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sunflower-moon
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posted January 23, 2016 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunflower-moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has anyone else noticed this about those with their Mars in Scorpio? When you get into an argument with one they fly off the deep end and absolutely nothing is off limits. They aim to hurt and if it's below the belt, even better! My mom and sister are like this and I've just realized they both have their Mars in Scorpio. Those are the only two Scorpio Mars I've been close to (I think) and they are the only two people I've, personally, had this problem with. Celebrity-wise I could only think of Mel Gibson and Charlie Sheen who do the same kind of thing and they both have their Mars in Scorpio too!

Not to say that everyone with their Mars in Scorpio is like that, obviously there are countless other things at play but has anyone else noticed this, or had similar problems with someone who had this placement?

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posted January 23, 2016 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystic_Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One of my good mates has Mars in Scorpio, he also has Moon conjunct Pluto in Scorpio.

He's quite intense and looks Scorpionic, but i don't think Mars is to do with the mind really or the way you talk, imo.

I think Mars is just the way you look and move. The physical symbol for Mars is the head.

- They actually found a structure on Mars in the shape of the human head.

But i could be wrong <3

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posted January 23, 2016 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystic_Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do either of them have Mercury in Scorpio, or any personal planets conjunct Antares?

I think Regulus can cause a sharp toungue, my Mum has Mercury conjunct Regulus in the first house and she can be pretty upfront with her words ..

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posted January 23, 2016 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had a guy with Mars in Scorpio totally obssessed with me. It was unrequited and he scared me.

But he was never rude...I just felt his intensity and he was really having the hots for me. And Mars in Scorpio seems to be a very sexual placement. He saw me like a phantasy and not as a person...ugh.

I wonder if I ever annoyed him how he would have acted...his Mars was on my Moon/Pluto that's probably the trigger.

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posted January 23, 2016 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmiqPhuz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars in Scorpio fights dirty. It's good for fighting true enemies and winning wars, but it's overkill for anything else. No such thing as friendly competition or civil arguments with these people.

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posted January 23, 2016 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My personal experience has been yes, they have terribly vicious tongues when they're mad or you're in an argument with them.

I dated two...one was a Virgo Sun with Leo Moon, and the other with Cap Sun, Scorpio Moon.

The Virgo was pretty horrid verbally when he was mad, but was more genuinely caring in general. The Cap Sun was a little...out there. Neither was pleasant when they were mad.

Now that I reflect on it, they were also both really vindictive when they felt wronged.

Hopefully it goes without saying that I don't believe everyone with this placement is this way. I have a good friend who has it, and while I wouldn't want to be the person she sets out on a crusade against, I don't think that she has a vicious tongue. Probably her Libra rising makes up for it, I guess.

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posted January 23, 2016 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mystic_Cat,
Mars is energy,action,, PERIOD.but planets are in the chart with other planets.
if Mercury is thought, and thinking is a verb
then it requires energy to happen.\
and yes Mars N Scorpio can be harsh energy,
but the speaking(action) part would be Mercury(thoughts) again,
oh wait , your mouth is a part of your heard uh.

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posted January 23, 2016 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CosmiqPhuz:
Mars in Scorpio fights dirty. It's good for fighting true enemies and winning wars, but it's overkill for anything else. No such thing as friendly competition or civil arguments with these people.

Yea, CP, great to have as friends. terrible to have as enemies lol

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posted January 24, 2016 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StillTippin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars in cancer is far more vicious. Mars in Scorpio is more about self control

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Elysia
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posted January 24, 2016 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, yes, Mercury is more responsible for verbal outbursts. Esp Merc in hard aspects to Mars - along with quickness, it also portends rashness in speech at times. Of course, if the native is self-aware, these can be toned down or used in a good way.

The thing with Mars in Scorpio (& Merc) is, they can see the vulnerable spots in people for sure, and they can be vindictive when angered, but not necessarily in the way you describe. I've seen a lot of Scorp Marses in action (including myself), and the preferred modus operandi is to cast a subtle net and wait for the subject to screw himself over. It's a class act, nothing tacky. You can even stand back and appreciate the brilliance of the spectacle (unless you happen to be in the path of destruction). We don't stoop to using things told to us in confidence that are of a sensitive nature. You forget that it's a water mars, they have high empathy; even when they're out stinging wrongdoers.

The part people get frustrated about is that Scorp mars will use only what you yourself put out there, that will come to bite you in the @$$. In a way, people unwittingly give them ammunition. We don't get to this point easily or without a hell lot of cause, but once we do, it will be a lesson they'll never forget.

Guilty as charged to pulling strings and 'arranging' for a Venti-size serving of vengeance(/justice). But ironically, that happens only when people abuse trust and use what we trusted them with against us. Then it's go time. #DarthVendetta

Viciousness in terms of hitting 'below the belt' is a sign of weakness. I've only seen afflicted mars do this.

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Scorp (merc-mars) conjunct in the 8th.

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posted January 24, 2016 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmiqPhuz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course, not every Scorpio Mars is the same. I only speak from my experiences with people with this placement (past girlfriends, friends, rivals, dad...).

I have scorpio mercury myself.

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Yea, CP, great to have as friends. terrible to have as enemies lol

Yes, agreed Ami

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posted January 24, 2016 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh yeah!
But it's a lot of talk. Nothing to get worried about.

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Elysia
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posted January 24, 2016 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CosmiqPhuz:
Of course, not every Scorpio Mars is the same. I only speak from my experiences with people with this placement (past girlfriends, friends, rivals, dad...).

I have scorpio mercury myself.

Yes, agreed Ami


Right, yeah. There are so many octaves of energy that are expressed.
Sorry you got the bad egg(s).

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posted January 24, 2016 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Mars in Leo sister can cut a deep wound. Well , she did. The other day cuz I called her some mean names so she did the same back. I would think Mars in Gemini would be verbally vindictive... Maybe Scorpio Mars does it in other ways? I'm not sure lol

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posted January 24, 2016 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Usually whenever there's a fight, my argument is the better one
But because I talk super loud, I'm always the one to get in trouble 😝😫

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posted January 24, 2016 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that that is the main reason that I have never got myself involved with a Mars in Scorpio.Most I know tend towards extremes.

I had one in particular whom I was flirting with years back. And the one thing that I noticed about him was that if he didn't like something,his passion for its dislike would be so intense

And whenever I disagreed with his view point,it ended up with us arguing because I think he felt I "attacked" him. Oih! We could never agree to disagree.

All in all, Mars in Scorpio is not my favorite Mars by far. They seem to lack the objectivity that I need when arguing.


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posted January 24, 2016 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a really bad Scorpio Mars. It's conjunct my Asc on the 00th Degree (exact) in the first, Square my Merc, Sun and Neptune, Trine my Venus, and Opposite my Saturn. I used to get angry very easily when I was younger, screaming at the top of my lungs in the middle of class at people in the hallway XD
I'm honestly shocked I never got in trouble for doing that.

Now I've learned to calm down. I still can get really angry, but it's not as explosive so to speak. I've learned to keep it under control and I've become more verbal with my anger, yet extremely sharp-tongued lol (probably something I shouldn't be laughing about).

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posted January 24, 2016 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmiqPhuz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Elysia:
Right, yeah. There are so many octaves of energy that are expressed.
Sorry you got the bad egg(s).

Haha, it's not always bad! Sometimes, when they're doing nice things for you, it can be too much as well.

I was helping my one friend load equipment in and out for his band's gig one time. At the end of the night, he offered to give me all his pay from the gig. I didn't take it, and I appreciated the offer, but it was overkill haha.

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posted January 24, 2016 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for diamondbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sunflower-moon:
Has anyone else noticed this about those with their Mars in Scorpio? When you get into an argument with one they fly off the deep end and absolutely nothing is off limits. They aim to hurt and if it's below the belt, even better! My mom and sister are like this and I've just realized they both have their Mars in Scorpio. Those are the only two Scorpio Mars I've been close to (I think) and they are the only two people I've, personally, had this problem with. Celebrity-wise I could only think of Mel Gibson and Charlie Sheen who do the same kind of thing and they both have their Mars in Scorpio too!

Not to say that everyone with their Mars in Scorpio is like that, obviously there are countless other things at play but has anyone else noticed this, or had similar problems with someone who had this placement?


My husband has Scorpio Mars and he is exactly like this.

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posted January 25, 2016 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Haha, it's not always bad! Sometimes, when they're doing nice things for you, it can be too much as well.

I was helping my one friend load equipment in and out for his band's gig one time. At the end of the night, he offered to give me all his pay from the gig. I didn't take it, and I appreciated the offer, but it was overkill haha.


D'aww that's really cute. Yes, we can be pretty awesome too.

I'm guilty of the overkill thing too, both ways. Like Aries23degrees said, extremes - not everyone's cup of tea. But if we love you, we will do absolutely anything for you.

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posted January 26, 2016 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoStellarOne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My dad has Mars in Scorpio and he's very nasty in arguments that he would often start. The last time I spoke to him was October 2014 because he was trying to get inside of my head to disrupt my retention of information for my boards exam to become a therapist. He wanted to know when I was going to take the exam, however my sister warned me not to tell him the date. Instead, I gave him a fake date and coincidently he picked an arguement the day before the fake date going as far as saying that my brother and sister were better than me and that he's going to see what I'm going to do once my mother drops dead. Honestly, to me, I perceived that he's always had that on his chest because I knew he never really loved me (which is ok because I never really felt a connection to him) but the fact that I'm okay with that burns him up, but what does he expect? He was never really around too much. It doesn't help at all that my Mercury is in Aqaurius because that forms a Square aspect to alot of Scorpio Mars natives. Usually I have trouble with them regardless of being a Pisces.

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I would say from personal experience that the answer to this question is YES. I have Scorpio Mars and I could unleash death with words upon anyone that deserved it. Plus I will die before I back down. Arguments continue to escalate until the other person backs down.

Being aware of how I am though, I keep these things in the back of my mind and prefer to not bring them out. I don't like to get angry so I do my best to avoid getting in argumentative situations nowadays.

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posted February 01, 2016 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I would say from personal experience that the answer to this question is YES. I have Scorpio Mars and I could unleash death with words upon anyone that deserved it. Plus I will die before I back down. Arguments continue to escalate until the other person backs down.

Being aware of how I am though, I keep these things in the back of my mind and prefer to not bring them out. I don't like to get angry so I do my best to avoid getting in argumentative situations nowadays.


That's how I am with my Scorpio Mars; especially since it's in the Scorpio Duad.It's conjunct my Ascendant though, so it just makes me even louder lol.

I just can get ticked-off easily, so a lot of times I tend to restrain myself from making insults that would otherwise be unnecessary. It makes me wonder if I can do more damage than intended.

The catchphrase for this placement should be: YOU MUST DIE!!!

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posted February 01, 2016 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My ex said to me recently "whenever you get mad you try to get back at me"

This is kind of true. I mean he ****** me off! He deserved it. And I wasn't doing it to just be mean for no reason, he deserved it.

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posted February 02, 2016 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To the people who seek vengeance...do you avoid ******* off others out of fear of their own vengeance? How hard do you try not to **** off others?

I happen to one who gets her revenge, but she's surprised when she finds others don't take her crap either. It could be other placements that make her less able to understand others and their motivations (she's very good with feelings, but that's not the same as understanding people or their perspectives).

And my Scorpio mom (Leo Mars) is vengeful, but in her case she thinks people are out to get her anyway, so she's trying to get them first, and thus her getting revenge is simply because "that enemy now has my full attention," and while technically revenge, it's more like just being in the wrong place at the wrong time, and she'd assume the worst about you from the start. It's like she'll sting anyone, but of course if someone takes a poke at her (which they sometimes will when she stings them) then she'll sting that person first. So it's not technically revenge (though she thinks they all deserve it, even if she herself doesn't know for sure what specific reasons apply). The story of the scorpion and frog reminded me of my Scorpio mom.

I guess I'm ultimately asking, does this drive for vengeance come from a need to dominate? Or is it just plain lack of impulse control (*)?

(* The only reason ANY of us are alive at all is because people have restrained their desire to kill us at some point or another. 'Course if you pay close attention to the news, you'll see plenty don't as they kill each other over a bus seat, because one felt he didn't get enough free hot sauce packets from the fast food drive through window, arguments on how to load a dishwasher, and perhaps the one that takes the cake in my instant recall of such absurdity is the one who knew the snowball that hit him as he was dumb enough to walk past boys in a snowball fight was not meant for him, yet he went home--and thus had time to calm down--and came back with his gun to murder that boy, even though he said he knew it was an accident on the boy's part. Don't know if any such killers ever thought if they themselves now deserve to die for doing so much worse than what they themselves killed over, but surely they knew they were destroying their own lives in the process by becoming a killer, which I presume is a lack of impulse control.)

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