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roseelima16
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posted March 11, 2016 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for roseelima16     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was thinking of that yesterday after watching the videoclip of a song that I love: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acSNejQoz8M

A good part of the scenes was recorded in Rajasthan, Agra and Himalaya, all of them located in India. I have a strong connection with Indian music, dance and spiritual practices. The same happens with Greece. I don't know why since I was born in South America and I never had a contact with any of those things when I was a child/teen. Still, I was and am fascinated by them...

In Mundane Astrology, countries/cities have charts. I found out that both India and Greece share the same rising sign: Capricorn (my Sun sign). I also found a description on the subject by the astrologer Alan Leo in this old thread:

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/009062.html

Do you feel a strong connection to a country in which you weren't born/raised in? If so, which one and why? Do you see any significant relationship between the characteristics of the country and your natal chart?

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Faith
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posted March 11, 2016 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lovely video!

I also love India and dream of visiting someday.

My favorite country that I've visited so far is Germany, specifically I love Bavaria. When I was there I couldn't help crying that I would never live there ~ my travel companions thought I was a little crazy.

But here is my synastry with modern Germany, maybe that explains something? Aside from the fact that it's just a beautiful place.

Germany's moon 18.59 Pisces
My moon 18.12 Pisces

My asteroid Bavaria @ 4.44 Aries trine 6 Sag Venus; Germany has ALPS on my sun.

Many years ago I became friends with a Bavarian woman, over the internet. We never met but I consider her one of my closest friends, because we've gotten to know each other so well through text and the phone. Each year we exchange birthday gifts and she usually sends me Bavarian or German cosmetics and yummy-smelling stuff. My daughter has a German/Scandinavian name and this friend has the same name, though I named my daughter that several years before I met my friend.

I also talk a lot with some Germans here who are very, very smart and have taught me so much. And I am constantly listening to talks by Eckhart Tolle who is German. The list goes on and I am just too lucky...but hey, Germany's JUPITER is right on my ASC.

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posted March 11, 2016 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hemilla     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not really,no.

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posted March 11, 2016 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by roseelima16:
Do you feel a strong connection to a country in which you weren't born/raised in?

Yes. A bit too much.
Actually, for a lot of countries except the one I was born in. Three in particular, in different ways, different *reasons*, to different degrees.

~Want to answer your other questions but..*sigh* It's too convoluted.~

However, I'll draw up a chart and be back later maybe to share what I find.

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posted March 11, 2016 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:

Many years ago I became friends with a Bavarian woman, over the internet. We never met but I consider her one of my closest friends, because we've gotten to know each other so well through text and the phone. Each year we exchange birthday gifts and she usually sends me Bavarian or German cosmetics and yummy-smelling stuff. My daughter has a German/Scandinavian name and this friend has the same name, though I named my daughter that several years before I met my friend.

Wow, that's so sweet!

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posted March 11, 2016 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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roseelima16
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posted March 11, 2016 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for roseelima16     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, Faith, that's interesting. I saw Germany's Jupiter-Bavaria right on your AC. Also noticed the Moon conjunction (soul connection), your Pluto in its IC (maybe your deep attachment to the place), your Sun conjunct its Neptune (you see that place as your dream in terms of living), and your Mercury conjunct its DC-North Node (your communication with other people there, maybe that lady you mentioned, was destined). AC-AC conjunction also shows you identify a lot with the place.

Thanks for posting the synastry and sharing your nice story.

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posted March 11, 2016 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonsai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's weird, but since I was a little kid I've had an almost life-long fascination with Norway. So much so that I started learning the language and went there to try and practice speaking it. Weird stuff as I don't have a single drop of Norwegian blood in me. I found that I enjoyed the people there greatly and they're not as standoffish as they've been described to be. As for whether or not I identify with Norway, I'm not entirely sure. I identify with Europe. I'm mad about Europe, and I loved Germany when I was there. I just seem to like European people more than the people in the country that I live in.

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posted March 11, 2016 04:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes several actually, but I am not sharing.
If I ever get there I'll want it to be all mine.

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posted March 11, 2016 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mooninaries94     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel deeply connected with Israel, I feel like I lived there in another incarnation.
Don't know how to make a synastry with the country, may somebody help me ? Should I add its independence day on the date of birth and Jerusalem in the city ?! ...

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posted March 11, 2016 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for roseelima16     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mooninaries94:
I feel deeply connected with Israel, I feel like I lived there in another incarnation.
Don't know how to make a synastry with the country, may somebody help me ? Should I add its independence day on the date of birth and Jerusalem in the city ?! ...

Hi, mooninaries94

A friend of mine who lived there for 2 years told me the same thing. Yep, use the Independence Date and its capital, Tel Aviv.

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posted March 11, 2016 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgoPILL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
to me it's mexico. can i use astrodiesnt astro click travel?

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posted March 11, 2016 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for roseelima16     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Vajra:

*edit* Oops, sorry for not contributing astro content. Have never checked countries' natal charts but there's a small island state that has become my third home and that had a large impact on me professionally as well so I often go there. Funnily, one day I checked that country's name asteroid and found that it was exactly conjunct my MC. My SO, when I first took him with me to visit that faraway place, immediately felt at home there too... As it later turned out, he has that asteroid exactly conj. his Moon.


Vajra, having asteroids conjunct planets like that and matching real situations is mind blowing. I had some situations like that but never involving countries. I think I'll check it out...

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posted March 12, 2016 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mooninaries94     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I generated a synastry chart, and my NN and Pluto conjunct with Israel's Chiron so living there would bring me pain ?!


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Originally posted by roseelima16:
Hi, mooninaries94

A friend of mine who lived there for 2 years told me the same thing. Yep, use the Independence Date and its capital, Tel Aviv.


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posted March 12, 2016 06:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think this is more a matter for astrocartography.

The places i want to go most, i have prominent planetary lines going through them.

You can get free astrocartography readings at Astrodienst.

Ive been feeling compelled in the past five years to learn French and to go to France, even in spite of questionable, even hostile French teachers that i think were trying to run me off.

My sun-moon, sun-pluto, jupiter-node and venus-uranus lines all cross at Paris, France.

Im going to Paris this summer for a month to study

I have the asteroid "Avignon" conjunct my south node, and the asteroid "Paris" conjunct my sun.

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posted March 12, 2016 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Faith
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posted March 12, 2016 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For those interested in exploring geographic asteroids, here is an

Asteroid Name Search engine

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@roseelima ~ Yes to all Thanks for noticing.

@Vajra~ I love your research. So fascinating! You inspired me to look into place name asteroids more.

Now...keep in mind Uranus rules and squares my DSC.

Town I lived in when I met my husband: 3 Scorpio
Town he lived in, which I moved to, after we got married: 9 Scorpio
My Uranus: 6 Scorpio

I loved that my husband's father was born in a foreign city and spent his childhood there. That city is sandwiched between my Venus and Neptune in Sagittarius.

I guess I could go on and on about favorite places, but I can't find asteroids for each place. I did find:

1) SEDONA, Arizona. I have Sedona at 2 Aqua conjunct Eros, Angel, Buda, and some other asteroids I'm forgetting.

2) MONTANA. I have this at 9 Gemini, on my Venus-Neptune midpoint.

Strange thing is, I love this town in Montana called EUREKA...and I loved a town by the same name in California. I have Eureka @ 22 Pisces conjunct Pallas @ 24 Pisces. Mind you, I have a pattern of liking towns by that name.

Anyway...I need to travel more....

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posted March 12, 2016 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Vajra:
Faith, I bet you have no idea how weird if seems to many Germans when foreigners actually seem to like their country.

I forgot to say...I WAS surprised to learn this when my Bavarian friend explained it to me years ago. I do have an idea of how weird it seems...just a small idea, since I'm not German (sadly ) and can't see it through your eyes.

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posted March 12, 2016 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CupOfDavid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astrocartography is fascinating!

I have an affinity for Sweden, despite the fact that I have never been there. These are only the conjunctions and oppositions:

  • Its Jupiter and Mercury are conjunct my Uranus, Saturn, and Neptune;
  • Its Jupiter is within a degree of my Sun/Moon Midpoint;
  • Its Venus is conjunct my Moon (0°24) and opposite my Jupiter (0°01);
  • Its Moon is opposite my Sun;
  • Its Saturn is opposite my Mars and conjunct my Pluto;
  • Its Uranus is conjunct my Chiron and opposite my Uranus, Saturn, and Neptune;
  • Its Pluto is conjunct my Mars and opposite my Pluto;
  • Its True Node is conjunct my Midheaven (0°17);
  • Its Ascendant is opposite my Ascendant;
  • Its Sun is conjunct my Ascendant; and
  • Its Midheaven is conjunct my Sun, Mercury, and Venus.

A lot of my astro map lines meet in Sweden, so I imagine that I will live there some day.

Edit: Aw, this is post #333! Sweden is SO in my future.

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posted March 12, 2016 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for areesquivel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Asia in general, mostly India right now

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posted March 13, 2016 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mar1982delta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by roseelima16:
I was thinking of that yesterday after watching the videoclip of a song that I love: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acSNejQoz8M

A good part of the scenes was recorded in Rajasthan, Agra and Himalaya, all of them located in India. I have a strong connection with Indian music, dance and spiritual practices. The same happens with Greece. I don't know why since I was born in South America and I never had a contact with any of those things when I was a child/teen. Still, I was and am fascinated by them...

In Mundane Astrology, countries/cities have charts. I found out that both India and Greece share the same rising sign: Capricorn (my Sun sign). I also found a description on the subject by the astrologer Alan Leo in this old thread:

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/009062.html

Do you feel a strong connection to a country in which you weren't born/raised in? If so, which one and why? Do you see any significant relationship between the characteristics of the country and your natal chart?


Hello roseelima16! Very interesting thread! I was absolutely intrigued because I feel very drawn to India and South America too! I also feel that way about China, but I think my first choise is India too! Such a coincidence for you to say that, given the place I come from! May I ask where are you from in South America? If you don't want to say, I understand!
Very beautiful song btw!
I have never thought about this having to do with astrology, but just a while ago I found in astro.com the astrocarography Spongebob is talking about! It's true about me having planetary lines in India, but I still wonder if there are other astrological bonds, too.
Where do you find the signs of countries? I searched for one specifically and several different charts came up, so I don't know where to look to see if there is a pattern for the countries I feel drawn to!
Thank you very much for the idea!

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posted March 13, 2016 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm attracted to Germany. I am American but of mostly German heritage. My mother had genetic tests a few years ago that also confirmed this, although I had already traced my ancestor back as far as I could.

Glancing at the chart Faith put up (which I assume is of German Unity Day) we share Mercury in Virgo, Gemini Mars, Jupiter in Leo, Capricorn stellium of the outer planets, Pluto in Scorpio, Chiron in Cancer and NN in Aquarius. We probably have same/similar asteroids as well. (I guess you all know what my birth year is now, lol.) Germany has Pisces Moon while I have Pisces ASC.

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posted March 13, 2016 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It`s so strange hearing someone speak positively about Germany (landscape).

Though honestly there ARE some places in my homecountry that i find beautiful myself.
My brother totally loves the Alps, too, Faith.

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posted March 13, 2016 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I myself feel home at England and in Ireland. Whenever I put my foot there I swear I can feel energy rise up through the soil into my body (first time in London, it actually was too much of an energy boost, I just wanted to stand in a corner and scream, because I felt so overwhelmed, until I simply went with it, and I miss it so badly at the moment. For the last weeks or so especially. Also funny enough whenever I leave London and then when leaving England and driving through Brussels, I always feel nauseous. Always. Like air being let out of a baloon just worse. No clue why I feel that way always when driving through Bruxelles though)

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posted March 13, 2016 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, Ceri!

I didn't enjoy being in London or England in general, except for some towns that unfortunately I didn't spend much time in. I have 8837 LONDON squaring my nodal axis and some things happened there that dramatically affect my life and destiny.

I loved being in Ireland, and I'm half Irish. Asteroid 5029 IRELAND @ 9 Aqua in my chart, on my DSC.

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