posted July 29, 2016 01:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
Well then that makes sense. Everyone just jumped at him without any real reason for doing so, and so that makes sense if that's what she meant.

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I don't know if that's what she meant...that's just my guess...

I don't want to interfere, referee, or even be here.

Hope everyone is having a nice day despite the existence of this thread.

posted July 29, 2016 01:24 PM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:

We're done. It's sad to happen this way but that's it for me. Don't email me or anything.
I don't dislike you or lack respect but that's it. I can't deal with these kinds of things.

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posted July 29, 2016 01:28 PM            

Clearly I have not mastered the art of knowing. I should have known to ignore this thread completely.

A whisper told me there was some bad juju here..im the dummy for fooling around.

posted July 29, 2016 02:13 PM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
I feel so stupid.
I'm sorry.
I'm not sure what to say.
I'll be offline for a while. Something crazy is in the air.

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Why feel stupid? I didn't feel worried or upset because it was a misunderstanding. Let it go like only a Mercurial can and lets hang on a more positive thread meant for the wellbeing of everyone.

posted July 29, 2016 02:29 PM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
I kind of feel like this is an insult to me, perhaps all of us. Am I wrong?

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How is talking about the current astrological trends and how it may be affecting this thread an insult to you or anyone else in this thread?

posted July 29, 2016 02:49 PM            

- It's not astrology

- It's not on the intended subject

- It contains weird energy and tension which is agreed upon by pretty much everyone currently posting.

- It doesn't even have real purpose or friendly off topic discussion.

posted July 29, 2016 03:51 PM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
Yes and you just contributed to that weird energy.
Welcome to the club.
Not even joking.

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Huh?

So now I'm not allowed to ask how my previous discussion insulted you without being accused of "contributing" to it? Really?

I'm sorry, but you're being way too sensitive to anything said here that you perceive to be a slight (even when it's clearly not).

posted July 29, 2016 04:02 PM            

Go read it!

"I kind of feel like this is an insult to me, perhaps all of us. Am I wrong?"

You tell me, I want to see the explanation that you come up with that any part of that was accusatory and failed to leave an open end for me to be wrong.

posted July 29, 2016 04:15 PM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
I could easily make the same argument. If you go back and READ, I phrased it as an honest question for him to be able to tell me that I'm wrong. Which he answered and I accepted that I was wrong. Then all was well until you came marching in.

Go read it!

"I kind of feel like this is an insult to me, perhaps all of us. Am I wrong?"

You tell me, I want to see the explanation that you come up with that any part of that was accusatory.

Go on. Where the **** is it? Explain that to me hotshot.

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My first comment was in reference to you commenting that a few of us commenting on the astrological happenings was somehow an insult to you. I still don't see how that personally insults you. Which is why I asked. I don't like being accused of playing a part insulting someone when I was having a harmless conversation with someone else.

Since I was the one of the first that started talking about that topic, and you referred to it as "this" and not "he" I assumed that you were also referring to me. Clarify if you don't want people to respond with their questions for clarification.

The accusatory part comes from you claiming that I was contributing to the weirdness in this thread by asking you why you felt insulted. I didn't contribute to it. You did with your defensive reply. You could have just said. "Whatever SV, I'm done talking about." But you didn't. You clearly wanted to start it back up.

The fact that you're mixing my two replies is bizarre. Please re-read my response and the context of those replies.

posted July 29, 2016 04:53 PM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
I'll explain later. (I actually have errands to do)

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posted July 29, 2016 04:56 PM            

I've been participating in a debate elsewhere on here. It's easy to assume that others are up to doing the same thing from time to time. My Gemini Moon should have known better.

I should have read through the rest of the stuff happening on here.

posted July 29, 2016 09:22 PM            

Since I've been ill, depressed, stuck (and had almost no hope left), I've only been okay if I am able to get out of the house for a while. Most of the time, not all. I brighten considerably. When I'm stuck, and anxiety (and more) take over, I'm awful to be around. I have to get out and walk it off, or distract myself.

I doubt I'd be catty in an office, but I haven't been stuck in one, so who knows?
I still don't think it's a Gemini Moon thing (the cattiness). For me, it's fear building up, and I feel like I'll explode. And the mistake of thinking that communicating is a good thing at that point. It isn't, and I never felt better having expressed anger towards a person. Privately, maybe, but not lashing out. And you can't take any of it back.

*edit. I thought I'd quoted charlie. I must have edited the whole thing out. I need to go back and find her post.

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Originally posted by charlie:

One thing with them is that they need constant stimuli for the brain. New things all them time or several things going on at the same time. If they feel stagnant or caged in they might get grumpy, mean or downright claustrophobic.

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posted July 30, 2016 02:35 AM              

The fact of the matter is that this whole thing is ridiculous, and no, not b/c I was involved in a disagreement. What is ridiculous is the reactions that followed. People are saying the argument was blown out of proportion but nothing did a better job at that than the over-the-top reactions. @Faith you say you feel I started the argument b/c I commented on Dop's post. Do you realize that a forum is a place where people read and comment on the posts of others? Have you never commented on another person's post saying you disagree? Of course you have and so have many others on this site. Likewise, I saw Dop's post and jokingly expressed my opposing stance (hence the lighthearted LOL obviously added). I am familiar with him, we joke all the time and I have never had any problems with him prior to this thread. So why anyone (including him) would think I was being mean/angry when I wrote that is beyond me. However, obviously he was greatly offended by it (probably due to whatever disagreements he already faced with others before I even joined the thread) and he got pretty nasty.

People seem to think I am somehow aloof and arrogant but I am actually rather perceptive and I am fully aware that my comment alone was not the sole reason for such a sensitive response from him. However, I chose to respond the way I did b/c I did not appreciate having inner frustrations / sensitivity being negatively projected onto me unfairly. Also, bringing up the Teasel thing is irrelevant b/c I had no knowledge of it when I wrote my comment to him (still don't). I was being 100% honest when I told you all that I was not feeling even 10% of what everyone else in the thread claimed to feel (not anger, sadness, offense, NOTHING). Why? Because the OP's post and Dop's post are literally like the only things I even read. I had no knowledge of any other tension or issues in this thread when I commented to him. PERIOD. Not that it would change the fact that I disagree with his statement that people can bond through malicious behavior without being malicious (that's never going to change). However, I may have had a better idea of how disturbingly sensitive, screwy, and emotionally unbalanced the majority of people in this thread were. I would know that normal things (like simply disagreeing with a post) might cause all hell to break loose.

Furthermore, @Stubborn Virgo, Electro DGX, and others I am not against people mentioning what astrological influences may have contributed to the situation. That's fine and makes sense. However, what does not make sense are certain indirect insults that come with it. Yes Jupiter can affect ego and expand "insecurities" etc, but it can also expand positive things as well, like a need to stand up for truth and what is right (especially when it is in the 9th house like mine). How dare anyone act like I was on an ego trip or something just because I said people can't bond in committing malicious behavior without also being of a malicious nature? Especially when nobody has yet to present a good argument to back it? If you say I'm wrong you better prove you're right. Period. I am not insecure about my intelligence at all and will gladly accept any argument that surpasses mine in logic. However, since nobody has, then obviously I will not go around accepting something as sensible just to avoid "confrontation" when I know in my heart it doesn't make sense. So if anything Jupiter did the exact opposite of w/e you were claiming, it helped to make me more connected to truth and good philosophy. @Elysia, you literally said "The way people bond is very much tied to their interests and bent of mind" while telling me I was wrong for saying people can only bond in malicious behavior if they are of a malicious nature. Is a person's bent of mind and interests not a reflection of their nature???? Sometimes I am seriously disturbed by the thought processes going around. So the next time any of you want to blame my behavior in this thread on negative astrological influences (instead of positive ones) ask yourself this: Can people bond in malicious behavior without being malicious?

If your answer is yes then you better also believe that people can enjoy harming others without being sadistic, that a person can repeatedly beat up their girlfriend without being abusive, and also might as well believe that birds can stay in the air without being able to fly. However if your answer is no, then do not ever call me immature, foolish, or a perpetuator of BS /negativity for being the only person brave enough to risk being disliked in the name of upholding truth and sense. If something doesn't make sense why do I have to pretend it does or silence myself just to please others? My argument with Dop was NEVER about w/e issues people had with Geminis or w/e else people were in a hissy-fit about. It also wasn't even about whether or not the women in the office were really being malicious (as OP could have easily been lying/exaggerating for personal reasons). It was just about Dop's statement in and of itself. It did not make sense and I voiced my opinion (like I should be allowed to do on a forum).

posted July 30, 2016 03:41 AM            

DopGang's statement in itself seemed to be as if he was trying to grasp onto a certain concept that he couldn't properly articulate, and so being unable to articulate it in the most efficient and precise way, he put it out in a format that can be defined as "flawed" since it does not 100% express what he was trying to get at in that point of time. While the statement itself may not make sense on a logical basis (not that it's certain), you LBC reacted to it as if it was ridiculous that he would make such an assumption, in a lighthearted way I'll admit. I don't feel like this post was enough to instigate the whole ordeal. You didn't directly insult him, but the tone you used seemed to be that of, "How could you possibly think that?" You didn't even mean for it to be an insult, and that's fine, it's just a part of the scenario. DopGang responded over not being interested in clarifying what he meant, possibly due to a frustration within your response that could've been invoked. For whatever the reason though, I do not remember seeing him instigate this entire ordeal because he was NOT the first to start lashing out at you; it was the other way around. Yes, he did lash out at the OP for a false claim (saying that he was "butthurt" over the situation), but he did not attack YOU directly. In fact, from what I am observing, it seems that people kept putting false claims onto his statements, which caused an extreme build-up of frustration, which then prompted him to act out on it.

Then, you quoted multiple posts that he made and lashed out at him directly, instigating the whole ordeal. If you did not do this, none of this crap would've took place, and that is an undeniable fact. You took the things that he said personally and made an attempt to directly lash at him over it, which it wasn't even directed at you. He got mad at the OP, and he got frustrated over the topic, but he wasn't trying to cause trouble. It was out of your whole being to react to what he said and lash out at him when that could've been avoided based on your own willpower. DopGang's statements may have been provoking in some sort of manner, but that is just how he gets his point across. He never literally said, "Little Black Cat is a stuck up, pretentious blah blah blah," before you lashed out at him initially. After that he insulted you directly, but he did not do that BEFORE you lashed out at him, which is the CAUSE of this whole situation. Just as you do, DopGang has the right to state what he wishes, and he stated how he felt about you after you replied to him in the way you did, yet you seem to be trying to turn the whole situation around as if he was the one causing all of these issues as time passed. DopGang's not a bad, sensitive person; he's just blunt about the things he says, that's just his character. I may even be wrong about his character, but what I'm trying to state is that he doesn't come on this forms to spread hatred and all of that crap.

Furthermore, I don't understand your extreme frustration with the statement that he made. It's a statement! It may not make any sense as you claim, but it certainly is nothing to create this much drama over. He was trying to analyze the situation at hand and suddenly it became the centerfold for this entire ordeal that could've been completely avoided. Nobody that was involved in this one-on-one argument is trying to tell you that you are an idiot incapable of rational thought, or that your ego sent you to cloud nine as you ramble on and on about how senseless you are or whatever crap people could make up to put you down; they're just expressing why you're wrong. I have to break it to you that you are indeed taking this extremely personal, even though you claim to be looking at it quite logically. It's clear that you're upset with all of these huge verbal-explosion posts that you're making, along with your Gemini Mars/Moon placement to back it up. I don't think you're stupid, egotistic, or whatever; I just think that you are indeed in the wrong in this situation. I understand that sometimes DopGang's posts can lack some serious tact that would otherwise do much good, but you did choose to lash out at him, and that's what started this whole thing. If you're willing to apologize for lashing out at him with that first post which instigated this whole thing, everything will fall back into proper place. That's how I see this whole situation, and so I've put in text for you to see. I still respect you as a friend, but as a friend, I will point out if you're wrong and will try to help you towards the best path to take.

posted July 30, 2016 05:58 AM            

If the notion that astrological placements and/or transits are affecting this thread offends you, then I'm truly sorry. I didn't mean to offend you or anyone else in this thread. I really do mean that.

posted July 30, 2016 07:19 AM            

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@Faith you say you feel I started the argument b/c I commented on Dop's post. Do you realize that a forum is a place where people read and comment on the posts of others? Have you never commented on another person's post saying you disagree? Of course you have and so have many others on this site.

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Yes

But when I do that, I'm AWARE of what I'm doing and take responsibility.

Whereas, apparently, you are one of these people who can dish it, but can't take it.

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However, I may have had a better idea of how disturbingly sensitive, screwy, and emotionally unbalanced the majority of people in this thread were.

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Your long tirades are "screwy."

posted July 30, 2016 07:41 AM            

Like the kid in math class who thinks he's so smart.. And argues with the other kid.. "Square root of -1??? Are you insane? Everyone knows you can't take the root of a negative number, you dumbf**k."
While the other kid is patiently trying to explain that square root of -1 is "i", an imaginary quantity.. The whole basis for the complex number system. In the number 2+3i, you only get the "2" part. But that ain't the whole story. Not by a long shot.

No need to attack other people's reasoning with self-righteous indignation just because you don't get it. We disagreed respectfully, you disagreed disrespectfully. That's the difference.

posted July 30, 2016 07:43 AM              

You know what? Anyone who feels like Electro need not speak to me. DO NOT SPEAK TO ME EVER. If not, then I have no issue with you. However, I am DONE insulting my own intelligence by even entertaining a discussion with ANYONE who can even begin to think I was wrong in this.

@Electro DGX: You clearly admit that my original post to Dop was light-hearted, not intended to be an insult, and not enough to instigate an ordeal. Yet in the same post you turn around and say that he was not the first to start lashing out at me, and that it was the other way around. If we agree that my initial post was light-hearted and that post was what Dop's incredibly rude rant was responding to then how the absolute h3ll did he not lash out first? I quoted his posts to me for this very reason, to show how over-the-top he was in responding to a simple light-hearted post from me. If you actually read the posts from him that I quoted you would know that. What the F do you think I was responding to? A rude disrespectful post is the ONLY kind of post I would ever respond to that way and you (and anyone else) thinking otherwise is an insult to my nature. Also I didn't (and still don't) care about w/e issue he had with OP. I only responded to posts he made to me directly, so even mentioning his dilemma with OP was irrelevant. If you can find a post with me responding to a post Dop made to OP please share it with me lol.

Then (omg this actually made me pi$$ed)....lol, THEN you had to gall to write this crap....

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
DopGang's statements may have been provoking in some sort of manner, but that is just how he gets his point across. + DopGang's not a bad, sensitive person; he's just blunt about the things he says, that's just his character. + It was out of your whole being to react to what he said and lash out at him when that could've been avoided based on your own willpower.

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EXCUSE ME?????? No . H3ll no. You are going on about how I should have handled this or that differently yet you make every excuse in the book for why his behavior should be accepted as "just how he is"? Well how about this. Not accepting nonsensical arguments, refusing to be insulted, and being somewhat verbally aggressive is "just how I get my point across" lol. Deal with it. He could have just as easily exercised his "willpower" and ignored me too. So there you go.

Also there is no extreme frustration with the statement he made, I have a frustration with the fact that NOBODY has the brain or the spine to admit I was right about his statement. I already know the statement doesn't make sense so what is there to be frustrated about regarding the statement itself? It's wrong. Period. However, when other's try to tell me I am wrong about what I KNOW I am not wrong about, then I have a problem. Don't ever tell me I am wrong about anything if you can't even have a reasonable argument / point to back it. Then you write "it's a statement!" with an exclamation mark like that makes sense. If someone states a racial slur or threatens someone it is taken seriously. Why? Because any sensible person knows there is power in what is said. If we let people go around saying incorrect things that don't make sense there is the danger of it penetrating the minds of the less aware. I refuse to have say a person can bond in malicious behavior without being malicious. Some fragile soul might see that and think "oh ok, so my boyfriend seems to get joy from treating me maliciously but that does not mean he is malicious". No. It means he is malicious and she needs to get the heck away from him. Period. You say that at least Dop doesn't come on here to spread hatred and "all of that crap" as if to imply that I do. Yet each time you or anyone else sweeps the ignorance of statements like Dop's post under the rug in the name of "avoiding confrontation" YOU are the one spreading hate. Anything that is not truth is hate because it harms those who may accept it as truth. Valuing friendship and "false peace" over truth and what is right / sensible is COWARDLY.

posted July 30, 2016 07:46 AM              

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Originally posted by StubbornVirgo:
I would like to point out that I meant no offense to you, LBC. I had a separate squabble with DG that had nothing to do with you. Yeah, it was in response to his response to you, but it wasn't directed at you. We squashed that misunderstanding almost immediately. I regret not clarifying that earlier in this thread.

If the notion that astrological placements and/or transits are affecting this thread offends you, then I'm truly sorry. I didn't mean to offend you or anyone else in this thread. I really do mean that.

I don't hold anything against you or anybody else in this thread, so the notion that I would ignore and/or avoid you doesn't make sense to me. Unless you want me to, in which case I would respect your request and avoid you.

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, no worries I am not against the discussion of astrological placements affecting this thread (I wrote that in my post). I just did not like that the focus was only on the negative influence.

posted July 30, 2016 08:00 AM              

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Originally posted by Faith:
Yes

But when I do that, I'm AWARE of what I'm doing and take responsibility.

Whereas, apparently, you are one of these people who can dish it, but can't take it.

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I was aware of what I was doing. I was making him aware that his post did not make sense (in a light-hearted way at that). He was just overly sensitive. Take responsibility for what? For not lying to someone about how much sense their post made? He is the one who did not want to take on the responsibility of "clarifying" his post.

Can dish it but can't take it? LOL, when have I ever made a statement that I could not back up? If someone came to my post and said "Ha LBC that post makes no sense, wth were you thinking" I would readily make a perfect argument to support my views, not get all angry and super sensitive about it. If it turns out that the other person's argument was better than mine (based on exceptional supporting points) I would admit it and move on.

So don't say stupid things Faith. I can more than take what I dish out and then some. Stop speaking to me if you aren't going to make sense. I don't care about being on good terms with you at all. I would rather be on good terms with having sense. You would rather be on good terms with anything but reality 80% of the time.

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Originally posted by Faith:
@LBC

Your long tirades are "screwy."

And please note: just because a thread gets weird doesn't mean the people themselves (ourselves) are messed up.

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