posted February 15, 2016 09:14 AM
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Originally posted by Comatoes:
It takes two to tango, I'm very wary of people flat out calling a person a egoist or any such names...what is the wife doing in this relationship, why is he burned out, how is his sickness affecting the relationship, what kind of sickness does he have. Is materialism a problem with their relationship? The way we get sick shows the stressors based on planets, what is her definition of why her husband is a egoist besides he doesn't open up? Not opening up is not a egoist. How does the wife try to connect. How does she feel about her husband being sick? How does the husband attempt to connect? Without a time of birth for husband, it's a incomplete picture. Synastry chart needs to be done, for personal points and houses. Men with Venus in Leo may have a tendency to want to take care of the wife's every need. She has Venus in Scorpio, so she has great needs and with her Sun in Libra in 2nd house, she seems like she has a strong value set. I think they have a Mars conjunct Venus Leo synastry aspect -- strong male vs. female dynamic, it's flipped though, as she is Mars and he is Venus. He has a stressed Saturn and Jupiter, and she has a stressed Mars. Never underestimate how bad Jupiter can be in a chart. They both have Mars/Mercury aspects which means irritated and rage underneath their communication as a whole.
He may not even have a 12th house of planets, which will completely change the whole thing...His multiple T-square shows fear, vulnerability, excess, restriction, doubt.
Thank you so much for your valuable reply Comatoes!
To me something isn't quite right. Of course I know them. And just because this whole thing is bigger than my question is it took me so long to reply. Because I trying to understand it as much as I can, if that is even possible. You know, from what we see between them. She is always pushing him away. He can never do anything right. Very picky and Virgoan of her. Virgo Moon can be that way. The story goes that she has asked him to love her (Scorpio Venus), please love me! But he fails. And why? We cannot see into their four walls. It seems that he is very busy with work, work, work and is having a mental approach to everything. That I can clearly see and it's true. That is hard for someone who longs for emotional contact. But ... to me there could be quite a deal of projection going on from her side. That's why I said her moon conjunct Saturn doesn't let him get near. He is free, loose, fun, all over the place, very active as I said. She is calm, a little restricted and attentive and wants him more family oriented I guess. I find it hard to reply as there is so much more in play than my initial question. So I will just rant a little and see where it goes.
Of what I have witnessed and we have seen this couple so many times as they were our neighbours for 9 years, is that she is always nagging on him and then he leaves her alone. Of course it could be that there is a story before that. Of how he is not able to give her what she needs and therefor she started nagging. But something is just not right. It seems he gets all the blame now. He has to work on himself like she has done all the work and has given him so many chances. It's hard for an outsider to see what is really going on that's why I found it interesting to see their charts.
In my view every couple has a task. They are so karmically tied with sun/saturn and her node square his Moon (emotional challenge). And, there is never one to blame. She also acknowledges that but still thinks he has more work to do.
Only time will tell if he will be tamed into something else or will transform and will deal with his emotional side (issues).
He is kind of materialistic as in, he finds status much more important than she does. The inner him though is not at all like that. He is the successful businessman. And he has symptoms of a burn out from that and their moving house and now their relationship problems coming to the fore. He admitted after one year that he has cheated on her. That makes it a little harder. Luckily she is open minded and knows things like that can happen. But, it's too late. Why did he not tell her? He was so afraid and didn't tell anyone. That's why he is broken now. I know the woman he cheated with. She is just like him. Fun, loose, playful etc.. So yeah, he might be egocentric or an egoist but there is a lot more going on.
It's beautiful that this whole situation makes me and my husband closer. We also had our share of things but it's nothing compared to this. I am learning from this and I know from my own situation that everything I blame someone else for I should look for inside myself.
Be back ...
Lindaland
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posted February 13, 2016 09:29 PM
posted February 14, 2016 12:12 AM
You just want people to shine and tell their truth. It's beautiful! Just as Faith's way is beautiful.