posted April 11, 2016 07:41 AM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Dunno if it was already stated but your 7th is in your 12th... everyone else can see it but you can't. (I have it too! ) Didn't look at the aspects but I'm sure there's more evidence there.

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I looked a little bit in to this. I will look some more. Thank you.

posted April 11, 2016 07:46 AM            

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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
I don’t know exactly how the mechanism of projection works. We all project and the difference between some people is the awareness. The more aware we are of our projections, the more we have a chance to assemble our disintegrated parts of ourselves (persons) and become more whole. It also helps to stop the blaming cycle as if things that happen to us were independent of what we attract. In some way we attract what we need (in a spiritual sense) to become more whole. The projected object is a reminder of something unconscious or unlived. It can be qualities we like and find positive or qualities we don’t like and find negatives. The object of our projection is the mechanism our higher self “use” to become aware. It is like a reminder of something in the unconscious claiming for space in the entire personality.
You may exhibit many neptunian qualities and you may wonder how you can be projecting those qualities onto others. My guess is that some of them are still hidden from your awareness. For instances, you may be very artistic, but you may also have a strong need for something spiritual that help you to merge with something greater than yourself. The wound of separation from the womb, the wound from being an isolated human, the need for fusion with all-caring, all-embracing, all-loving and unconditional love. While these needs are common to all humans, in my experience, neptunians tend to have a stronger sensitivity to this need and to project more if Neptune aspect venus, venus in pisces, Neptune in 7th or venus in 12th. On the other hand, your cancer moon is very nurturing and needy if used only to nurture others, but also with the square to pluto very hungry emotionally. There is the sense that you have not received enough love from the mother or main caregiver. If a person is hungry emotionally, they cannot give without “sucking” so the giving is sort of conditioned to what is it for me? Or the bring people who “suck” their energy and give nothing in return.

How are you projecting neptunian qualities? My guess “here a hungry emotionally woman, with strong sensitivities to people’ needs and a strong capacity to nurture is not aware of her own wounded child and she is bringing these wounded children to her life through the partners she attract. What for? So she can heal them with her nurturing qualities. Her neptunian need for fussion and dissolution into something greater is projected into for instance an alcoholic” the relation between alcohol and ego dissolution is a neptunian theme and this alcoholic may be the projection of your need for ego dissolution.

What is to be done? Saturn transit is bringing awareness and a touch or reality. Although painful, it is a great teacher. I have made amends with Saturn and when you embrace his teaching, you start liking him. It is a good father and it is asking you to become more independent, to create boundaries to protect yourself, to be realistic in terms of expectations from others. LOL. As a cancer moon you have a strong capacity to self-nurture. Use that capacity to heal yourself in first place. How? As a sun-mars-venus cancer woman myself I have created my own rituals for self-nurturing. I also have moon-pluto square and Neptune in 7th quincunx moon. There are many possibilities and only you can find what suits your needs, but some examples from my repertoire includes meditation, taking time to do things I really love (not obligations from others), create an imaginary mother who unconditionally loves you and talks to you and caress you and embrace you when you need it. She is there and is loving.
All the best
NS

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Thank you so much I have recently started looking in to meditation and Reiki actually.

I really need to not read this stuff at work though. Made me cry again

posted April 11, 2016 10:50 AM            

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Originally posted by Koniucha:
Thank you so much I have recently started looking in to meditation and Reiki actually.

I really need to not read this stuff at work though. Made me cry again

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posted April 11, 2016 12:05 PM            

*hugs* to both of you.

posted April 11, 2016 12:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
I really liked that post of yours, nordicsoul. Very well-put!

*hugs* to both of you.

Hope you're feeling better Koniucha.

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posted April 11, 2016 12:47 PM            

Wow.

I have Neptune 7H and Moon trine Neptune, Moon opp. Pluto.

I'm desperate for someone to show me how to heal that part of myself.

posted April 11, 2016 01:11 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Dunno if it was already stated but your 7th is in your 12th... everyone else can see it but you can't. (I have it too! ) Didn't look at the aspects but I'm sure there's more evidence there.

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Isn't the ruler of my 4th in my 12th? And ruler of my 7th in my 11th?

posted April 11, 2016 01:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
I really liked that post of yours, nordicsoul. Very well-put!

*hugs* to both of you.

Hope you're feeling better Koniucha.

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posted April 11, 2016 02:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Koniucha:
Isn't the ruler of my 4th in my 12th? And ruler of my 7th in my 11th?

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You're right, I don't know what I was thinking! Although Mars does rule your 4th, it's still a masculine planet and therefore a symbol for "guys". Mars being in the 12th waters it down a lot, makes it somewhat Piscean. It doesn't function well there although it's conjunct your ASC (same with mine) and on top of that it's trine Neptune as discussed earlier.

What I've read, beeb told, and found is people with Neptune themes do better when they take their time to get to know someone. Neptunian people (both us and the ones we attract) are idealists and see what they want to see, do what makes them feel deeply or feel good, but that's not always healthy. I've often found strong Neptunian charts also have Plutonian aspects which are there as karma for the individual to become masters at controlling themselves.

So...what I'm trying to say is that Neptune is the "reality balloon" that floats away freely off into wherever, but Pluto can help you be the grip on it. Especially you because (hope I'm not confusing it again!) I think you have Mercury in Scorpio..so when you master your perceptive abilities you'll most likely be attracted to better Mars /Neptune people (compassionate people instead of those who escape to avoid. Artists instead of liars etc.)

posted April 11, 2016 02:51 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
You're right, I don't know what I was thinking! Although Mars does rule your 4th, it's still a masculine planet and therefore a symbol for "guys". Mars being in the 12th waters it down a lot, makes it somewhat Piscean. It doesn't function well there although it's conjunct your ASC (same with mine) and on top of that it's trine Neptune as discussed earlier.

What I've read, beeb told, and found is people with Neptune themes do better when they take their time to get to know someone. Neptunian people (both us and the ones we attract) are idealists and see what they want to see, do what makes them feel deeply or feel good, but that's not always healthy. I've often found strong Neptunian charts also have Plutonian aspects which are there as karma for the individual to become masters at controlling themselves.

So...what I'm trying to say is that Neptune is the "reality balloon" that floats away freely off into wherever, but Pluto can help you be the grip on it. Especially you because (hope I'm not confusing it again!) I think you have Mercury in Scorpio..so when you master your perceptive abilities you'll most likely be attracted to better Mars /Neptune people (compassionate people instead of those who escape to avoid. Artists instead of liars etc.)

Lots of things point to this...Pluto in Libra (master balance and relationships) t.Pluto in Capricorn (master being focused and realistic and master where your time goes...also great for Mars in our position since the water influence scatters it's energy. Learn to conserve and when to execute.)

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I did read ruler of 7th in the 12th, and I feel that it rang true for me also. Perhaps its similar to the Venus - Neptune?

posted April 11, 2016 05:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Sikanda:
I think what makes it for you is your Neptune ascendant, which brings illusion and unclear (more emotional than logical) perception of yourself. This can attract people with these characteristics.
Besides you have several inconjunctions, most notably in your Mercury towards Venus, Jupiter and Saturn, which might result in a misunderstading or miscommunication with the other person. And the Sun inconjunct Ascendant also means you don't come across at the beginning as you really are.

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posted April 13, 2016 05:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
Taurus and Pisces and Cancer

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posted April 14, 2016 01:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Koniucha:
I did read ruler of 7th in the 12th, and I feel that it rang true for me also. Perhaps its similar to the Venus - Neptune?

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posted April 14, 2016 05:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Koniucha:
I did read ruler of 7th in the 12th, and I feel that it rang true for me also. Perhaps its similar to the Venus - Neptune?

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posted April 14, 2016 05:43 AM            

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Originally posted by Koniucha:
I'm not sure how to fix some of those. How can I help how others see me?

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I do not think there is something to fix. some people as like open books and you are not one of them. that adds a misterious and charming aura.. of course.. the flip side is people may get the wrong impression, but this is up to the one who wants to see something that isnot there. the only thing you could do is to avoid reinforcing a believ about you that you know is not accurate. sometimes we unconsciously mislead people to believe we are that great to avoid to disappoint them. neptune tends to merge with what other people project on them and make them believe that you are what they want to see.

posted April 14, 2016 09:02 AM            

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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
I do not think there is something to fix. some people as like open books and you are not one of them. that adds a misterious and charming aura.. of course.. the flip side is people may get the wrong impression, but this is up to the one who wants to see something that isnot there. the only thing you could do is to avoid reinforcing a believ about you that you know is not accurate. sometimes we unconsciously mislead people to believe we are that great to avoid to disappoint them. neptune tends to merge with what other people project on them and make them believe that you are what they want to see.

probably warning those putting you in a pedestal can help. but again, this is very unconscious and even if you warn them not to idealize you, it is difficult for you not to follow into the trap of believing you are what they think you are... does it make sense?

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It does. I do love how I am and I love being Neptunian too. Astrology has made me very self aware and I am thankful for that. The last 'relationship' that I had happened so that I can wake up to the reality of what is really going on. I thank Saturn for that

posted April 14, 2016 04:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Koniucha:

I don't get this response

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posted April 15, 2016 08:49 PM            

First resolve the matter of AM/PM. If I recall it was based on your mother's memory?

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Originally posted by Koniucha:
Yes, it can be hard. I am very emotional and I know I have an innocent, sensitive look to me.

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This favors Cancer rising.

A lot of folks here have given you encouraging words, and I hope you feel better and regain your confidence, but as it comes to the astrology, it really is best to know what chart you should work with.

posted April 15, 2016 09:08 PM            

No matter what chart you use, this Neptune thing seems unavoidable, huh?

Reinforcing this is Neptune 11° Pisces in transit square natal Mars, which can be a time in which full vigor to assert yourself is missing. This is a time in which it is okay to be cautious, to hang back from more vigorous or sustained efforts and to be more aware of motivations for why -- your motivations for taking certain actions or for the desire to avoid direct assertion. When your confidence is low like this, don't expect your usual confidence or to keep up with others.

These will pass, but hopefully you'll be more in tune with you afterwards, and more aware of what you need -- and more assertive about it.

posted April 16, 2016 07:55 AM            

You are amazing. You should think of being a professional. This may be your calling. Ever check your Astrowizard asteroid.

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