my nodes. I am not just compassionate for myself, you are very wrong about that, and all the clients I have served which all are a bunch of different colors and nationalities would disagree with you. I have chosen a life of poverty to help others so don't go around saying that moon in Pisces are only compassionate about themselves. A huge reason why I am married is bc I am compassionate. When I met my husband he was living in his friends office sleeping on the floor, almost 9 years later I am still with him and supporting him financially when most women will walk away and abandon someone like that but I can't, I simply cant. I am all he has and love him no matter what.

When I am insensitive and negative is one of two things: I am protecting myself bc I take on so much daily since I work with people with problems whether health, mental or financial or all of the above. My Pisces moon absorbs all that and I get depressed too as a result and have to constantly snap myself out of depression to continue doing my job well and helping others.

You know what I am going to stop right here and not say anything else further...

MERCURY IS RETRO squaring MARS

If you reply to this or my last post try hard to reply keeping in mind that I am good person bc I AM, perfect NO but good YES.

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posted January 08, 2016 04:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LittleBlackCat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol I don't think you are a bad person Hypathia. I do not forget that you were very kind and helpful in suggesting remedies for my strange nightmares. My honest opinion is that you haven't experienced certain things and are in denial about certain other things. It is also clearly very important to you that I know you do not hate Haitians. Understand that when I think of this issue I do not only see Haitians or their immediate descendants as victims. I see Dominicans as victims as well because obviously the longstanding opposition of Haitians didn't manifest out of thin air. There may be economic motivation but there is also a very blatant rejection of association, everything from looks, to class. If you truly believe Haitians are beautiful (which they are) that's great but we would be lying if we said majority of DR shared that view. The sad part is, Haiti and DR actually come from the same African slaves. The only difference being that one mixed far more with the Spaniards than the other.

The thing is, you tend to respond with personal accounts but tend not to touch on more general things such as the Miss DR never looking like the average Dominican. Or giving a justifiable reason as to why they have to trace blood back to 1920. Of course this situation is close to my heart (it should be close to any humane person's heart) but it being close to my heart does not cloud my thinking or analysis in any way. I'm Jamaican which (luckily for me) is generally considered awesome or cool by mostly everyone. I superficially have no reason for this to matter to me. However, it is the blatant historical validity and facts that make it close to my heart to begin with, so no emotions clouding anything here, I am driven by the facts.

Also don't be misled by my historical interests/knowledge. This is indeed important to me but I could have an equally in-depth and thoroughly researched discussion about nearly anything. Human chimeras (DNA), color energy, hermaphrodites (weird I know lol), anything. With any topic I discuss ppl will get the impression I am especially interested in that topic or spend my life agonizing over it. When in actuality I just like to know as much as I can about everything and that tends to give me a good foundation to arugue my points (Gem Mars/Moon and VirgoMid.H).

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posted January 08, 2016 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 08, 2016 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mamawolf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I used to be but now more so about not living life to the fullest aka dying sad because I didn't explore the world and such.

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posted January 08, 2016 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes and bc we mixed so much with the Spanish our culture is largely influenced by them and we have the right like any other group to preserve our culture and protect the economy of our country and our resources.

Social Psychology makes it clear we are all biased so even when looking at historical facts how we interpret the so called facts and what facts we focus on and what facts we ignore or discard give us a biased perception of the truth so my inclination is to think that the truth is somewhere in the middle when there are two opposing views.

I have expressed my experience living there which holds value but while also keeping in mind at all times our history even if I did not bring it up btw...

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posted January 08, 2016 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LittleBlackCat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Either you are going to have a valid argument for why people are being kicked out based on a 1920 bloodline or not. Either you are going to explain how Miss DR NEVER looking like the average Dominican has nothing to do with colorism or not. Either you are going to have sensible arguments, wait...you guessed it, OR NOT.

If you aren't doing AT LEAST one of those two things anything you say is a waste of my time. Honestly. The audacity of you to make it seem like I'm the one with the misconstrued mentality when I have backed all of my statements with undeniable facts/points anyone can look up for themselves. The same cannot be said about you, since you think your personal experiences trump actual history. Totally delusional. I'm a Scorp.Asc. I can see past BS very quickly, but it is my nature to let the other person out themselves. I sat here and let you prove why you don't make sense, thus you did the work for me. So congratulations. I did deliberate testing of presentation to see your reaction to direct responsibility vs. indirect responsibility. If I placed you in the position of not being a "bad person" you exploited the wiggle room in that and showed your true colors more honestly. If I placed you in the position sans assuaging any of my points, you did your best to highlight how much you love Haitians. Smh. Interesting but confirmatory to say the least. You are just entitled like many of the ppl of lighter complexion in DR and you don't give a d*** about what happens to anyone other than ppl in your own class. That is the truth no matter what you try to hide it behind.

This is why I brought up your Pisces Moon b/c while not every Pisces Moon lives in their head the vast majority of you do. Everything you state is about what you FEEL is being done and what you FEEL is the reason for my stance and therefore what you FEEL is now reality despite hard facts slapping you in the face over and over again. Rubbish. Anyway, I hope that if one day you should ever find yourself in the position of having your home, job, friends, and the only life you've ever known taken away from you based on something you have no control over you will still share the same views you have today.

I really don't care to force anyone into my view. Either you are mentally/emotionally advanced enough to grasp it or you are not. My only job is to just make a person aware and that's it. I made you aware, you don't have the ability to understand, and now it is no longer my issue, b/c my job is done. Your ignorance is unfortunate and I'm also intellectually bored at this point. That's all I have to say *Drops Mic*

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Yes and bc we mixed so much with the Spanish our culture is largely influenced by them and we have the right like any other group to preserve our culture and protect the economy of our country and our resources.

Social Psychology makes it clear we are all biased so even when looking at historical facts how we interpret the so called facts and what facts we focus on and what facts we ignore or discard give us a biased perception of the truth so my inclination is to think that the truth is somewhere in the middle when there are two opposing views.

I have expressed my experience living there which holds value but while also keeping in mind at all times our history even if I did not bring it up btw...


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posted January 09, 2016 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow incredible, is like you didn't listen to anything I said this entire time and just interpreted everything I said however you felt like.

You are not interested in having a dialogue and mutually learning from each other. What you are doing is attacking the character of people who dont think like you. Think whatever you want of me, that is your burden not mine, I know who I am.

Drops mic? Really? Lol

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Originally posted by LittleBlackCat:
Either you are going to have a valid argument for why people are being kicked out based on a 1920 bloodline or not. Either you are going to explain how Miss DR NEVER looking like the average Dominican has nothing to do with colorism or not. Either you are going to have sensible arguments, wait...you guessed it, OR NOT.

If you aren't doing AT LEAST one of those two things anything you say is a waste of my time. Honestly. The audacity of you to make it seem like I'm the one with the misconstrued mentality when I have backed all of my statements with undeniable facts/points anyone can look up for themselves. The same cannot be said about you, since you think your personal experiences trump actual history. Totally delusional. I'm a Scorp.Asc. I can see past BS very quickly, but it is my nature to let the other person out themselves. I sat here and let you prove why you don't make sense, thus you did the work for me. So congratulations. I did deliberate testing of presentation to see your reaction to direct responsibility vs. indirect responsibility. If I placed you in the position of not being a "bad person" you exploited the wiggle room in that and showed your true colors more honestly. If I placed you in the position sans assuaging any of my points, you did your best to highlight how much you love Haitians. Smh. Interesting but confirmatory to say the least. You are just entitled like many of the ppl of lighter complexion in DR and you don't give a d*** about what happens to anyone other than ppl in your own class. That is the truth no matter what you try to hide it behind.

This is why I brought up your Pisces Moon b/c while not every Pisces Moon lives in their head the vast majority of you do. Everything you state is about what you FEEL is being done and what you FEEL is the reason for my stance and therefore what you FEEL is now reality despite hard facts slapping you in the face over and over again. Rubbish. Anyway, I hope that if one day you should ever find yourself in the position of having your home, job, friends, and the only life you've ever known taken away from you based on something you have no control over you will still share the same views you have today.

I really don't care to force anyone into my view. Either you are mentally/emotionally advanced enough to grasp it or you are not. My only job is to just make a person aware and that's it. I made you aware, you don't have the ability to understand, and now it is no longer my issue, b/c my job is done. Your ignorance is unfortunate and I'm also intellectually bored at this point. That's all I have to say *Drops Mic*


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posted January 09, 2016 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sylven     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Bluejay:
I don't fear death, but I do fear dying in a really horrific way. I've always feared being murdered, drowning, or dying in a plane crash. I just don't want to be traumatized in my final moments. My 8th house cusp falls in the last degree of Virgo, with Libra intercepted. I have 5 planets in the 8th...Jupiter, Saturn and Venus, plus a Moon/Pluto conjunction. Plus Mercury(ruler of 8th), Sun, and Uranus in Scorpio. I accept death as a natural part of life, but I want to die at peace.

I've had several near death experiences, where it seemed like I had a guardian angel looking over me. I also narrowly escaped being kidnapped when I was 9, and I feel that I would've ended up being killed if I had not gotten away. That is actually my absolute worst fear in life is to have a child that disappeared, never to be seen again. I can't imagine anything worse, aside from knowing that my child was murdered.


OMG, Bluejay! I can't believe no one else has reacted. You have had several near death experiences? And almost been kidnapped? I can totally understand your feelings!! Do you wish to talk about your experiences?
And YES!! It must be the worst thing, a child disappearing. Not knowing but knowing your child is scared, not safe, not with you, it would be so devastating. But you can't do anything about it. You have to live and experience another day and every day you hope a miracle will happen. It's better to know than to be unsure. My heart always goes out to those that have to go through this!! Although I also believe in the path we all chose to walk when we entered. My daughter as well. I can only protect her to some extend. I always make sure I will always love her unconditionally and will always be with her no matter what. In real life or in spirit. But, she can do without me perfectly well as well.
But how and why did your near death experience happen? Where did you go?

I have a feeling I will go out with a POOF. An accident of some kind. But that can be the Uranus/pluto energy I have. Like BAM in your face, exploding! I have Mars as a ruler of the 8th and Chiron there. Yep .... I am not scared of pain or death but the most scared I am for leaving behind people who will experience pain because I am gone. I'd rather they die and I have pain than they will have pain. Dying is not bad. We are eternal and we have done it so many times.
Oh but yes, some ways of dying I am scared of. Drowning for instance.

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posted January 09, 2016 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bluejay what is asteroid Angel doing on your chart?

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