posted March 03, 2016 01:38 PM            

I have the impression that with hard Neptune transits, as opposed to hard Pluto transits for example, we DO have some choice but the situation is so unclear and confusing that we do not opt for what is rational or good for us in the long run… However, most often the problems could have been avoided if I had recognized and accepted the reality of the situation.

What are your experiences with hard Neptune transits? Do you think they can be overcome and if so, what are your tips to minimize their negative effects?

posted March 03, 2016 01:45 PM            

It's caused me to slack in school because my motivation has been literally drained from me and I've felt like crap. The squares aren't even at their most powerful!

posted March 04, 2016 04:51 AM            

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
Right now, transit Neptune forms a T-Square with my natal Pluto Opposite Moon...

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Sorry to hear that you are going through a rough time. I am also experiencing tr Neptune square Moon (in Gemini). The transit is not easy but being aware of it does make things better.

posted March 04, 2016 09:47 AM            

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Originally posted by Gemmi:
Sorry to hear that you are going through a rough time. I am also experiencing tr Neptune square Moon (in Gemini). The transit is not easy but being aware of it does make things better.

I am afraid that you might also be affected by tr Saturn which is either conjunct or opposite your natal Moon, depending on the sign of your Moon. I would rather blame this transit for depression and low energy you are experiencing. Earlier this year I went through tr Saturn opposite Moon and it was horrible.

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That sucks. That damn Saturn just has to cause problems :/

posted March 04, 2016 09:51 AM              

Uranus is schocking - but at least I am awake!
Pluto is overwehelming - but at least I can see what he is demanding of me!

posted March 04, 2016 11:33 AM              

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
hat's being stated. It drives me nuts!

Neptune should just like switch off when I'm not working on music lol.

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Totally agree with you!

I`ve had Tr Neptune square my Mars on 5 Sag and ASC on 7 Sag for far too long already and of course now it is square Neptune-NN on 10 Sag. Oh man.

posted March 04, 2016 12:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
I would also like to add that Neptune is also probably making my attention span shorter. Lately I've been noticing that I can't seem to pay attention to what certain people are saying for more than 5 seconds and constantly have to re-assess what's being stated. It drives me nuts!

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That’s very true! I also noticed some problems with written communication.

I remember I read a message and inferred from it things that were not actually there! Only when I re-read this message after some weeks did I realise I completely misread it and attributed wrong intentions to its author! Another manifestation of tr. Neptune square Moon in Gemini!
My Moon is in the 10th house and conjunct MC so my work has also been affected by this transit. I tend to make more mistakes than usual, especially when details are concerned. But I have natal Sun and ASC in Virgo (not yet affected by tr Neptune) so no drama, fortunately.

posted March 04, 2016 12:14 PM            

I feel like my Neptune square ascendant is what makes me so beautiful (people tell me I look like I have a model face. But not the body yet)

Rn I have transiting Pluto Square my Mercury and Venus and Uranus opposition my Mercury and Venus

posted March 04, 2016 12:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

I`d take an Uranus or Pluto transit over Neptune-transits anytime.

Uranus is schocking - but at least I am awake!
Pluto is overwehelming - but at least I can see what he is demanding of me!

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That’s an interesting take, thanks for your input!

I still have the impression that I had no control over what was happening to me during Uranus and Pluto transits as the sources of problems were mostly very external…

posted March 04, 2016 01:26 PM            

I have just come off a square to my Moon in Gemini. It wasn't an easy period of my life, but it's supposed to be eye-opening actually.
It has helped me open up psychically, and has made me quite empathic.
It's pretty bad to be around negative people and situations while Neptune is squaring your Moon, but that's just how it was for me. I've been like a mop for everyone else's negativity, but i'm now more aware of who really cares about me and who doesn't.

A few months ago Neptune conjunct my NN exact (in Pisces, of course, hehe), and i really got deeper in to astrology during this time.

Now Neptune is squaring my MC.
Well, i hope you have exciting stuff to do and you're O.K. financially, as this is not the best time to be on the job market. It is just highly unlikely for you to get a job at this time, if you don't have one.

posted March 04, 2016 01:56 PM              

It was a strange ride, that's for sure. But it was interesting, and sort of pleasant in some ways.

I would think that with any transits, if you try to channel the transit creatively and move with the energy, external issues might not be as negative as they could be?

posted March 04, 2016 06:16 PM            

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Originally posted by outofideas:

Now Neptune is squaring my MC.
Well, i hope you have exciting stuff to do and you're O.K. financially, as this is not the best time to be on the job market. It is just highly unlikely for you to get a job at this time, if you don't have one.

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I went through this transit just before Neptune started squaring my natal Moon.

posted March 04, 2016 08:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Gemmi:
Are transits' effect in general inevitable so that what is meant to happen will happen in one way or another, no matter how much we try to prepare for it?

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No. The greatest difficulty with hard Neptune transits is that they put to the test our (sanity) beliefs about ourselves and things we previously had not encountered that are now proving to be false, creating a friction of 'shoulds' against this reality. Neptune represents our capacity for a suspended reality awareness that does not understand time, thus enabling unfocused idealism, or disillusionment after failures.

The real problems with Neptune come where assumptions or beliefs about things we've never experienced or diminishing beliefs about ourselves that were inherited from earlier relationships/environments.

Those have to be occasionally cleansed.

With Neptune I have a very mixed experience over 46 years, which includes both time in organized religion (to age 19) and mostly outside of it. This is very relevant to Neptune, since it deals in perceptions and beliefs about things we have not personally experienced or are hoping are true (faith).

During Neptune's transit conjunct my natal Moon I began to realize that the religion of my upbringing was not meeting my needs (although I did not describe it that way at the time). That religion was failing the internal, intuitive and real world tests of human needs within myself. During that period I became aware of the choice to view God as Love or to be an athiest. I chose God = Love. During this time Neptune was also contra-parallel natal Mars, so I was able to have these internal realizations unfettered by the outward-oriented aims of ego.

Neptune occasionally helps us cleanse away the accumulated aims of ideations of the interfering ego that prevent full self-realization.

During the 90s I enjoyed some flowing transits by Neptune, but while it and Uranus were contra-parallel my Merucry and Venus. This brought a shift in my thinking and priorities away from materialism and towards a broadened spirituality. I almost entirely internalized this, not communicating much if anything to those still conventional believers around me. I was not yet ready to converse, because while I no longer liked or accepted their terms, I had not yet confidently arrived at my own.

In the early 2000s Neptune made its transit square my Sun-Saturn conjunction. This was a rough time, because I was still too invested in certain gender-based expectations and roles to see my array of choices in life and appreciate where I was and what I had. A very difficult time, especially when Neptune's transit to Saturn dominated 2003-05. This is the time in which I had to allow certain unrealistic expectations for gender roles, future aims to be cleansed away as no longer relevant to me. This is when my ego really got cleansed of this stuff.

It is important to remember that hard transits have a purpose too. We don't have to merely survive them.

Because of core purpose held within each planet, hard transits by any planet can be proactively addressed. With Pluto, letting go of the old one can no longer hold onto within oneself or life circumstances, is the key; a palpable exercise in this is simple slow deep breathing in which one experiences the literal 'letting go' of each and every breath that is essential to remain alive.

With Uranus, one must understand there is greater freedom and new energies to be experienced when there are challenges to personal status quo. Choice comes into play here, and understanding you have more choices than you previously realized, and more options on-the-fly allows sight of creative use of choices that can connect you with a larger societal context of support.

Neptune's purpose is the dissolution of your current time/space limitations to re-engage the imagination, not merely to believe, but to solve problems creatively.

“Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand.”
― Albert Einstein

posted March 05, 2016 07:33 AM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
No. The greatest difficulty with hard Neptune transits is that they put to the test our (sanity) beliefs about ourselves and things we previously had not encountered that are now proving to be false, creating a friction of 'shoulds' against this reality. Neptune represents our capacity for a suspended reality awareness that does not understand time, thus enabling unfocused idealism, or disillusionment after failures.

The real problems with Neptune come where assumptions or beliefs about things we've never experienced or diminishing beliefs about ourselves that were inherited from earlier relationships/environments.

Those have to be occasionally cleansed.

Neptune's purpose is the dissolution of your current time/space limitations to re-engage the imagination, not merely to believe, but to solve problems creatively.

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My experience is that this is spot on. I'm currently experiencing my Neptune square and I have described my state of mind over the last couple of years as 'mad' and indeed took myself into psychotherapy much of the time was spent in exploring what 'madness' actually is. I have never experienced anything like it nor encountered anyone else who has.
I do have a natal Mercury/Neptune conjunction in Sagittarius and I have, of late, realised that the best way for me to overcome the confusion and delusion is to write creatively. (And it's working; my first piece was published )))
Neptune does indeed seem to ask us to be creative in resolving the issues he drags up. Unfortunately, the delusion he brings can seem to cause a delay, (tr. Saturn may have a hand in this as well), in realising what needs to be done to gain resolution.

I cannot wait to see the back of the Neptune-Saturn square...

posted March 05, 2016 07:49 AM              

I just remember very clearly when Tr Neptune was exact squaring my n Mars and at the same time Tr Mars was conjunct my n Neptune, that started a bout of (physical) dizziness that lasted for weeks actually!
To the point I was seeing a doctor, but there was no physical condition apparently.
It gradually slipped away when I just accepted that this was how it was, whenever lying down feeling a little dizzy, and just when I sort of just shrugged my shoulders about it and saying: okay, then so be it, it faded out.

posted March 05, 2016 10:36 AM            

I still pick things up in my body (usually bad feelings, when something bad has happened, or someone is talking about me/angry with me/causing trouble for me), but I feel like my intuition has been worse. And my ability to deal with stress is almost non-existent. I feel like that was the one thing Saturn moving through my 1st, actually helped: I had to get up and keep fighting.
Now, I'm just deflated.

posted March 05, 2016 10:54 AM            

I have seen it also bring about substance abuse which is a way of self-medicating against the intense pain this transit can bring.

If Neptune is squaring or opposing a 6th or 8th house planet, prepare yourself for some confusing illness that doctors cannot figure out.

posted March 05, 2016 11:54 AM            

If you are going through a hard Neptune transit, be aware that all that's shiny is not gold. Avoid extreme spiritualism because this is a time when religious cults will look tempting. Realize that this perfect man or woman you are falling for is NOT perfect and stop idealizing him or her. You are more likely to be taken advantage of by shady people, or you are more likely to deceive yourself about people. Heck, even dreams can be deceiving.

Try to wait out this transit. If possible, don't make any important decisions like getting married, starting a new career, or moving to another country, or divorcing. why? Because your judgement is not very sound at the moment.

Avoid substance abuse, including prescription drug abuse. Very important to eat wholesome foods as it helps you stay grounded.

If you are going through grief, my heart goes out to you because Neptune grief can be the worse. If you have lost a loved one, know that the love you shared is not gone, as long as you are alive. Neptune teaches us to transcend death.