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yungang_grotto
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posted June 22, 2016 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Lol... yeah. We're all shallow deep down

I was joking. Sorry you felt misunderstood but twas a total joke.

Edit: maybe i did misunderstand! **being as authentic as possible** **the strain of authenticity do you feel it?!** still kinda joking but..

yeah probably your b perception of my comment was accurate. I misunderstood and then made a very silly joke based on my processing. Which went something like: maybe we ARE all shallow deep down! Which in a way i kinda believe... lol so... urg anyway

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SDragon
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posted June 22, 2016 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SDragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SaturnFan:
What this process leads to, is highly individual, because ultimately it connects you to the very essence of your soul, and so nobody can predict what will be discovered by any one individual. Through this "death" you encounter the immortal energies within you, the core inside you which can survive any fire, and I think this is the essence of the Scorpio and Plutonic energy.

I don't think it's about being able to say "I'm more happy", "I'm more powerful", "I'm more enlightened", but instead I think it's about being able to say "I'm more *me* ." - which actually can hold more intensity than all of the previous statements combined, if it's underpinned by pure authenticity.


Thumbs up SaturnFan.

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yungang_grotto
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posted June 22, 2016 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
semantics... when we are nitpicking about what "me" is, or what the journey looks like for the inside being or witness or authentic self.. It's different for everyone... enlightenment means bringing to light... and yes i agree that being really genuine with whatever actually IS is the most powerful thing... the most... beautiful thing.. to be that 'me,' that Self of whom ramana maharshi speaks... not trying to hide it... not trying to explain it or cover up your true motives.. trusting yourself... and that kind of brings you right back to square one... like the baby phoenix who has just burned up all its past actions in the fire of.. enlightenment.. if you'll excuse the word... and yet maintained it's unique individuality, it's core essence, it's soul... but been reborn... and is now a most authentic little innocent vulnerable immortal powerhouse phoenix baby again... so the cycle continues...

i find when i finally admit all my **** to myself I'm free.

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yungang_grotto
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posted June 22, 2016 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So the two shadows of Scorpio (the Mega ones)

Are cast by the two lights of Scorpio right?

The shadows are.. power games... and comparing yourself to others. They're kind of similar.

Thing is both are totally unnecessary for the realized authentic Scorpio... because you don't need to prove innate power. And you don't need to compare yourself if you're invested in total union merging etc. If we are all one you can celebrate everybody and be the MOST happy, the most enlightened--because you're paradoxically not comparing yourself anymore. But you're not the most--you're not happy with being the most--you're like the bodhissatva at the threshold of nirvana who can't be truly happy until everybody is

so Scorpio keeps eating poison and transmuting it.. it's alchemy and healing... tonglen is a Scorpio thing to do. Breathe in hate... breathe out love

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yungang_grotto
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posted June 22, 2016 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's no fun having people think that you think you're better than them. It's no fun thinking so either because you're constantly defending your position! Best by far to be real, and humble... humility is keyyy

Challenging! We go easy on each other though right?

But we're all psychic here--and we're all amazing. So it's coool...

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yungang_grotto
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posted June 23, 2016 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorpio as pure essence (which none of us are by the way) isn't exactly fulfilled by finding out things about its own ego either.. the "I am me" thing...it's a beautiful thing.... but that's the kicker. As soon as there's an ego clinging to the 'me' I'm trying to destroy it! Or... transmute it... sometimes acknowledge embrace and love it.. it is after all part of the authentic Self... and like... Of course i can be a person (ugh)... but i am happier when i can identify with something else... The more it's about 'me' (separate me--ego me) the more miserable I actually am... it wants release from the ego, Scorpio. It wants union. It wants merging. Scorpio is loyal and deeply into long term relationships because they truly know how to merge themselves... truly to do that.

This sign is about the death of the individual self. So says Isabel Hickey. And she's right I think. After Libra it is the first of the transpersonal signs... it's a crucial thing... this death... so we can be reborn and travel outside our limited little self-box into sagittarius land.

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posted June 23, 2016 02:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only time I've seen it was my father after his first brush with death. After that he was still sort of fked up imo. Years later, when he knew he really was dying, he really tried and before his death he managed to do some decent things. In the end he didn't turn into a phoenix by any mean, but in my eyes, sort of decent. I appreciate the effort.

I could have been a little more cynical, but I think perhaps because it was my father, I was willing to believe that he actually wanted to feel and to "fix" the damages that he caused.

I can't tell how they do it differently, compared to non-scorpios.

There are other scorps I know. Some seem to struggle with themselves, some don't. But that happens to a lot of people. So I usually let them be and don't pry.

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Faith
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posted June 23, 2016 07:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by deepseablues:
[b]@Faith,

Your daughter is very very lucky to have a compassionate and understanding mother like yourself. I am sure it will help her in understanding herself as well as to become a Phoenix later in life. [/B]


Thanks...and sorry for our troubles here.

Next time please make a new post instead of editing things in much later? I missed it, and it looks like I ignored your kindness the first time around.

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Faith
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posted June 23, 2016 07:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Scorpio as pure essence (which none of us are by the way) isn't exactly fulfilled by finding out things about its own ego either.. the "I am me" thing...it's a beautiful thing.... but that's the kicker. As soon as there's an ego clinging to the 'me' I'm trying to destroy it! Or... transmute it... sometimes acknowledge embrace and love it.. it is after all part of the authentic Self... and like... Of course i can be a person (ugh)... but i am happier when i can identify with something else... The more it's about 'me' (separate me--ego me) the more miserable I actually am... it wants release from the ego, Scorpio. It wants union. It wants merging. Scorpio is loyal and deeply into long term relationships because they truly know how to merge themselves... truly to do that.

This sign is about the death of the individual self. So says Isabel Hickey. And she's right I think. After Libra it is the first of the transpersonal signs... it's a crucial thing... this death... so we can be reborn and travel outside our limited little self-box into sagittarius land.


I was hoping someone would say that...we are more than our egos.

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Elysia
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posted June 23, 2016 01:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Am conflicted about posting in this thread. Not sure I can say what I have to well enough. Or whether it's even worth saying..

Just stopping by to say, some really good points by everyone who posted here.

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Yanmorg
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posted June 23, 2016 10:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I appreciate this post.

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Yanmorg
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posted June 23, 2016 10:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by theunknown:
^^^ that's not what I mean. The deep scorps who go through transformation aren't what pl imagine. It's really strange. I think pl imagine scorps to be grand like movies. But they want very simple things. And that's why they're so soulful

Wow. You really pay attention. You cracked the code.

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