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Topic: ASTROLOGICAL FUSIONS AND MIXES. ARE YOU A HYBRID???
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LittleBlackCat unregistered
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posted July 18, 2016 06:43 PM
So a couple month ago I posted some pictures of myself here and asked others to guess my sign. An overwhelming amount believed I was a Virgo. Some even guessed Pisces. I have ZERO planets in Pisces and only a Virgo Mid.H (and most people do not look like their Mid.H).I realized that this phenomena was actually what I've come to think of as astrological fusions or "hybrids". With my Moon and Mars both being in Gemini (in addition to my Gemini Mars co-ruling my entire chart), I am FULL of Mercurial energy. Then I have 5 placements in Capricorn, so I am quite earthy to say the least. This allowed an amazing thing to take place in which my Mercurial energy fused with all of my Earth energy to create, wait for it......VIRGO! Virgo is an earth sign ruled by Mercury. So though Virgo is not my sign nor a main player in my chart, I am a Virgo type by way of hybrid energies. Next I wondered why Pisces was seen when I only have one water sign in my entire chart (and it is NOT Pisces). Well let's take a look. I have a Scorpio Ascendant. Scorpio is not like Pisces but they are both water, which is all that's needed for what we'll examine next. Ok so I have water energy but the rest of my chart is quite firey with 3 planets in fire signs. However, two of those three are in the fire sign of Sag (Sun / Venus). Who is Sag ruled by? Jupiter. So take all of my Jupiter energy and fuse it with water energy and what do you get?....PISCES! Pisces is a water energy co-ruled by Jupiter. Add this to a 12th house Pluto (my chart ruler) and you get a Pisces-like vibe by way of hybrid energies. I have even seen this in subjects outside of myself. Angelina Jolie is extremely Arian with Moon, Mars, Jupiter, and Mid.H in Aries. However, she also has very strong water energy with Venus, Saturn, and Asc (super important) in Cancer. Angelina is a Gemini Sun but her reputation as the extremely sexy, seductive, and mysterious daredevil brings a very different sign to mind doesn't it? Well, who is a watery Martian? SCORPIO! So despite having NOTHING in Scorpio, Angelina is a Scorpio type by way of hybrid energies. Yet some mixes don't make an entirely other sign. For example there is no fire sign that is ruled by mercury, so it probably won't create anything. However, Saturn influence mixed with tons of Gemini could possibly make an Aquarius type. I find this extremely fascinating and very much like mixing paint colors (except with energies). Sooooo, my hybrid sign is basically a Virgo Sun with Pisces Ascendant by way of energy fusion LOL. Have you found that you or someone you know acts like a particular sign (that may not even be in their chart) by way of energy fusions? What energies have you noticed can make particular signs when mixed? And finally, what is your hybrid sign (if you are a hybrid at all)? ------- UPDATE: Here is a response I wrote to someone that I feel explains the science behind this better (copied from my post on page 2). "I noticed it is most concrete with signs that are associated with multiple planets (Scorpio, Sag, Pisces, and Aquarius)OR share a planet with another sign (Libra and Taurus share Venus, Gemini and Virgo share Mercury, Sag and Pisces share Jupiter, Aquarius and Cap share Saturn an Aries shares Mars with Scorpio). In this way, elements, modes, and planets can intermix (you can have a fire Martian or a water Martian....you can have Mercurial air or Mercurial earth). These create sure-fire hybrids. This won't work too well with the Moon for example, as it only rules one sign and it is only associated with one element (water). It has influence but does not intermix seamlessly." P.S., see the first post on page 2 to see a list of notable hybrid equations IP: Logged |
frankie2912 Knowflake Posts: 1662 From: Here and There Registered: Apr 2011
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posted July 18, 2016 06:55 PM
Very interesting.People always guess that I'm a Pisces or Pisces ASC when I post a pic. I am a Cap with Scorpio ASC but my Mars and Jupiter in Pisces are my most heavily aspected planets so the Pisces thing makes sense. IP: Logged |
LittleBlackCat unregistered
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posted July 18, 2016 07:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by frankie2912: Very interesting.People always guess that I'm a Pisces or Pisces ASC when I post a pic. I am a Cap with Scorpio ASC but my Mars and Jupiter in Pisces are my most heavily aspected planets so the Pisces thing makes sense.
Yes yours makes sense b/c your Pisces planets are heavily aspected. This made Pisces energy that already existed prominent (Pisces was not created without first previously existing). That's different from the energy fusion though. Angelina had no previously existing Scorpio energy. Scorpio was literally created out of a fusing / combination of two totally separate energies from that had nothing to do with Scorpio. It's like alchemy LOL IP: Logged |
frankie2912 Knowflake Posts: 1662 From: Here and There Registered: Apr 2011
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posted July 18, 2016 08:26 PM
Yeah I get what you mean. It's a great observation and pretty fascinating conclusion! I think you're on to something.IP: Logged |
Electro DGX Moderator Posts: 1946 From: Plutanus Registered: Jul 2015
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posted July 18, 2016 08:34 PM
Some people thought I was a Scorpio. I have a Scorp Ascendant and an 8th house Moon opposite Pluto to boot, so it's no wonder lol. I can post a pic if you want to compare. Honestly though I am horrible at guessing signs based off of pictures, which is why I never participate in such threads. ------------------ Aquarius Sun, Merc, Venus, Uranus, Neptune Scorpio Mars conj. Asc in First 8th House Moon opposite Pluto, Trine Uranus Have you caught onto the predicament I'm in yet? IP: Logged |
LittleBlackCat unregistered
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posted July 19, 2016 12:40 AM
quote: Originally posted by frankie2912: Yeah I get what y" mean. It's a great observation and pretty fascinating conclusion! I think you're on to something.
I certainly hope I'm on to something I mean it would be pretty awesome because then we would have regular Virgos and Fusion Virgos. Original Aquarians and Fusion Aquarians. Yep, I can see it now, someone in Angelina's position could say "Yea I'm a Solar Gemini and a Fusion Scorpio". LOL ok maybe I'm getting carried away but I really believe there is more to how energies work than meets the eye IP: Logged |
LittleBlackCat unregistered
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posted July 19, 2016 01:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by Electro DGX: Some people thought I was a Scorpio. I have a Scorp Ascendant and an 8th house Moon opposite Pluto to boot, so it's no wonder lol. I can post a pic if you want to compare. Honestly though I am horrible at guessing signs based off of pictures, which is why I never participate in such threads.
You are a Plutonian Aquarius and that seems like one heck of a combo. Going deep into the unknown with an intense innovative quality (colored by unique thinking processes). I felt all of his clearly from your music as well. I think that the fusion of your energies are prone to making you sort of like an ultimate version of each opposed to manifestng another sign altogether (like Jolie).
I say this b/c the deep feeling of Scorpio / Pluto would only serve to intensify the uniqueness of Aquarius (making you extra "different" or unusual which are Aquarian qualities). The strong intellect of Aquarius would only serve to make Scorpio's desire to experiment with extremes and research more amplified. So maybe people feel at times you are either super Aquarian or super Scorpion? I could be totally off lol Oh and yes posting a pic would help me a lot with this research (not to make anyone feel like a guinea pig lol but my Gemini Moon just needs to test this). IP: Logged |
Electro DGX Moderator Posts: 1946 From: Plutanus Registered: Jul 2015
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posted July 19, 2016 02:03 AM
Interesting analysis. I've been trying to analyze my chart to see how the Plutonian bits manage to play out with my strong Aquarian traits, especially since my chart is so Uranian. Strangely enough though, I feel more Scorpion than Aquarian even if I may express more Aquarian traits noticeable by others than Scorpio traits. Here's a pic of me if you want to make an analysis: *image removed* (the Scorpio is really pronounced lol) ------------------ Aquarius Sun, Merc, Venus, Uranus, Neptune Scorpio Mars conj. Asc in First 8th House Moon opposite Pluto, Trine Uranus Have you caught onto the predicament I'm in yet? IP: Logged |
@lycat74 Knowflake Posts: 266 From: Registered: Jul 2016
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posted July 19, 2016 03:14 AM
@LittleBlackCat: Another interesting forum topic/discussion.I definitely agree with your astrological theory. I'm Plutonian and an Aries and my chart is water/fire heavy. Even so, I got confused as a Pisces once. It was shocking cuss this person that confused me for a Pisces was a Pisces(LOLZ). I only have my Venus in Pisces but I feel it effects on my appearance and how people see me. Btw I only have like 4 minor aspects with Neptune and most of them are between two generational planets (so they don't even count for me). I do have Venus in Pisces in the 7th House. So I probably project my Venus Pisces energy to others through my interactions with them. Random but I also do have Jupiter in the 1st House. So according to your hybrid theory; I am borrowing energy from Jupiter that rules both Sag and Pisces. Anyway I don't really think I have a particular hybrid sign. I feel that I am a hybrid Pluto/Venus/Saturn/Sun energies (according to my Pullen chart too). Anyway time to get a little deep and philosophical. Sometimes I think Pisces is just as strong if not stronger energy than Scorpio. I know this sounds crazy. But it has that classic good/evil battle going on between it. Pisces can definitely undermine Scorpio energy. I see this dynamic in my own chart and I am Plutonian. Just for reference on my Plutonian-ness Sun & Mercury in the 8th House Scorpio moon Pluto in Scorpio the 4th House (not to mention it's CONJUNCT my IC in SCORPIO) Mars square Pluto Mercury semi-square Pluto Pluto square Ascendant Pluto square Saturn, Midheaven blah blah blah Even with all this Pluto energy People don't see me as scary (they don't bother me). I don't have crazy experiences. BTW universe I don't want any so don't jinx me. I think it is due to my Pisces energy. It holds back my Pluto energy, deludes it, and softens it. It's like filter. IP: Logged |
StubbornVirgo Knowflake Posts: 2252 From: Welcome to Mercury Registered: Jul 2015
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posted July 19, 2016 09:07 AM
I have no idea what fusion I would be. I have five personal planets rules by Mercury, but I'm primarily Moon dominant and I have Moon/Mars in 4th house and a Virgo stellium in 7th. And I'm an Aqua ASC with my chart ruler in Cap. Some odd mix of Virgo + Cancer + Libra + Cap+ Aquarius, I suppose. Maybe I'll post my pic later and let people guess.IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 21731 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 19, 2016 09:40 AM
I have a splash chart. I feel that if you converted the zodiac wheel into a dartboard and threw a dart...whatever sign you hit, I could be that sign. Except Cancer. I can't do that one. IP: Logged |
headintheclouds91 unregistered
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posted July 19, 2016 09:44 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: Except Cancer. I can't do that one. [/B]
Why? Don`t you have the boobs for it? Hahaha, jk but seriously why can`t you? IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7890 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted July 19, 2016 09:58 AM
What is in your southnode?IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7890 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted July 19, 2016 10:08 AM
Btw Angelina Jolie has draco sun in Libra and draco Venus in Scorpio.IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 21731 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 19, 2016 10:10 AM
quote: Originally posted by headintheclouds91: Why? Don`t you have the boobs for it? Hahaha, jk but seriously why can`t you?
!!! I don't know, Cancers often surprise me. They have emotional abilities I don't have. I have no planets in Cancer and all I've got in my 4H is my NN (so I'm not there yet) and Uranus (which is nothing like Cancer!) Cancer is in my 12H too. Maybe I just need implants, and then I'll understand. IP: Logged |
Electro DGX Moderator Posts: 1946 From: Plutanus Registered: Jul 2015
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posted July 19, 2016 10:12 AM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: Btw Angelina Jolie has draco sun in Libra and draco Venus in Scorpio.
Bringing up Draconic influences may be a good thing to pin-point as well, but I only have draconic Jupiter in Scorpio. It makes a square to my natal sun ------------------ Aquarius Sun, Merc, Venus, Uranus, Neptune Scorpio Mars conj. Asc in First 8th House Moon opposite Pluto, Trine Uranus Have you caught onto the predicament I'm in yet? IP: Logged |
headintheclouds91 unregistered
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posted July 19, 2016 10:21 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: Maybe I just need implants, and then I'll understand.
😂 IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7890 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted July 19, 2016 10:54 AM
quote: Originally posted by Electro DGX: Bringing up Draconic influences may be a good thing to pin-point as well, but I only have draconic Jupiter in Scorpio. It makes a square to my natal sun
Well sweetie Pluto and mars rule your chart and you have Mars in Scorpio so of course you identify with pluto, no need to look further lol. But Angelina has amazing symmetry on her face and sex appeal which can totally be explained by her draco sun in Libra in combo with her draco Venus in Scorpio at 27 degrees. IP: Logged |
StubbornVirgo Knowflake Posts: 2252 From: Welcome to Mercury Registered: Jul 2015
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posted July 19, 2016 11:10 AM
@FaithYou have Draconic Cancer Moon, though. You never know, you could be headed in that direction lol. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7890 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted July 19, 2016 11:26 AM
^ lol you guys are soo funny. My husband has moon in cancer and loves big boobs and I have moon in Pisces conjunct IC and did not have big boobs but ended up getting implants so yes maybe moon in cancer is destined for big boobs.IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 21731 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 19, 2016 11:42 AM
editI'm crazy "You have Draconic Cancer Moon, though. You never know, you could be headed in that direction lol." Draco moon conjunct tropical Saturn though. It's always something. IP: Logged |
headintheclouds91 unregistered
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posted July 19, 2016 04:10 PM
I am air and water heavy and i have been confused for being a taurus riser a couple of times and i have nothing in taurus, but i do have strong venus influence and most of my personal planets are in earth houses. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7890 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted July 19, 2016 10:12 PM
Your eyes are watery headintheclouds . IP: Logged |
DualGem Knowflake Posts: 259 From: Toronto and Area, Leaving Ottawa Registered: Oct 2015
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posted July 19, 2016 10:47 PM
I think I know where your going with this...This happened to my Capricorn cousin. I knew his first born would be a Virgo. Capricorn Male (Earth) + Gemini Female(Air) = Virgo Child. EDIT -------> Surprise, surprise he was born in late Augest. ==================================== Gemini Sun, Capricorn Rising Aries Moon Gemini Mercury Venus Taurus Mars Cancer IP: Logged |
LittleBlackCat unregistered
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posted July 20, 2016 01:43 AM
quote: Originally posted by Electro DGX: Interesting analysis. I've been trying to analyze my chart to see how the Plutonian bits manage to play out with my strong Aquarian traits, especially since my chart is so Uranian. Strangely enough though, I feel more Scorpion than Aquarian even if I may express more Aquarian traits noticeable by others than Scorpio traits. Here's a pic of me if you want to make an analysis: *pic was here* (the Scorpio is really pronounced lol)
Aquarius is present for sure but wow your eyes are a dead giveaway that Scorpio is strong. Not only that but also the way the picture was taken / how you chose to position your body. My brother has Scorpio Asc. so I am very familiar with how the energy manifests in males. Whether you know it or not you probably make people nervous. Not b/c you do anything in particular, there is just a natural tendency to have gestures, stances, and stares that seem like a wolf in sheep's clothing. A person who is laid-back and easy-going enough, but somehow still seems intimidating / dangerous nonetheless. Another interesting thing about your photo is how the energies play out on your features (not just your pose, etc.). Your looks are Plutonian in structure (stoic jaw, intense eyes, resolute lips, etc) yet airy in color (not the usual dark brows, hair, eyes, etc). Very interesting. Nic pic by the way IP: Logged |