posted March 05, 2016 01:27 PM            

I think Neptune was squaring Mum's sun over the last year. She lost her oldest sister to cancer. And Dad has lost two siblings over the past two years.

posted March 05, 2016 06:29 PM              

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Originally posted by Gemmi:
Thank you for all the comments. Does anybody know if simultaneous Saturn transits help to lift Neptune’s fog? I am currently going through many hard Saturn transits to the same planets/points Neptune is or will be soon affecting. I think things are a bit clearer for me now and with Saturn the reality of the situation becomes so obvious, that most of the time I know exactly what I need to do.

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I think that Saturn (or in my case, T Pluto and N Saturn) can help ground the Neptune transits a bit, maybe?

About a year or two ago, I had the following transits:

T Neptune conjunct Sun, H8
T Neptune opposite Moon/H2
T Neptune square NN and Neptune/H5
T Pluto opposite Saturn/H11

That's not mentioning the transits that had just passed by a few degrees.

I had A LOT happen in that time.

I had to let go of some situations/people willingly, because it was the right thing to do, and very much in line with my path.

None of that included family members or close loved ones.
I definitely drank too much at that time, which went away with the transit.

I came very close to making a very grave decision, and the wrong decision. I was, however, guided with a jolt back to what I needed to be doing, via a very clear dream. All of that was very Neptunian in nature.

That dream was symbolic, but I've had them before.

There was some emotional severing, and a huge move that proved very draining on my shared finances with my husband.

But we're all still intact (*knock on wood*), and I do wonder if that Pluto/Saturn and Pluto/Pluto (which had just passed for me) helped clarify the fog of the Neptune transit.

posted March 05, 2016 06:51 PM              

interestingly I am in a similiar boat currently.

Tr Neptune square NN-Neptune (and conjunct Jupiter)
Tr Pluto opposite Saturn in 8th house

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Tr Uranus just having squared Saturn and conjunct Chiron

posted March 05, 2016 07:07 PM              

I could be wrong about that, but don't we both also have asteroid KARMA at 16 degrees Gemini or so?

posted March 06, 2016 12:11 AM            

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Originally posted by Gemmi:
Thank you for all the comments. Does anybody know if simultaneous Saturn transits help to lift Neptune’s fog? I am currently going through many hard Saturn transits to the same planets/points Neptune is or will be soon affecting. I think things are a bit clearer for me now and with Saturn the reality of the situation becomes so obvious, that most of the time I know exactly what I need to do.

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Yes, I think in cases where you are under Neptune's fog, Saturn transits, even hard ones can help you see reality as it truly is. Probably one of the few times when I would welcome harsh Saturn transits.

posted March 06, 2016 04:58 AM              

yes, that`s true. Karma on 16°01 Gemini. I hadn`t even payed attention to Tr Saturn opposing this, but you`re right of course. My Karma is in my 7th house, so that`s interesting.
Tr Saturn also conjuncts my Sun/Mars-mp currently on 15°33 Sag (though it is slowly moving away), it also has passed the exact opposition to my Karma on friday.

Hmm, there is some heavyness going on, but in a way I don´t feel it too dampening, just more some kind of: It is what it is-feeling.
This is interesting, too as my Karma squares my n Juno on 16°58 Pisces, so Tr Saturn is squaring this as well. and also sextile my Moon on 17°06 Aqua (applying to it at least), and quinkunx my own Saturn on 16°57 Cancer, which of course gets the opposition from Tr Pluto.

Not sure how I feel about it yet.

Funny thing was I was thinking about that on friday I think, realizing the first exact hit of that Tr Pluto-n Saturn had happened just 2 days prior, and was musing how maybe whenever Tr Moon would enter into this picture, this would be somehow important. Turned out that coincidentally when I thought this Tr Moon had been conjunct Tr Pluto under one degree applying to my n Saturn.
Sometimes, I swear, I feel like I have an inbuilt astro-clock. lol

Nothing bad happened though.

posted April 13, 2016 12:22 PM            

Tr Neptune is forming a grand square with n MC/Lilith, n Mercury (opposite) and n Mars. It's absolutely horrific. I've been looking forward to Tr Saturn on my MC and going through 10 H because I'm finishing my studies, it should be a very productive year in that regard, I was supposed to have my Master paper finished by now and have loads of money saved to go backpacking away. But there's that bloody Neptune making everything so difficult.

My natal chart is very light in Neptune, although I am a dreamer in many ways, I've had progressed Pisces ASC most of my life, but damn, I guess I'm not the person to rejoice in neptunian fruits.
I've gone through months of severe depression (I realize that only now, then it seemed "normal"), couldn't keep a job, retail and waitressing seemed so physically and emotionally draining, I've had people yell at me, and it was too stressful, they were also exploiting me, lying me about my paycheck and not paying extra hours (I know, that's the cruel reality of capitalism, but still) etc etc. Any other period in my life I'd fight back, make the best of the situation, now I didn't have the strength.

I've almost completely distanced myself from my friends, I just thought I had nothing to offer them and also they to me... felt like they could do nothing to improve my mood, I would just drag them down. I'm more or less isolated now in my parents house, reading news from all over the world, fantasizing about my future travels and practicing yoga. Yoga has actually been the best thing that has come out of this hellish transit, I've started it because I somewhere read that it helps with mild depression, and now I'm hooked. I'm also much more calm, things don't aggravate me as they used to, feel more connected to my dog, love spending time with her and nature.

A lot of my dreams are connected with the guilt I feel about my masters, I dream my mentor ALL the time, and I always feel like sh1t after that. Although I used to be really motivated about the topic I am to research and it was my sincere goal, it's like I just can't start writing, it's like I'm floating aimlessly, wind just carrying me around and days passing by so quickly. The more static I am, the faster time passes by.

posted April 13, 2016 04:34 PM            

Honestly, it has sucked. A lot. I never thought I would look forward to a Saturn transit but Saturn squaring my Virgo stellium and opposing my Moon/Mars was like coming up for air, or being tossed a life raft in a hurricane.

With Neptune and Chiron, I've been physically ill to the point where I couldn't think about anything else other than the pain. That kind of chronic stress has been tough on my body and mind. My body and appearance has changed because of it - and it's something that will take time and diligence to resolve. Neptune made it easy (and even welcoming) to just sink into that helpless, depressed mindset. Like it was okay to not be able to see anything past what I was feeling. Advice from other people just seemed cruel and misplaced. It's hard to see the truth when you're trapped in a thick fog.

Saturn thankfully gave me a sense of self reliance that I didn't have before or hadn't appreciated prior to becoming sick. The fog has mostly lifted and so has my illness for the most part. Or the treatment plan is working. Whatever has happened, I'm grateful. I feel more comfortable making plans now and working towards goals. I trust my decisions instead of second guessing them.

What helps is reliable and honest friends or family. People you knew before the transit. People who have your back, but also aren't afraid to tell you when you're sounding unreasonable or irrational. (My Cap Sun mom was great for this - nothing like a big dose of Cap wisdom to jolt you back into reality.) People who encourage you to take your time making decisions. Keeping a journal helps too - sometimes reading what I was thinking during a difficult time was helpful.

I also tried to be patient with myself. I didn't berate myself for "getting lost" in dreamland for a little while, but I always remembered to come back.

posted April 13, 2016 04:35 PM            

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Tr Neptune is forming a grand square with n MC/Lilith, n Mercury (opposite) and n Mars. It's absolutely horrific. I've been looking forward to Tr Saturn on my MC and going through 10 H because I'm finishing my studies, it should be a very productive year in that regard, I was supposed to have my Master paper finished by now and have loads of money saved to go backpacking away. But there's that bloody Neptune making everything so difficult.

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Belba, these are very difficult transits. I had Neptune square MC and Moon in the same time. I also went through Neptune square Mars some years ago. As for Neptune square MC, you should make sure that you stay grounded, pay attention to practical issues and set realistic goals. This is extremely important. I know it’s difficult but you have to force yourself… If you have friends with dominant earth signs (preferably Taurus as Virgos are screwed by Neptune as well, and Capricorn might be affected by Pluto), don’t hesitate to ask them for advice. From the perspective of time, I should have listened to my Taurus brother who was giving me sound advice regarding my career but unfortunately I didn’t take it into account… When tr Neptune is squaring your MC, it will affect your IC by square as well. In my case, there was a lot of uncertainty regarding my home and it was always very unclear in what country I would be, where I would live and with whom. Changes of residence were very frequent. These are challenging transits but they will pass. Stay strong! <3

posted April 13, 2016 05:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Gemmi:
Belba, these are very difficult transits. I had Neptune square MC and Moon in the same time. I also went through Neptune square Mars some years ago. As for Neptune square MC, you should make sure that you stay grounded, pay attention to practical issues and set realistic goals. This is extremely important. I know it’s difficult but you have to force yourself… If you have friends with dominant earth signs (preferably Taurus as Virgos are screwed by Neptune as well, and Capricorn might be affected by Pluto), don’t hesitate to ask them for advice. From the perspective of time, I should have listened to my Taurus brother who was giving me sound advice regarding my career but unfortunately I didn’t take it into account… When tr Neptune is squaring your MC, it will affect your IC by square as well. In my case, there was a lot of uncertainty regarding my home and it was always very unclear in what country I would be, where I would live and with whom. Changes of residence were very frequent. These are challenging transits but they will pass. Stay strong! <3

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Thank you so much for your kind words <3 I appreciate it a lot. The most important thing for me now is to write the thesis, something that is very realistic and I should be able to do quite easily, but seems so hard all of a sudden. I have to prevent myself from hoping on a plane to other continent and start living there (although I've got barely enough money saved for a plane ticket and things to pack ), this kind of escaping seems so tempting. And I do force myself everyday to take small steps to at least do something of "importance", so that I don't completely fall into hibernation. I do have friends with earth elements, both Cap and Taurus planets, I love them <3 but, the thing is, that they're all in this funny stage of life, looking for a job, still studying, living with parents or altogether confused as to what to do in life, with vague ideas about the future, the sad reality of our generation, they have their own problems, and I don't want to bother them with mine too much. My parents aren't exactly supportive, they've been excessively critical of me, even when I was doing fine. But today my mother came to me and gave me a brochure of some guy she met that proposed that I could volunteer at some workshops in my discipline, and I almost started to cry. It moved me that she was trying to help me, but at the same time I was so angry at myself, because ideally I should be doing volunteering on number of issues that concern me, I care for them, but I just can't fulfill the basic "duties" I should be doing.

sorry, I'm rambling again. It's just I don't really confide in a lot of people, I always internalize my problems. I definitely should reach out to others more, as you've suggested

Oh, you've mentioned changes of residence.. I can identify with that a lot. Idea of living abroad, going travelling somewhere and staying, changing countries, being spontaneous and fluid in my decisions has grown in almost my life philosophy during this transit. My mindset has changed dramatically, I've become much less materialistic, don't buy stuff, don't care for that, could live a very minimalist life, or that is what I imagine for myself in the future. So, all in all, it has not been THAT bad but again, this is all in my head, I'm not doing anything. It's really easy to fall into self pitying and despair, but I'm still fighting to not give up

posted April 14, 2016 09:17 AM            

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Originally posted by Koniucha:
I'm having transit Saturn conjunct Neptune

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posted April 15, 2016 11:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:

It's caused me to slack in school because my motivation has been literally drained from me and I've felt like crap. The squares aren't even at their most powerful!

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I've experienced that. In the last year, I've had to retake two classes. One of the ways I've coped with lack of motivation and such is redbulls. That's how I passed all my 13 college credits in the summer.
I know it's not healthy, but with school while working, I feel like I have so much to do, that I should be doing lines of coke to realistically get everything done.

I've struggled with stamina and endurance that's for sure.

This school year I've cut back on redbulls a lot. More coffee, and supplements. And a redbull once a week.

I've also been telling myself that I'm almost done, and what I have to do now to get everything done is temporary.

I made friends with a girl, who I can ask questions, and get together with. That has helped me feel less overwhelmed.

posted January 19, 2020 02:08 PM            

In my early to mid 20's I had Neptune conjunct Venus transit. I was involved with a *uck boy. Wanted to occupy all my time, but did not want to call me his GF. I acted like his commitment issues didn't bother me. It was a passionate fling that lasted too long (almost 3 yrs.) People tried to ask me if I was okay not being called a girlfriend. The more this went on the more it bothered me. But never really had a talk.
Luckily Saturn in Sagittarius came along and Squared my Venus. Saturn put an end to that!

The day before I ended things with this guy I put his picture facing down in my bedroom. Then I threw the picture out the window the next day after our talk. But then when the snow melted I shredded it. I got rid of all his things and gifts. I even wrote his name on a piece of paper and burned it.

The Neptune square my Gemini ASC, felt like one of the most dragged out transits EVER. Lots of ups and downs with jobs and schools.(Neptune in Pisces is my 10th house) Roller coaster. Having bad job experiences push to something better. Somethings better but then something else is worse.

When the transit is done it's suppose to be like a dream come true. Wouldn't that be nice?
I have a better job "on paper" once again. Pretty much when my Neptune Square ASC transit is done. My Pluto square Aries Sun transit starts up. I cannot work well with my boss at all right now. It's always been an issue but it's reached it's climax on Friday.

Anyways when I want to move on or get out of a situation I write what I want to get rid of on paper and I burn it.

I am very vulnerable with this transit going on so I am looking for protection and power and such though occult matters. Law of Attraction, Candles, herbs, essential oils, gems. Color therapy/psychology/power etc.

I have no idea how everything is going to turn out, but I think this is a transit where I really do not take peoples **** even if they are my boss. If this transit doesn't do it, well my Uranus conjucnt my Mercury Taurus will.
I will be able to shut people down so much faster now, cause I've worked with so many people now that act like they have a personality disorder. XD

Sorry a little off topic with my other transits.
But another thing with Neptune transits is drug experimentation.
When Neptune conjunct my Aquarius Mars I smoked pot for the first time. I was 17.

During the Neptune square ASC I blew off steam at a music festival and tried LSD. It was fun. I'm glad I did it. Do I need to do it again? Nah. I was 25

posted January 19, 2020 02:50 PM            

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That’s an interesting take, thanks for your input!

I still have the impression that I had no control over what was happening to me during Uranus and Pluto transits as the sources of problems were mostly very external…

With Neptune, the problem is more internal but forcing oneself to take off those rose colored glasses and assess the situation realistically seems to be the main issue…

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I think of Uranus as fun and games. Even when it is a "bad" Uranus transit. When Uranus squared my Jupiter house 2 I was not motivated to have a steady income, and I got away with it. I was one of those "I need a year off" kids after high school. After high school I just went on adventures from summer to November. My mom kind of made me take a placement test for community college, shortly after I told her no, and moved in with a guy. (Saturn in Libra kicked my butt for doing that)

When Uranus conjunct my Sun in Aries I finally felt like an Aries and more like a leader. Made my social life exiting too since Aries is 11th house.
My friend is an Aries ASC and she got pregnant when when Uranus conjunct her ASC. She was in a good place to have the kid too.

Okay Pluto when it's good it's glorious when it's opposing something or Squaring something it exactly a huge power struggle that you have to fight. Makes life seem like a living hell or like you are stuck in some sort of limbo.
When Pluto opposed my Jupiter house 2 my old manager would not give me my W2 and I had to call the IRS on her. The next year during the rx back on it I went though identity theft. It took the IRS forever to take care of it.

With Pluto in the late degrees of Capricorn... Squaring my Aries Sun exactly my boss increasingly drives me more crazy everyday. She doesn't want to have much leadership, and has been signaling me out a ton and deliberately treating me differently and only making a big deal if I do something, and no one else.
It's getting to the point where I have to confront her behavior. Her reaction to my confrontation will be my answer if it is time to get the **** out of there. It ****** me off that is seems like she has no consequence for being rude to me. I want to put a curse on her, and report her expose her and humiliate her...but I am trying not to. Because she is going though her Pluto square as a Libra. She doesn't want to give up any of her power of authority, will come into the office at 4am because she wants everything done her way. What kind of life is that? Seeing me as a leader makes her uncomfortable and she wants me to be codependent on her and the rest of the staff, she will tell me to stop what I am doing because she didn't have a say in it, and tell me to do something else. She is October 15 Libra so when they transit is over for me, she will still be going through the transit. Mwahahahahaaaa. For the past 6 years, no matter where I go I end up having to work with someone who is very condescending. After this transit is over for good, can I please just work with people who are normal?!

posted January 19, 2020 09:17 PM            

interesting about Neptune squaring ASC, i will have this one in 3 years but from IC.

posted January 20, 2020 09:08 AM            

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Originally posted by PlutoInScorpio:
Stawr,

interesting about Neptune squaring ASC, i will have this one in 3 years but from IC.

Is your MC ruler heavily aspected?

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Yes my MC is in Aquarius 16 degrees in the 9th house

posted January 20, 2020 09:41 AM            

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Originally posted by outofideas:
I have been feeling quite Neptunian for a while, and now i know why.
Neptune has been aspecting many of my personal planets the past few years.

I have just come off a square to my Moon in Gemini. It wasn't an easy period of my life, but it's supposed to be eye-opening actually.
It has helped me open up psychically, and has made me quite empathic.
It's pretty bad to be around negative people and situations while Neptune is squaring your Moon, but that's just how it was for me. I've been like a mop for everyone else's negativity, but i'm now more aware of who really cares about me and who doesn't.

A few months ago Neptune conjunct my NN exact (in Pisces, of course, hehe), and i really got deeper in to astrology during this time.

Now Neptune is squaring my MC.
Well, i hope you have exciting stuff to do and you're O.K. financially, as this is not the best time to be on the job market. It is just highly unlikely for you to get a job at this time, if you don't have one.

It's also currently sextiling my natal Neptune and Mercury, as they are conjunct. Among other things, this natal aspect apparently enables you to pick up other people's thoughts and interests and confuse them with your own.

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That reminds me my bf has Gemini moon 10 or 11 degrees. Once this transit was pretty much over he got a new job!

He was at his old job for almost 5 years. The old men there did not want to teach him anything new unless they absolutely had to. It wasn’t too unbearable but knowing he wasn’t going to move up much was pretty demotivating for bf. He had a new job to do once there...but it didn’t last because he stuck up for him self when the supervisor in that area was verbally putting him down. I forgot what the last straw was with bf. It was something after that or maybe it was nothing. Lol

But he got his new job this summer and it looks like he might already get promoted soon! People actually want him to learn new job skills everyday.

posted January 20, 2020 06:59 PM            

but i'm not very worried about this one because i've learned how to be productive and i have a pretty good sense of who i am and my values.. i don't think Neptune can possibly erode who i am... hoping it will be more about artistic creativity

also have natal neptune-moon square, so i've been dealing with boundary issues my whole life already. i think i'm ready for this

posted January 20, 2020 07:31 PM            

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Originally posted by PlutoInScorpio:
Neptune is conjuncting my IC right now and soon squaring my natal Saturn. Next year it will square my natal Moon.

So, from what i read here, buying a House and or getting married is a no no because of this transit?

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Not necessarily, because no single planet's transit(s) decide this. If you're with someone you know well and have established good communications with, have already decided to marry, and things are going smoothly leading up to these transits, you'll likely find some challenges, uncertainties, issues to deal with, but those are transient.

The thing you generally want to avoid during Neptune transits like these is making far-reaching decisions of emotional importance during the transit -- at least all at once; avoid fairy tale thinking that this_______ will solve my problems or the other extreme of thinking: creeping anxiety and pessimism. The latter is possible during a Neptune transit square both natal Moon and Saturn.

Generally, I'd say:

(a) as to buying a house, see if you can put it off until these transits are over. Deal with things on more a basic level, because this type of transit is largely psychological and very often home ownership or buying something big obscures or confuses these psychological matters that need to be clarified and seen as places of growth.

(b) as to marriage, understand that Neptune's purpose in such hard aspects is to dissolve ego patterns or patterns of victimhood that will no longer work for you as survival or defense mechanisms. Those will start to become more and more dysfunctional as if they were amplified. Confusion and mental/emotional stress will increase. It is important that we let the process of the transit play out without judgment or escape mechanisms so that we can learn about ourselves. Neptune is a tranpersonal planet that helps our soul growth by nudging us beyond ego into greater compassion and perception.

posted January 21, 2020 02:22 PM            

I have survived this period but I didn't thrive. The main problem was that things were either blocked or moved very slowly or I didn't have energy to fight so certain areas were just uneventful.

When Neptune was in 6th house and squared my natal MC and then Moon in 10th house I was unemployed for a long time. When it moved on to 7th house I already had a job but all relationships became very messy.

Other transits that happended either brought a relief or made things worse, depending on what was going on simultanously. During this time areas affected by tr Saturn were the most in order and I even bought a home during tr Saturn in 4th house transit which was a great decision!. So yeah, I would really recommend looking at what tr Saturn is doing in your chart, as to the areas where the situation should be less foggy.

Many aspects of my life were difficult and put on hold because of these hard Neptune transits. I hope that now when tr Neptune leaves me alone things will finally accelerate : )