posted July 20, 2016 02:49 AM              

Until then, here are some of the astrological energy equations that I've noticed create the hybrid version of a sign. Some of these are recaps from my initial post and some are new findings (thought it would be good to just compile them all together). You can also replace signs with their houses / planets and vice versa.

A person with plenty of Taurus and air energy may become a Hybrid Libra. Taurus is classy and luxurious and air is social and talkative. This equals a Libra.

A person who is both water heavy and Aries heavy may become a Hybrid Scorpio. Scorpio is a watery Martian (see Angelina post on page 1).

A person who has prominent Sag and strong water may become a Hybrid Pisces. Sag is ruled by Jupiter and when Jupiter is watery is gives you Pisces.

If you have tons of Pisces and also Aries or Mars energy rampant you could easily become a Hybrid Capricorn. Pisces can be melancholy / depressive and Aries is Cardinal. This is what a Cap basically is (a cardinal Goat like Aries at the top and a pensive fish at the bottom).

Lots of mercury in the chart mixed with tons of earth can make a hybrid version of Virgo. Virgo is an earth sign ruled by Mercury.

A Gemini with strong Saturn may make a Hybrid Aquarius.

I know I can think of more but like I said it's late. But basically the idea is not that a dominant energy or sign makes you into a Hybrid of that sign. No. Two or more energies (that are not sign X) must come together to give you characteristics of sign X. This sign may not be prominent in your chart if even in your chart at all, but somehow you act like the sign. The culprit could be that you've become like that sign by way of hybrid energies. You would the the hybrid version of that sign.

Ok shutting my computer off now lol

posted July 20, 2016 03:14 AM              

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Your eyes are watery headintheclouds .

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posted July 20, 2016 01:35 PM              

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Originally posted by @lycat74:
@LittleBlackCat: Another interesting forum topic/discussion.

I definitely agree with your astrological theory. I'm Plutonian and an Aries and my chart is water/fire heavy. Even so, I got confused as a Pisces once. It was shocking cuss this person that confused me for a Pisces was a Pisces(LOLZ). I only have my Venus in Pisces but I feel it effects on my appearance and how people see me. Btw I only have like 4 minor aspects with Neptune and most of them are between two generational planets (so they don't even count for me).

I do have Venus in Pisces in the 7th House. So I probably project my Venus Pisces energy to others through my interactions with them.

Random but I also do have Jupiter in the 1st House. So according to your hybrid theory; I am borrowing energy from Jupiter that rules both Sag and Pisces.

Anyway I don't really think I have a particular hybrid sign. I feel that I am a hybrid Pluto/Venus/Saturn/Sun energies (according to my Pullen chart too).

Anyway time to get a little deep and philosophical. Sometimes I think Pisces is just as strong if not stronger energy than Scorpio. I know this sounds crazy. But it has that classic good/evil battle going on between it. Pisces can definitely undermine Scorpio energy. I see this dynamic in my own chart and I am Plutonian.

Just for reference on my Plutonian-ness
Sun & Mercury in the 8th House
Scorpio moon
Pluto in Scorpio the 4th House (not to mention it's CONJUNCT my IC in SCORPIO)
Mars square Pluto
Mercury semi-square Pluto
Pluto square Ascendant
Pluto square Saturn, Midheaven
blah blah blah

Even with all this Pluto energy
People don't see me as scary (they don't bother me). I don't have crazy experiences. BTW universe I don't want any so don't jinx me. I think it is due to my Pisces energy. It holds back my Pluto energy, deludes it, and softens it. It's like filter.

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posted July 20, 2016 02:05 PM            

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Originally posted by LittleBlackCat:
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Lots of mercury in the chart mixed with tons of earth can make a hybrid version of Virgo. Virgo is an earth sign ruled by Mercury.

A Gemini with strong Saturn may make a Hybrid Aquarius.

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I will admit I feel some of these influences. I can see eye to eye with Virgos from time to time.

There just an earth sign that wants to strive for the very best possible, doesn't always happen thought and is insecure as a result.

My Saturn does have aspects to my sun.

But the Aquarius Hybrid is most likely because my Ascendant is technical on a Capricorn/Aqaurious cusp.

But thats a subjective thing as some people do not believe in cusps.

posted July 20, 2016 02:24 PM            

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Originally posted by headintheclouds91:
but i can look so different in pics just by changing something to my appearance,.Like in this pic i have short black and white hair with dark lipstick on and i find myself looking very different from the one above-

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Love that picture!!!

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Originally posted by headintheclouds91:
Do i look like two different rising signs? If so, what sign would you have thought i was in the 1st pic and what sign do i look like in the 2nd pic?

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posted July 20, 2016 03:13 PM              

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Originally posted by StubbornVirgo:
I have no idea what fusion I would be. I have five personal planets rules by Mercury, but I'm primarily Moon dominant and I have Moon/Mars in 4th house and a Virgo stellium in 7th. And I'm an Aqua ASC with my chart ruler in Cap. Some odd mix of Virgo + Cancer + Libra + Cap+ Aquarius, I suppose. Maybe I'll post my pic later and let people guess.

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This is interesting because it seems you are a Virgo with non-Virgo energies that fuse together only to create Virgo again lol. For example, even your Aquarius Asc with it's ruler in Cap create an intellectual earth energy (Aquarius is intellect Cap is earth). So there is an earthy intellect which is what Virgo is) . This is actually adorable. When you add in the emotion of Cancer you may actually seem a bit like a Capricorn. I say this b/c Caps are intelligent and earthy like Virgo but more moody (hence the fish tale representing a water-like energy). But mostly you are quite Virgo. Your name really fits

posted July 20, 2016 03:32 PM              

Exaclty, a splash chart most likely won't create a concrete fusion version of any particular sign. It works best if energy is concentrated in only a few signs (or their respective houses, planets, etc.). Angelina had TONS of Aries and lots of water. I have tons of Mercury and LOTS of earth. Manifesting as a fusion version of a sign is definitely not common (for reasons stated in the second paragraph to StubbornVirgo above this post), however it certainly exists.

posted July 20, 2016 03:50 PM            

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Originally posted by LittleBlackCat:
[b]@Faith:

Exaclty, a splash chart most likely won't create a concrete fusion version of any particular sign. It works best if energy is concentrated in only a few signs (or their respective houses, planets, etc.). Angelina had TONS of Aries and lots of water. I have tons of Mercury and LOTS of earth. Manifesting as a fusion version of a sign is definitely not common (for reasons stated in the second paragraph to StubbornVirgo above this post), however it certainly exists.

@hypatia238:
My south node is in Cancer and I know nothing of Draco placements but if any of it removes my Scorpio or Gemini placements I'll have to rebuke it lol. Off to go research now [/B]

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posted July 20, 2016 04:09 PM              

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Originally posted by DualGem:
I will admit I feel some of these influences. I can see eye to eye with Virgos from time to time.

There just an earth sign that wants to strive for the very best possible, doesn't always happen thought and is insecure as a result.

My Saturn does have aspects to my sun.

But the Aquarius Hybrid is most likely because my Ascendant is technical on a Capricorn/Aqaurious cusp.

But thats a subjective thing as some people do not believe in cusps.

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Gemini Sun,
Capricorn Rising
Aries Moon
Gemini Mercury
Venus Taurus
Mars Cancer

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Very true and insightful points about Virgo. I'm a Sag (and definitely have many Sag traits), but I have more text-book Virgo habits than even some Virgos that I know (but they are all more mentally organized than me lol). I am a neat-freak and obsessed with order. I have a paranoia of what I call "outside germs". Basically if I sat on a chair while wearing clothes that I wore outdoors I absolutely can't sit on that same chair while wearing my nightgown. I literally wipe the chair with alcohol. Even my hair stays in a bun 80 of the time b/c it is neat and clean looking to me. I feel like screaming when people sit on my bed with "outside clothes" when they come to my room. Now that I've realized that I'm a Hybrid version of a Virgo (via my earth / mercury fusion) it all makes sense lol

Oh I totally believe in cusps. Energy is not still....it moves and radiates. Imagine putting a red light-bulb close to a blue light-bulb. Even if they do not touch, the light radiating from each will create a purple effect. The same thing will happen if the energy of Aquarius is close to the energy of Cap (as is the case with your Asc.). The energies intermingle and it's awesome

posted July 20, 2016 04:29 PM              

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
It's not like that your tropic placements still count, draco is another layer of the onion we are you can say.

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Ohhhhh.....ok I see. I just skimmed an article on it and basically it can sort of show intent or path. It adds to what you already have, got it

What do you gather from this?

posted July 20, 2016 05:44 PM              

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Originally posted by Faith:
Love that picture!!!

To me, in the first pic, Cancer stands out more, and in the second pic, Uranus stands out more. Maybe transits highlighted your ASC differently?

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posted July 20, 2016 05:46 PM            

Scorpio dominant
6H (Virgo) dominant
Mercury dominant

posted July 20, 2016 09:09 PM              

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Originally posted by meyray:
What hybrid makes a

Scorpio dominant
6H (Virgo) dominant
Mercury dominant

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Sorry but I don't understand the question.

If you mean what fusion sign is created by mixing all three together then I would say the fusion of Scorpio and Virgo / Mercury energies would make a Capricorn-like person (earthy and intelligent, yet pensive / dark). It's interesting b/c so far I've seen several ways to make Capricorn lol

If what you meant was what fusion of energies could create each thing you listed individually then....

1.)Lots of Martian energy mixed with water energy creates a Hybrid Scorpio.

2.)Lots of Mercurial energy mixed with earth creates a Hybrid Virgo.

posted July 21, 2016 01:51 AM            

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Originally posted by LittleBlackCat:
Aquarius is present for sure but wow your eyes are a dead giveaway that Scorpio is strong. Not only that but also the way the picture was taken / how you chose to position your body. My brother has Scorpio Asc. so I am very familiar with how the energy manifests in males. Whether you know it or not you probably make people nervous. Not b/c you do anything in particular, there is just a natural tendency to have gestures, stances, and stares that seem like a wolf in sheep's clothing. A person who is laid-back and easy-going enough, but somehow still seems intimidating / dangerous nonetheless. Another interesting thing about your photo is how the energies play out on your features (not just your pose, etc.). Your looks are Plutonian in structure (stoic jaw, intense eyes, resolute lips, etc) yet airy in color (not the usual dark brows, hair, eyes, etc). Very interesting. Nic pic by the way

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Thanks! From you've described, it seems as if my appearance can be described as a "Vibrant Plutonian" lol. I often wear darker colors, if not then blues and reds. Rarely do I wear neon colors and/or colors that are super bright. It's just my style.

I think being a "Plutonian Aquarius", as you described me (which I shall use to identify myself from now on lol), is a strange combo. It is strange, yet allows for the unfolding of many new possibilities.

Thanks for the interpretation! Also, would you think that being strong in both Gemini and Aries could make for an Aquarius type? I was thinking of it being possible for Gemini's wit and Aries' speed could make up for speedy Aquarius, ruled by Uranus. I know that Aqua is also ruled by Saturn, but this is what I came up with if I was to identify Aquarius by Uranus alone

posted July 21, 2016 06:45 AM              

this reminds me of that little theory or method I read in astrology books, to arrive at your "essence-sign" (or at least some kind of sign that might show in your personality, even if technically you have NO planets in that sign).

The method is pretty much counting which elements are strongest, then counting which modality is prominent.

And then you look up which sign is in that element AND modality, and there you go.
I guess I am boring, as my main modality is mutable and my main element is fire, so I end up with Sag again. (though if I were to include dispositors and chartruler, I would also end up with a strong Pisces; and I think that is pretty apt.)

posted July 22, 2016 09:46 AM              

Hmmmm, Gemini + Aries giving an Aquarian vibe actually makes a lot of sense. I'm going to go study the charts of people heavy with these and see their behavior.

@Ceridwen:

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The method is pretty much counting which elements are strongest, then counting which modality is prominent. And then you look up which sign is in that element AND modality, and there you go.

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posted July 22, 2016 10:06 AM              

But in this instance I meant "boring" because my chart is so clear. It`s Sag. Period. (with a little Aqua, Saturn, Neptune and Pluto thrown into the mix).

But my sign-signature (yes that was the name for it, I remember now), is also Sagittarius.

posted July 22, 2016 02:08 PM            

I'm not sure if it can be used this way, but it is interesting method

posted July 22, 2016 08:54 PM            

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Originally posted by LittleBlackCat:
Ok so what I am seeing is that the fire you have has a tendency to come out via a Jupiter-like expression (Jupiter in the 1st). The first house is how you are seen (as we all know). Your Venus being in Pisces makes it's relationship to your Jupiter more profound (since Pisces is co-ruled by Jupiter). So you could very well come across as pisces-like and even Sagittarius. For example, normally Aries seem to state opinions with finality even without any examples, reasons, etc. You on the other hand came to my other thread, stated your thoughts , and supported your thoughts with very philosophical / analytical points. Like I told you I was quite impressed with your thorough presentation. Your Aries fire is touched by spiritual Pisces and philosophical Jupiter (who is also linked to Pisces). Pluto adds even more depth

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posted July 23, 2016 03:17 PM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Haha,
thanks.
From my youth on that was being one of my greatest fear, that i might bore people or being intrusive, hurting any boundaries etc, being interrupting more important things.
It`s odd really (and as a consequence I guess I have kept more of a distance to many people than I should have).

But in this instance I meant "boring" because my chart is so clear. It`s Sag. Period. (with a little Aqua, Saturn, Neptune and Pluto thrown into the mix).

But my sign-signature (yes that was the name for it, I remember now), is also Sagittarius.

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Oh ok I get what you mean

Thank you for sharing this, it has helped me A TON with figuring out a good method. I basically did what you said but incorporated a way to included houses, aspects, etc into it using Astrodienst. I'm making a thread on it now as I write this (I'm a multi-tab type lol). When I did it the original sign-signature I got Cap (which fits but was a little off). Doing it the second way did not give me an earth sign at all but my second most dominant element/mode combination did give me Virgo (which is what a lot of ppl mistook me for when I posted my pics a while back lol). I'll tell you what sign I got as my top energy in the other thread

posted July 23, 2016 03:20 PM              

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Originally posted by @lycat74:
@LittleBlackCat: This is what I am kinda saying about Pisces energy sometimes being stronger than Scorpio/Plutonian energy. Random but I forgot to mention I got Venus opposite Jupiter too (so kinda like a seesaw of Pisces-ness).

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posted July 25, 2016 01:37 AM            

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Originally posted by LittleBlackCat:
Now you have my mind stirring up something lol....hmmmm. My brother is a Pisces Sun /Venus with Scorpio Asc. I'm going to use him as a guinea pig to analyze this Pisces/Scorpio power dynamic

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posted July 27, 2016 04:17 PM              

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Originally posted by @lycat74:
@LittleBlackCat: To clarify there is a blend/mix between the two. But a lot of people consider Pisces energy as sensitive, passive/inactive energy but it's not. It can be as manipulative, deliberate, and focused as Scorpio.

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