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coteau
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posted January 06, 2016 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for coteau     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well everyone comments on how shy I am.
I mostly don't feel like I have the right to say things or to be much of anything, ive had social anxiety and its just terrible. It gets better as I age though.

I have sun and moon in the 12th
saturn conjunt venus and mercury(3rd house ruler) and saturn also rules my 11th house
these three planets are also in the 12th

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hannaramaa
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posted January 06, 2016 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My high school teacher commented on my report card how reserved I was, and it's never gone away.

I have a Taurus moon trine Saturn
Sun and Venus square Saturn
Saturn in the 7th with Capricorn ruling my 8th house, and Pluto in my 5th.

Will. Not. Initiate.

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Desiring Shadows
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posted January 06, 2016 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Desiring Shadows
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posted January 06, 2016 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But yeah,back to you!

Let me just tell you something. All relationships END and any action u do will most likely not be commented on.. (If ur like me and are afraid to like move and stuff out of fear) because honestly people don't usually notice that stuff

It's kind of like social anxiety
My point is :..
MESS UP
DO IT . Do everything that's in ur head that u are afraid to do just u can tell yourself later. "I totally ruined everything and went all out there. WELL, atleast I tried."

Also u have to exceed ur best
U have to be stupendous
Lmao

Just talk more to him. Fake it until u make it!!!
People who are successful were just like us once upon a time
They just advanced because they messed up sooner

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Desiring Shadows
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posted January 06, 2016 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
P.s. Don't use astrology as excuses for ur failure
Use it as an understanding
Understand the reason
Then work towards making it better

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StubbornVirgo
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posted January 08, 2016 03:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
P.s. Don't use astrology as excuses for ur failure
Use it as an understanding
Understand the reason
Then work towards making it better

I don't understand why the OP being shy and missing a social opportunity is considered a failure on her part? I understand what you're trying to say, but you're coming off as pretty harsh and to be honest, that's not going to help someone who is struggling with shyness.

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Spongebob
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posted January 08, 2016 03:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spongebob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by StubbornVirgo:
I don't understand why the OP being shy and missing a social opportunity is considered a failure on her part? I understand what you're trying to say, but you're coming off as pretty harsh and to be honest, that's not going to help someone who is struggling with shyness.


I didn't want to say this at the time but yeah as someone who actually has social anxiety, formally diagnosed, their posts read like the commentary of someone who doesn't. Have it, doesn't know anyone who does, and really doesn't know anything about it at all.

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Geminiyoungster
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posted January 08, 2016 08:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminiyoungster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really hate to say it, but social anxiety has to do something with low self esteem or over self awareness. I think people pick up social and unknown influences from other sources or self conscious from other people. And how in the hell can people say that people are using astrology as a clutch? I don't see how they are since astrology does have an effect in people's lives? Especially urnaus and crazy effects of transits? Kinda selfish I would say..

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Geminiyoungster
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posted January 08, 2016 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminiyoungster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have encountered people who make people with social anxiety feel misunderstood..That's why I don't socailize with everybody becuase everybody does not derserve my time. Just try to find people who makes you feel comfortable OP.. I noticed when I'm not comfortable I start to act nervous. And have you ever noticed that people want you lead a conversation with conversing, but they have nothing to say or offer. I get this in conversations and then people try to call me standoffish..

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StubbornVirgo
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posted January 09, 2016 02:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ Those are all really good points, Geminiyoungster. I agree that finding people we're comfortable around is important. Some of my closest friends have been other shy people.

Spongebob, I don't know whether or not that person has experienced this kind of thing before. I try not to judge based on the responses I see here, because sometimes people say things that accidentally misrepresent themselves and/or their experiences. I just know they came off a little harsh in their replies. I certainly don't want the OP to feel like a "failure" for being shy or socially anxious. But I also don't want to assume things about the other poster that may not be true at all. I think she probably had good intentions, but it just came out wrong. Mercury is in Rx, afterall!

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Desiring Shadows
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posted January 09, 2016 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by StubbornVirgo:
I don't understand why the OP being shy and missing a social opportunity is considered a failure on her part? I understand what you're trying to say, but you're coming off as pretty harsh and to be honest, that's not going to help someone who is struggling with shyness.



No....
You don't understand. The more you do something the better you get at it. I realized this and pretty much forced myself to be outgoing until it became natural. No one likes to do it... But that's what progress is....
I'm not saying you're a failure, I'm just saying you don't have to be that way forever. (Shy)
Good luck !

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StubbornVirgo
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posted January 09, 2016 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:

No....
You don't understand. The more you do something the better you get at it. I realized this and pretty much forced myself to be outgoing until it became natural. No one likes to do it... But that's what progress is....
I'm not saying you're a failure, I'm just saying you don't have to be that way forever. (Shy)
Good luck !

You told the OP to not use astrology as an excuse for failure. Being shy or missing a social opportunity is not a failure on her part. No where in there did I say that you told the OP she was a failure.

Actually, I do understand. Just because you were able to come over shyness yourself doesn't mean that everyone else can. If the OP is also socially anxious or is dealing with self-confidence or self-esteem issues, then simply "getting over it" is not a realistic option.

If you don't understand why your commentary is insensitive, that's fine, but please don't expect those of us who are are struggling with shyness and social anxiety to agree with you.

The OP wanted to talk about astrological placements related to her shyness, by the way - not unwarranted advice about how to overcome it.

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Desiring Shadows
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posted January 09, 2016 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not even going to argue but if someone doesn't achieve what they want to (like being social enough to talk to a guy she likes) I would perceive that as a failure.. And I'm putting that in the nicest way possible.

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DannyCappy
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posted January 09, 2016 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DannyCappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Geminiyoungster

I agree 100%.I dont even waste my time trying to explan it to SOME people either./\
Is useless! lol

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Empty Spaces
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posted January 09, 2016 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is really easy to say that when you arent in someone else shoes.BUT ITS O.K 👏

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Empty Spaces
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posted January 09, 2016 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you guys for the support!

That is just another "failure" based on society labels!Harsh comments about it?Just another day on the office.

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aquaguy91
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posted January 09, 2016 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm shy. I have sun conjunct saturn in the 12th house, venus is also in the 12th house conjunct the ascendant.

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StubbornVirgo
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posted January 09, 2016 09:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DannyCappy:
Geminiyoungster

I agree 100%.I dont even waste my time trying to explan it to SOME people either./\
Is useless! lol


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StubbornVirgo
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posted January 09, 2016 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Empty Spaces:
Is really easy to say that when you arent in someone else shoes.BUT ITS O.K 👏

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StubbornVirgo
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posted January 09, 2016 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Empty Spaces:
Thank you guys for the support!

That is just another "failure" based on society labels!Harsh comments about it?Just another day on the office.


You're welcome.

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bananaz
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posted January 09, 2016 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bananaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DopGang:
I don't think so.
One is related to fear/nervousness/awkwardness and one is a choice.
Well, put in extremely basic terms.

My opinion of course.


Definitely not an opinion You're right on the mark about them not being the same. Introversion is a need to recharge. Social gatherings are draining after more than a few hours for an introvert. I strongly suspect this is connected to the empathic nature of water signs, especially mine (12th house pisces stellium) and probably more Cancer than Scorpio as they're known for staying indoors, but thats a whole other topic...

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