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Mergoatsun
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posted February 24, 2016 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Spongebob:
I had a shrink tell me that anxiety disorders arent actual mental illness. I think they siad garden variety depression (not manic) isnt either.

Im already placing bets this thread is going to take a hard left.


Clearly he wasn't thinking straight. In psychology we technically call them disorders, but it personally helps me to call it an illness. To me my conditions are just as serious as any physical illness.

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posted February 24, 2016 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
I don't like the idea of being labelled mentally ill, but I definitely feel ill when the anxiety and/or depression strikes. And the anger, in recent years. It's an entirely different head space, and I feel feverish and out of it, until it passes.


I was told I most likely had PTSD, eleven years ago. I definitely have it now. Depression, anxiety, very dark feelings.


That's okay, not everyone does. I know I struggled with it for years, I didn't want anyone to look down at me for having it or for being "crazy". However, I realized that it was just the stigma surrounding mental illness that made me hesitant to speak about it. Now I'm very vocal about everything because I know that if someone else sees that they aren't alone in this experience that it could change their life like it did mine.

Thank you for sharing. It is truly a tough time of year, I'm having a darker time as well

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posted February 24, 2016 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12muddy:
Diagnosed PTSD, and some symptoms of depersonalization as a side dish.

It mostly consisted of flashbacks, sometimes nightmares and feelings of paranoia. Mmm they developed partly because of traumatic events, but mostly because of the forced "treatments" I received. The traumatic events made me angry at the injustice and cruelty I faced, it gave the occasional nightmares, outbursts and problematic behavior, but nothing that could be counted as symptoms of a serious illness. Heh I think I didn't really have problems to begin with. If it wasn't for those treatments, it would not have grown into something else.

Anyway, when I grew up I got myself some decent treatment. At that time I already knew how my mind works, and along with the treatment, I "isolated" the problem and tried by best to not let it bleed into other areas of my life. Having cap placements helped, sometimes when I woke up from a nightmare and couldn't go back to sleep, I would take out my homeworks or do some reading. "Nightmares" lost their edges, they slowly became just "bad dreams". Eventually life turned a new page, lots of stuff happening...etc... Whatever that had a hold on me, doesn't anymore. I don't get flashbacks, occasionally I get "bad dreams", pretty rare though. Sometimes I get unexplained uneasy feelings...etc...small stuff, not serious.


Thank you for sharing your experience 12muddy. I as well have gone through similar experiences with PTSD. I hope the flashbacks aren't appearing for you and that you are feeling well

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posted February 24, 2016 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@teasel wow amazing natal data! Powerful, I wonder if anyone else has similar positions?

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posted February 24, 2016 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nyctea:
I have Moon inconjunct Pluto. Scorpio in the 4th and Pluto in the 5th. I use whole signs bc it's more accurate in my case.

Afflicted Moon in Taurus... that's probably the reason for most of my problems, my mom wasn't affectionate at all. I'm a mess with emotions. I have anxiety, a few paranoias and also a lot of problems regarding sleep.


I have struggles with my mother as well, she was very abusive. Thank you for sharing. Sleep is such an elusive creature sometimes, I hope you are getting enough.

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posted February 24, 2016 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Faith and hypatia238

Hmmm, that could be. I'm in the middle of a winter storm warning, so the bleakness of the weather doesn't help either

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posted February 24, 2016 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
For the past few years I have been diagnosed as Schizoeffective disorder which is a type of schizophrenia

I don't have it anymore
My psychiatrist said I'm doing so incredibly well that I only have to take half a dose now and one day none at all
So yeah I'm doing really well
But for a long time I wasn't (and that's before I was even diagnosed) so you could have a look at my chart

I have mercury square Neptune
And north mode square Uranus

All crazy people aspects lmao



Haha! Thanks for sharing Desiring Shadows! My psychiatrist is always cracking jokes with me and I recently upped my antidepressant so I really appreciate you sharing that since many people feel a stigma against psychiatrists. Mercury square Neptune, that must be difficult but I'm glad you are handling it. Thank you again.

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posted February 24, 2016 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
It is weird. This may be an off shoot but I saw a kind of crack in my reality today.

I have studied one Bible teacher for about a year. He really speaks to me and I credit this "crack in my reality" to him.

When I was 14, I asked my father if my mother was Ok.

He said yes.

At that moment, I went into shock/numb.

I thought about my mother all the time. It was like I was locked into this trauma and could not get out.

Recently, I have seen that it is something that was not really "real" and I have been locked into an unreality.

This is very recent.


Hang tight Ami! Your experiences are valid and just because someone else says that she was "ok" does not change what really happened. I hope you are doing well today

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posted February 24, 2016 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VirgoPILL:
thank you for this thread.

No problem! I hope that others are finding strength in the fact that no one is alone in this.

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hypatia238
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posted February 24, 2016 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mergoatsun:
No problem! I hope that others are finding strength in the fact that no one is alone in this.


Yes Mergoatsun is very cool and sweet you started this thread, shows great leadership from your part.

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Mergoatsun
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posted February 24, 2016 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Yes Mergoatsun is very cool and sweet you started this thread, shows great leadership from your part.

Thank you that really means a lot. It's been a really rough road for me accepting my own mental health, and I really felt alone through most of it. So my greatest hope is that if someone is struggling they can see that others have struggled as well and they aren't alone. I really resonate with Ophelia the asteroid and repressing of feelings/madness. I also really resonate with Melancholia for obvious reasons haha. I know they are asteroids but they are pretty interesting.

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posted February 24, 2016 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mergoatsun:
Thank you that really means a lot. It's been a really rough road for me accepting my own mental health, and I really felt alone through most of it. So my greatest hope is that if someone is struggling they can see that others have struggled as well and they aren't alone. I really resonate with Ophelia the asteroid and repressing of feelings/madness. I also really resonate with Melancholia for obvious reasons haha. I know they are asteroids but they are pretty interesting.


My Melancholia trines exact my Venus and Mars and conjuncts my Neptune in the 1st by around 2d.

My Nostalgia conjuncts my Neptune in the 1st by about 1d and squares exact my Sun.

Ophelia sextiles my Venus and inconjuncts my Moon the ruler of my 8th and conjuncts my Ex Venus and Pluto!.

The only time in my life that I suffered severe deep depression was after him and I broke up and after a few years of not been able to recover I decided to give medication a try bc I couldn't live feeling like that any longer, I reached my limit; overcoming the depression that resulted from our break up was one of the hardest things I have had to do. I took medication for about a year and it was the only thing that finally made a difference. I hated the idea of taking medication but when you truly need it badly it can change your life and make a big difference.

His ophelia and TARDIS conjuncts my Moon on his DC, the breakup was very hard for him too.

Ophelia is no joke! Ophelia is to me about deep unquestionable devotion and the loss of a loved one you are so deeply devoted to and mad about which may lead to madness or suicide.

Mind you when we broke up transit chiron was squaring his Saturn in Libra and activating the midpoint between my 2nd house ruler and 8th house ruler and I have saturn in scorpio indicating destined lessons about loss, attachment and the power of sex.

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posted February 25, 2016 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireBird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
It is weird. This may be an off shoot but I saw a kind of crack in my reality today.

I have studied one Bible teacher for about a year. He really speaks to me and I credit this "crack in my reality" to him.

When I was 14, I asked my father if my mother was Ok.

He said yes.

At that moment, I went into shock/numb.

I thought about my mother all the time. It was like I was locked into this trauma and could not get out.

Recently, I have seen that it is something that was not really "real" and I have been locked into an unreality.

This is very recent.


Hi Ami...can you describe visually what this "crack" looks like to you, or unreality?

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posted February 25, 2016 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LittleBlackCat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DON'T QUOTE. THANKS.
I have a very random/rare disorder. Basically my brain distorts my reflection/physical features.
Here is one of my posts talking about it from another thread.

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Originally posted by LittleBlackCat:
I have very little idea of what I actually look like. I can only isolate features individually but I am unable to form an idea of what those features create together. For example, I can look at myself and see that I have thick arched brows, a small button nose, and a wide mouth. However, lots of people can have that same description and still look very different from each other. So, with this disorder, I am very much like a person reading a book. Several ppl can read the same description of a character in a book, yet each will imagine their own unique imagery. So I have a description of myself, but what I imagine those features to create changes all the time. There is no definite image of what I truly look like, and staring too long into a mirror only further complicates this (due to the dysformic nature of the disorder).

So since I can't see what others are seeing when they look at me anyway I try to keep a simple perspective. If someone finds me beautiful, I feel very appreciative and also that their compliment subconsciously reflects a spiritual meaning of beautiful. If someone finds me ugly I remind myself that it's not my place to care. Again, I can't see what they see either way so I naturally spend more time on being a beautiful person (having good manners), developing a beautiful mind (studying, learning, etc.), and seeing beauty in things other than myself.


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posted February 25, 2016 01:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PTSD, from being assaulted. I've mostly moved on from it, though I still have a few triggers.

Depression related to living with chronic illness every day.

Chiron in Cancer on 5th/6th house cusp opposite Saturn in Capricorn/11th house

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posted February 25, 2016 05:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FruityLlama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am having my implant taken out today. Im displaying symptoms of anxiety and depression. Its only just clicked it might be this implant thing.
i have no history of depression but i am a worrier naturally.
i have saturn trine Asc, saturn in 10th in Pisces. It semi squares my sun and moon.

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posted February 25, 2016 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Little Black Cat

Does this have a name? I think I have read about it.

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posted February 25, 2016 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
For the past few years I have been diagnosed as Schizoeffective disorder which is a type of schizophrenia

I don't have it anymore
My psychiatrist said I'm doing so incredibly well that I only have to take half a dose now and one day none at all
So yeah I'm doing really well
But for a long time I wasn't (and that's before I was even diagnosed) so you could have a look at my chart

I have mercury square Neptune
And north mode square Uranus

All crazy people aspects lmao


DS,
That's what I thought when you told me the meds (I had read up on some of these disorders and their treatment). The friend I was telling you about, has bipolar. I had looked up all related disorders and their meds, when he got diagnosed and was prescribed one.

It's great to hear that you're doing so well now.

You're an intelligent person, take care of that brain of yours.

Sending you *hugs*.

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posted February 25, 2016 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spongebob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are YOU a therapist?

And it was three separate ones actually and only one was male

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posted February 25, 2016 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Spongebob:
...Websites?

Everyday all day i see people on the internet trying to diagnose other people with some kind of psychological disorder - if they don't like the person, that is.

People can post anything on the internet.

Ive been to a couple shrinks in my day. Both made a point of telling me social anxiety is not mental illness, that mental illness has to do with issues with reality.

I don't see leprechauns skipping around my room or hear voices, or (like some brad i used to know) think I'm a literal angel put here to save humanity from the anti-christ so...


Not just websites.

And, there are degrees and types of mental illness. Just like every other illness.

For instance, just because you have a fever and are coughing a little doesn't mean you have pneumonia.

Wounds left untended fester and poison the body. Illnesses left unchecked, fester and poison the mind. It's better to catch them early and treat them the best we can, while we can.

P.S. They can be physically debilitating too, to a great extent. That's probably why there's a focus on calling them an 'illness' or 'disorder', etc.

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posted February 25, 2016 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Spongebob:
Are YOU a therapist?

And it was three separate ones actually and only one was male


Told you.

YOU ARE the "left turn" in this thread that you predicted.
You knew that you planned on doing it and planted the seed in that first post.
That's exactly how you were able to predict it. You planned on stirring up drama from the start.

How's that for online psychoanalysis?

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posted February 25, 2016 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DS

Can you list how close these placements are? The neptune etc?

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posted February 25, 2016 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DopGang:
Told you.

YOU ARE the "left turn" in this thread that you predicted.
You knew that you planned on doing it and planted the seed in that first post.
That's exactly how you were able to predict it. You planned on stirring up drama from the start.

How's that for online psychoanalysis?


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posted February 25, 2016 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
DS

Can you list how close these placements are? The neptune etc?


Sure! It's in my signature.

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posted February 25, 2016 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
Sure! It's in my signature.


I think it's 4 or 6 degrees...
I can't check rn

All I know Is I reduced the orb to 70% and it's still there so it obviously was small enough to count

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