posted August 12, 2016 08:35 AM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
I don't know if it's Virgo alone, or my 12th/Virgo combination. While I like to be alone a lot and superficial things can bore me. Helping others gives ME healing. It lifts me. It can be teaching them something at work or helping someone through a personal issue. Anything.
There's two things though:

They have to want the help, whether it's a big thing or a small thing.

I have to be careful to balance how much is too much helping others. It's healing and lifting but too much can stress me and suck my energy dry. I need that "just right" balance between the two.

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That's nice to hear.

posted August 12, 2016 08:50 AM            

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Originally posted by Federal_Reserve:
Duality

Pisces is a dual sign, meaning "I want to help you, yet I can't help myself."

"I want to serve you, yet I can't serve myself."

In fact, this phenomenon persists in various types of actions. This wavering, doubtfulness in head - always tries to seek reassurance somewhere else, portraying so called Pisces as a weak minded individual. At the highest extremes, Pisces admits its inefficiencies, manipulating it's way trough society as either the "wanna be servants" or "wanna be victims".

Moving on...

As you could observe, a lot of Pisces 'suns' revealed themselves through the ancient history as religious priests, monks and a servants of gods. Positioning themselves as:

"I am here to serve you all.". This is tricky. In fact it looks like truth. But yet goes the saying: People believe in what they want to believe.

Moving yet again...

In fact, Pisces as a kings trough the ancient history were neither brave nor fearless. Their leadership could be described as:

"I am here to share my wisdom." - people wanted a wise ruler to rule them all, is it because Pisces were so wise or is it because they managed to deceive the hungry crowd ?

Same goes for business, "I am here to help you make a fortune. Yet I haven't build my fortune yet." - Money managing business.

Pisces is a deceiving sign to me, in fact, it's tricky.

"The deceiver will always find someone willing to be deceived." Hence the name Federal Reserve*

"I am loyal, yet I betray."

"If I may devour myself, it's because of lack of help, If I devour you instead, it's because you help too much."

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I love this post.

posted August 12, 2016 08:51 AM            

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Originally posted by Selenite:

-severed faith

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posted August 12, 2016 08:55 AM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
Oh. I meant "men". Not mean. I'm sure my phone made some other "corrections". LOL

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posted August 12, 2016 08:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Federal_Reserve:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by vertiver:
[b]... In the advanced type it leads to a desire to know the truth at a deep spiritual level, and even to sacrifice oneself for the truth. This is the manifestation of the martyr, in the true sense of the word, as opposed to the victim.

Duality

Pisces is a dual sign, meaning "I want to help you, yet I can't help myself."

"I want to serve you, yet I can't serve myself."

In fact, this phenomenon persists in various types of actions. This wavering, doubtfulness in head - always tries to seek reassurance somewhere else, portraying so called Pisces as a weak minded individual. At the highest extremes, Pisces admits its inefficiencies, manipulating it's way trough society as either the "wanna be servants" or "wanna be victims".

Moving on...

As you could observe, a lot of Pisces 'suns' revealed themselves through the ancient history as religious priests, monks and a servants of gods. Positioning themselves as:

"I am here to serve you all.". This is tricky. In fact it looks like truth. But yet goes the saying: People believe in what they want to believe.

Moving yet again...

In fact, Pisces as a kings trough the ancient history were neither brave nor fearless. Their leadership could be described as:

"I am here to share my wisdom." - people wanted a wise ruler to rule them all, is it because Pisces were so wise or is it because they managed to deceive the hungry crowd ?

Same goes for business, "I am here to help you make a fortune. Yet I haven't build my fortune yet." - Money managing business.

Pisces is a deceiving sign to me, in fact, it's tricky.

"The deceiver will always find someone willing to be deceived." Hence the name Federal Reserve*
[/B]

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posted August 12, 2016 09:15 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
That's nice to hear.

edit - will save it for a Virgo thread.

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posted August 12, 2016 09:35 AM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
I'll keep my eyes open for it.

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This comment makes me feel like flirting with you, but for many reasons I feel that is a bad idea.

posted August 12, 2016 10:00 AM            

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Originally posted by Federal_Reserve:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by vertiver:
[b]... In the advanced type it leads to a desire to know the truth at a deep spiritual level, and even to sacrifice oneself for the truth. This is the manifestation of the martyr, in the true sense of the word, as opposed to the victim.

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Duality

Pisces is a dual sign, meaning "I want to help you, yet I can't help myself."

"I want to serve you, yet I can't serve myself."

In fact, this phenomenon persists in various types of actions. This wavering, doubtfulness in head - always tries to seek reassurance somewhere else, portraying so called Pisces as a weak minded individual. At the highest extremes, Pisces admits its inefficiencies, manipulating it's way trough society as either the "wanna be servants" or "wanna be victims".

Moving on...

As you could observe, a lot of Pisces 'suns' revealed themselves through the ancient history as religious priests, monks and a servants of gods. Positioning themselves as:

"I am here to serve you all.". This is tricky. In fact it looks like truth. But yet goes the saying: People believe in what they want to believe.

Moving yet again...

In fact, Pisces as a kings trough the ancient history were neither brave nor fearless. Their leadership could be described as:

"I am here to share my wisdom." - people wanted a wise ruler to rule them all, is it because Pisces were so wise or is it because they managed to deceive the hungry crowd ?

Same goes for business, "I am here to help you make a fortune. Yet I haven't build my fortune yet." - Money managing business.

Pisces is a deceiving sign to me, in fact, it's tricky.

"The deceiver will always find someone willing to be deceived." Hence the name Federal Reserve*

"I am loyal, yet I betray."

"If I may devour myself, it's because of lack of help, If I devour you instead, it's because you help too much."[/B][/QUOTE]

This is very useful to me.

posted August 12, 2016 10:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:

Anyway, nice weather we're having, I'm going for a walk....

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This is last night here and more of the same today.

posted August 12, 2016 11:35 AM            

I had a nice walk, thanks.

Hope I didn't kill the thread by saying something far out. Well it wouldn't be the first time.

posted August 12, 2016 01:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Elysia:
^ yeah...
Hyptia, would you please unquote me? I erased coz it's just an experience and I'd rather it not be taken at face value..

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posted August 12, 2016 01:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
I don't know what to say...but I know what you mean about "compassion fatigue," it's easy to see how you would get that. Not saying that based on your placements but on the way you are always trying to help. Hope you get a break and can feel much better soon! And don't worry about this thread, it's super high maintenance! Save your nerves.

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Faith I am a mental health counselor and work from Monday to Thursday for 10 hours and my commute is an hour and 10 minutes. My husband is a talker and I then come home and he needs attention and support bc he is stressed out and I am his main social support. I tell him "I am tired" to let him know I need him to leave me alone so I can recharge but this doesn't always translate or gets supported so then we fight lol and I am not getting enough sleep at least 4 times during the week..

posted August 12, 2016 01:55 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Faith I am a mental health counselor and work from Monday to Thursday for 10 hours and my commute is an hour and 10 minutes. My husband is a talker and I then come home and he needs attention and support bc he is stressed out and I am his main social support. I tell him "I am tired" to let him know I need him to leave me alone so I can recharge but this doesn't always translate or gets supported so then we fight lol and I am not getting enough sleep at least 4 times during the week..

The compassion fatigue is from my line of work.... everyone's life is hard so I am not complaining I am just painting a picture of why I am tired and have compassion fatigue keeping in mind my placements.

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posted August 12, 2016 02:16 PM            

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Originally posted by soren:
Paul, I recommend finding somewhere to relax and do nothing, its what I do. But not with me.

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posted August 12, 2016 02:53 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I was burned out yesterday. I just read your comment after a good night sleep and are you sure you want me to unquote? You should be very proud of what you said. It's great stuff!

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Hehe! Well, thanks..
I just didn't want people to misunderstand and label me a Pisces-hater or whatever. Easy to jump to conclusions when you're just reading some random post online..

posted August 12, 2016 02:59 PM            

Lol kidding. I think it may have to do with how Pisces is always put up to be the most "evolved" sign, so in that sense some Pisceans can let this get to their heads and let it sway their ways of thinking.

Perhaps it's also the struggle of trying to identify the true power of Pisces. If it really is such a poweful sign, perhaps it's in the same dilemma as Scorpio where so many people struggle to realize its true potential.

I hope my Pisces Jupiter is being expressive today lol.

posted August 12, 2016 03:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
Omg Elysia you're such a Pisces hater like gosh, my Pisces friends are all crying now like wtf?!

Lol kidding. I think it may have to do with how Pisces is always put up to be the most "evolved" sign, so in that sense some Pisceans can let this get to their heads and let it sway their ways of thinking.

Perhaps it's also the struggle of trying to identify the true power of Pisces. If it really is such a poweful sign, perhaps it's in the same dilemma as Scorpio where so many people struggle to realize its true potential.

I hope my Pisces Jupiter is being expressive today lol.

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posted August 12, 2016 03:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Elysia:
Hehe! Well, thanks..
I just didn't want people to misunderstand and label me a Pisces-hater or whatever. Easy to jump to conclusions when you're just reading some random post online..

But I did have very solid reasons for writing what I wrote so yeah, leave it up there. Let the chips fall where they may.

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posted August 12, 2016 03:12 PM            

But, I'm a 12H moon myself, so I kinda understand some of the struggles. Don't want to get into all that, but -- my only point was, others get flak for things they shouldn't.. çoz they're also in pain and going through stuff, etc. It's just not as apparent.

posted August 12, 2016 07:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
@Faith,

I must be really mentally perverse then, because kindness and niceness comes very easily to me.

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It comes easily with everyone, all the time? Wow

No one would call that mentally perverse.

posted August 13, 2016 01:13 AM            

oh, I've had moments where I've been rude. But it's probably my severe depression in my teens, rather than trying to be rude on purpose. Mental psychosis is a damning thing!