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cchampliss2
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posted July 26, 2016 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cchampliss2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is a problem at work with these three older supervisors who are known for being gossips and spreading rumors about their coworkers. I was never concerned with them because they weren't in my dept. and also, because they clearly have nothing better to do. Their trouble has spread to my dept though and I have to deal with the aftermath because they have made the work environment pretty uncomfortable for two specific women I work with.

I got a hold of their birthdays and birth places so I ran up their charts. They have prominent Gemini placements:

Gossip One is a Gem sun and mercury conjunct
Gossip Two is a Cancer sun with Gem mercury
Gossip Three is a Cancer sun and mercury but moon, venus, and mars in gemini

What's up folks? What's the deal?

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posted July 26, 2016 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And here you are talking about them behind their backs? Two wrongs don't make a right, ya know!

kidding

Just wanted to say HI!

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posted July 26, 2016 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh. My. Gosh Becky, just look at her butt!

Maybe the problem isn't that they're talking, but that what they're saying lacks depth..

What makes a Gemini deep?

Cookies!

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posted July 26, 2016 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cchampliss2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
And here you are talking about them behind their backs? Two wrongs don't make a right, ya know!

kidding

Just wanted to say HI!


That's hardly talking about them behind their backs, but okay.

Hello to you and your Gemini Mars, too.

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posted July 26, 2016 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cchampliss2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
Oh. My. Gosh Becky, just look at her butt!

Maybe the problem isn't that they're talking, but that what they're saying lacks depth..

What makes a Gemini deep?

Cookies!

Gem Mars Cancer Sun


I think that might be the case but I think Gemini is just known for easy, light hearted bantering. Which didnt bother me before. The trouble now is that it is affecting people I know and work with, so I have to step in. I'm a Cap Sun and Mercury, so no time for free chatter. But I don't care if anyone else does it, until it affects the workplace. That should all be pretty normal for Caps. I'm trying to see if Gems have that depth to understand that it's not conducive to a healthy work environment to do this sort of thing. Or if it's just a lost cause for Gems to understand that.

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posted July 26, 2016 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 26, 2016 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kiimberly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the overall generalization that Gemini is the problem vs. the people and their entire chart workings and how they are acting in a professional environment is unfair. I don't know anything about what these people have actually been saying. Are they causing real harm and disturbance, or are you and your Cap sun just annoyed that it's impractical? I am a Cap sun as well and I understand the frustration that comes with impracticality and perceived time wasters (though I am a Sag Mercury, so for me it's always free chatter time).

Gemini has a terrible rep of being a terrible sign that can't be trusted and is two faced. The potential for gossip exists many places in the chart. Obviously Mercury plays a huge role, but so can everything else. Two of the people have Cancer suns. Sometimes depth of emotion can become insecurity which can become rumor-spreading and gossiping. The fact that they all have heavy Gemini placement and seem to group together as the office rumor mill probably has more to do with their synastry than with Gemini alone. Three people with that much placed that closely carry the potential for a really intense relationship.

Honestly I would need to see more placements to understand the astrology of their gossiping better. It may be Gemini in this case, but that really only explains why they get along so well and why they love to talk about the people around them so much. Chatter alone is not evil or mean-spirited, so I'd imagine there are other things that may affect the darker side of things.

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posted July 26, 2016 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you elaborate on the gossip itself?

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posted July 26, 2016 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kiimberly:

Two of the people have Cancer suns. Sometimes depth of emotion can become insecurity which can become rumor-spreading and gossiping.

This is what I wanted to say about the Cancer placements.

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The fact that they all have heavy Gemini placement and seem to group together as the office rumor mill probably has more to do with their synastry than with Gemini alone.

great point

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posted July 26, 2016 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cchampliss2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The gossip itself involves two women who work in my dept. and their credentials, how they've gotten to the position they're in. The two that work with me are younger, who have both just gotten promoted. They make more money, so they're able to take more time off. One is thinking about starting a family. The other has plans to do some work overseas. They started as interns, and have worked their way up. They just look different and act different, even I've noticed. But in a way that shows they're finally comfortable here and I respect that. The other women have made comments about what they "did to get to the top". I will let your imagination run away with that and it won't be far off. Also, they've made comments on their looks mostly, their humble beginnings, and what bothers me the most, their ethnic backgrounds. If it goes any further, me and other colleagues and HR have to come together and stop it.

@kimberly, their gossip is very mean spirited with the intent to do harm and to tarnish the professional reputation of the other women. I hate that I have to gender these people, because it plays into those stereotypes that I dislike and don't believe focuses on the individual person. I am a Cap sun and Mercury, yeah I don't put up with BS or impracticality. But I do believe people I work with are happier and more successful when they have time to just have fun and chatter and not take things so seriously. So I'm not against that at all. I am against gossip and rumors that harm people's reputation and esteem just because some older, washed out folks feel threatened and insecure and just lack any depth to understand that.

Edit: the fact that I have to take time out of my day to deal with this makes my Cap sun, Mercury and Mars fired up because it takes away from my work that I wanted to finish early, so I could end my week early, so I can start my weekend early, to spend time with my family.

^^^ in case you're wondering why I'm so heated about this. Lol

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posted July 26, 2016 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DualGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gemini sun 5th house
Mercury Conjunct Sun.
Capricorn Rising.

Your concerns are well founded and I agree with the order you put the supervisors in.

The Gemini gossips, feeds the Cancers info and makes them feel insecure.

Then the Cancers feel insecure about there job.

I doubt the girls are any real threat to the Gem. He might feel a little concerned but he can quickly come up with something to deal with it and feel confident it might just work.

Gems always know how to get out of situations or have a contingency and know how to "run" when needed.

My question is is the Gem bored with his job?
He might be good at what he does but is he getting stagnant? Might be time for some change?

You can expect unusual behavior when a gem is caged to long.

If its that it problem solved..but if its out of spite then that's a different strategy.

I would like to assume its just a bored Gem acting out of character.

Off topic my sister is a Capricorn and your handling it the way she would, lol.

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Gemini Mercury
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posted July 26, 2016 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DualGem:

My question is is the Gem bored with his job?
He might be good at what he does but is he getting stagnant? Might be time for some change?
You can expect unusual behavior when a gem is caged to long.
I would like to assume its just a bored Gem acting out of character.

I agree with this.
I don't think they are being malicious to tear anyone down but bonding through being malicious. If that makes any sense. Not to say that it's not serious and doesn't need attention.

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posted July 26, 2016 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cchampliss2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DualGem:

Off topic my sister is a Capricorn and your handling it the way she would, lol.


This actually made me laugh. Gotta love those consistent Cap traits.


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posted July 26, 2016 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cchampliss2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DopGang:
I agree with this.
I don't think they are being malicious to tear anyone down but bonding through being malicious. If that makes any sense. Not to say that it's not serious and doesn't need attention.

It does make sense and it doesn't. I suppose that is somewhat double-sided like Gems can be. I hope that their intentions aren't malicious, but I am going to stick with what I have seen and know now that they are. I guess there's sort of the shadow side to every sign though so I'm not grouping all Gems--or even Cancers for that matter. They all have been put on alert though and let's just say their facial expressions were all quite priceless.

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posted July 26, 2016 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My mother has Sun, mercury, venus, and mars in gemini.

Moon in Aries.

Two-faced is a little harsh, but she is super fickle.

I'm a Scorpio Sun, mercury, venus with mars in Sagittarius.

Moon in libra square Uranus and Neptune, trine Saturn.

My mother is a peace maker by any means necessary. She'll avoid the truth of a matter at all costs if it means saving the peace. It's annoying and hurtful a lot of the time, but I'm learning how to just accept it as part of who she is.

I love her regardless, but I do understand where you guys are coming from. Definitely.

Haha

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posted July 26, 2016 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DualGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by cchampliss2:
...I hope that their intentions aren't malicious....

I'm not there so I don't know 100%.
I can only assume base on what you tell me.

Its better to assume good before the evil.

If it is malicious then the Gem is clearly manipulating the Cancers to make then feel insecure so its the Cancers that gets rid of the girls, not him.

Even thought he's the "mastermind"

If management is okay with it have him work from home, it might do the trick. At least he won't feel caged and he will be unable to gossip or say anything in the office.

If its not malicious he'll take the offer with a heart beat since he'll be given some freedom. If it is malicious you should get a different reaction out of him.

Just get him away from the Cancers, he's feeding them ideas.

But I wouldn't push his buttons, he and the Cancers could hit back with a long legal battle and ruin everything....even if he is found to be in the wrong the work environment may never recover from the fallout.

That's what I meant by "thats how my sister would handle it".

I would already have an idea what she would and come up with some way to counter her.
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posted July 26, 2016 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Something cool about Geminis is if this thread leaned more toward ...leaning toward bashing Cancers or Taurus or Leos ..or something they might not take it so lightly.

While you've got a few broken ones on your hands, Geminis offer a wonderful balance to those of us who take ourselves very very seriously.

Cancer Sun
Taurus Moon
Leo Asc
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posted July 26, 2016 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
Something cool about Geminis is if this thread leaned more toward ...leaning toward bashing Cancers or Taurus or Leos ..or something they might not take it so lightly.

While you've got a few broken ones on your hands, Geminis offer a wonderful balance to those of us who take ourselves very very seriously.

Cancer Sun
Taurus Moon
Leo Asc
Gemini


I agree!

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posted July 26, 2016 08:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeholdAstarte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hard aspects between mercury and the moon usually signify gossiping. makes sense

I only really have been close to 2 geminis in my life, they were my close friends and both broke off due to them being controlling and mean/harsh, but one gemini has a scorpio rising, aries moon, and the other had virgo rising, scorpio moon and sun conj Jupiter. so maybe that's why..

the second gemini with scorpio moon and her sun conj Jupiter I knew better and was more recent. she was EXTREMELY two faced and changeable, and was super negative which kind of surprises me because of her Jupiter conj? but Jupiter is in gemini.. anyways, she constantly had something bad to say about majority of people she brought up, only to later say she liked them and when she saw people in person she never actually acted like she didn't like them. so it was confusing, and very obvious of how insecure she was. it was very interesting to me that she would spin these mental webs and not be able to tell the difference between her own perception.. and what was actually real. she eventually got so paranoid she started making things up and believing them, then taking it out on me. which.. my strong mars and pluto does not take and immediately chewed her crazy ass out and cut her out for good.
honestly, I felt like she blabbed so much she didn't really remember what she said a lot of the time or even listened, which ive noticed is a very common trait amongst that axis.. particularly sag/Jupiter.


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posted July 26, 2016 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cchampliss2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
Something cool about Geminis is if this thread leaned more toward ...leaning toward bashing Cancers or Taurus or Leos ..or something they might not take it so lightly.

While you've got a few broken ones on your hands, Geminis offer a wonderful balance to those of us who take ourselves very very seriously.

Cancer Sun
Taurus Moon
Leo Asc
Gemini


I agree wholeheartedly and usually Cancers do that for me when they bring in homebaked cookies. I might be a serious Cap but I'm not aversed to baked goods.

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posted July 26, 2016 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cchampliss2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DualGem:
I'm not there so I don't know 100%.
I can only assume base on what you tell me.

Its better to assume good before the evil.

If it is malicious then the Gem is clearly manipulating the Cancers to make then feel insecure so its the Cancers that gets rid of the girls, not him.

Even thought he's the "mastermind"

If management is okay with it have him work from home, it might do the trick. At least he won't feel caged and he will be unable to gossip or say anything in the office.

If its not malicious he'll take the offer with a heart beat since he'll be given some freedom. If it is malicious you should get a different reaction out of him.

Just get him away from the Cancers, he's feeding them ideas.

But I wouldn't push his buttons, he and the Cancers could hit back with a long legal battle and ruin everything....even if he is found to be in the wrong the work environment may never recover from the fallout.

That's what I meant by "thats how my sister would handle it".

I would already have an idea what she would and come up with some way to counter her.
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Aries Moon
Gemini Mercury
Venus Taurus
Mars Cancer


We have offered some of them opportunities to travel for work, which is what I do often myself, but they haven't been interested. I'm not sure why or if that can point to their charts. I don't think that I've given them enough credit. They're actually great at what they do, but they aren't into mentoring others or moving depts. These have all been suggested in order to get them out of their offices and out of their boredom.

I appreciate your feedback. I am looking at the title of this post and realize it can be misunderstood. My apologies.

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posted July 27, 2016 06:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Gemini Moon/Mars in my 4th house. I had a Gemini Sun training me for a new job one day. She actually wasn't supposed to be training at all (because of, guess what... drama and gossip) but my coworker was out sick, so I really had no choice.

Anyway, by lunchtime I was questioning why I had agreed to be trained by her. She spent half of her time rushing around like a maniac and the other half gossiping about her coworkers. A couple of months later, she zeroed in on me as her new target. I left that job shortly after.

Not the same thing at all, but. I know how vicious office gossip can be, even the typically harmless kind that most people don't think about. It adds up over time, and when you're the newbie, it's easy to feel hopeless, depressed, etc. It's easy to quit.

My advice would be to separate them. Maybe see if the Gemini (or Cancers) want to work on a special project or task. All else fails, can they be moved to different shifts or days? I'm not sure what else could be done. My manager at the time called a staff meeting and told everyone to be nice to the new employees, but that really just made it worse. I wouldn't advise doing that.

No quoting please.

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posted July 27, 2016 07:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini Blues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
Something cool about Geminis is if this thread leaned more toward ...leaning toward bashing Cancers or Taurus or Leos ..or something they might not take it so lightly.

While you've got a few broken ones on your hands, Geminis offer a wonderful balance to those of us who take ourselves very very seriously.

Cancer Sun
Taurus Moon
Leo Asc
Gemini


...until you get one with a 10 house Leo Moon, Scorp Asc, Mars in Taurus like me to come along... *sigh*

Let's bash 1/12 of the human race because 2 women, only one of which is a Gemini, are causing problems at work. Let's do so on a thread complaining about how *they* gossip and chatter?

Irony...

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posted July 27, 2016 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DualGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@cchampliss2
But, your right thought there is a limit to whats acceptable and not.

Especially if he's been there very long or in a respected position, its easy for a Gemini to get too causal with his conversations.

So a little warning should suffice.

@StubbornVirgo.
Gemini women in the workplace are either a "hoot" or completely insane.

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posted July 27, 2016 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kiimberly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gemini Blues:
...until you get one with a 10 house Leo Moon, Scorp Asc, Mars in Taurus like me to come along... *sigh*

Let's bash 1/12 of the human race because 2 women, only one of which is a Gemini, are causing problems at work. Let's do so on a thread complaining about how *they* gossip and chatter?

Irony...


To be fair, OP is stressed by the situation, and everyone else came through to defend the Gemini spirit (gemini is one of my favs 💚 . People say things they don't mean when they are upset.

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