posted August 25, 2016 05:39 AM            

I am sorry for that.
I can understand you, my mom is not intellectual/intelligent too. I suffered a lot because of it but in different ways than yours.

Pluto trine Mars is not a hard aspect
In fact it is halpful.

You have Mars debilated in Cancer
And Venus opposite Pluto
That would be the reason

Also Neptune opposite Mars and
Uranus opposite Sun (in 5th h)
Help the difficult aspects mentioned above.

posted August 25, 2016 11:54 AM            

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Originally posted by DualGemV2:
I have Pluto trine Mars as described earlier.

I'm not in a relationship right now and I don't intend to.

I have a lot of goals I want to catch up on, so I don't have time for a relationship.

My parents aren't very intellectual, they always pressured me to get the minimum amount of education and then work in the gov.

They derailed my plans, but fortunately I have the initiative again.

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OMG!
DualGem you are the twinbirth of my ex lover!
you guys born on the exact same day and year, only different cities and hours obviously!

he only has an older brother and his parents are exactly like yours!

Pluto trine mars is clearly an indicator but I have noticed this about the majority of people with Saturn in Scorpio (worst if it is in aspects to the sun, angles or the personal planets): staying a virgin longer than others, as scorpio rules sex organs and here is suppressed by saturn.

posted August 25, 2016 12:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Gemini30:
Mars/Pluto definitely delays. Also this aspect promotes abstinance.

However, on the other side (good ol'Pluto) this apect can make one a sex addict, or perverse.

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posted August 25, 2016 06:53 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Btw, though a bit OT on internet and dating, I've been getting "how to pick up girls" recommended to me in YT.

This started a couple of weeks or so ago and wondered why this would be recommended to me, and I realized it started right about the same time I was having a bunch of video games recommended to me! Mid to late July I started researching League of Legends and other games and ended up watching some YT videos on it as well with a focus on characters and story, which generally included video game strategies and reviews, and a few brilliant trailers that I wish were for movies rather than video games. The recommendations for video game vids, and how to pick up women, started soon after.

Once I realized why I was getting them I took to ignoring them, but this morning I got curious and watched a couple. Both were a little flash (tips and stuff, and trying to sound "scientific" about it) before trying to get your cash (or at least clicking their links which I wasn't about to do).

One, they both encouraged playing mind games with women that made me think of several threads on LL talking about guys acting that way, like seeming to be into her and then going cold for awhile, basically to build up the stress and tension so that she will want him more, get to wondering what happened which gets her to obsess over him, and then his attention later will seem more rewarding as it brings greater relief (sounds like a strategy to catch fish--how to not try to reel a fish in too fast--rather than women to me, but gotta say, going by plenty of LL threads the strategy is effective, at least when they time it just right, and as one of the vids pointed out it's a common theme in romance genre because it works--but if not timed just right then it would blow up in his face with both parting upset with the other, and even if it did work he's still not bonding to her as a person, which probably makes it difficult to have sex, especially when she has a mind of her own about how things are supposed to go, one that is usually nothing like a porn script, that makes him very unsure of himself).

I just have to wonder...what happens when guys playing these mind games they hear about play them against women who are playing their own mind game strategies they read about in Cosmo on him?

The second is that I wonder if this is a sign that guys really into video games are more geared to solitary interaction (at least through a computer) rather than learning actual relationship skills and bonding with people on a deeper level? (The brain also learns by repetition, and if most repetitive actions are online with almost nothing offline then it's even more so like this.) IF it is then it could add why internet porn works so much more for them than a real relationship. And if they were then pressured (or desiring on their own) to try for a real relationship then these vids (which make me wonder how much like "cheat codes" they are applied to human relationships rather than games) would appeal, and that would help explain why I started getting them after watching vids on video games. (Worth noting another vid was on how to "pick up younger women" that I meant to get to, mainly to figure out what age range is being targeted, but 2 vids was about all I could stand for now. I might watch that other one later.)

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ADDENDUM:

Oh for crying out loud, now I'm now getting anti-feminism vids recommended to me on YT as well as vids on like "how to last longer (as a man) in bed."

As far as I can tell that's because I finally (after weeks) started clicking on the Pick Up Artist vids. This is starting to annoy me and I'm going to try to find a way to change or turn off the recommendations.

That aside, it does suggest to me that those who use PUA vids (and similar media) feel very frustrated with women in general, AND seem to either lack sexual stamina (even ability?) of any kind or feel very insecure about it (probably from lack of experience).

So to review: I start looking into video games which includes my watching trailers, reviews, strategies, and YT starts to assume I'm a male 25 or younger (I think) and promotes PUA vids. I finally view a couple of PUA vids out of curiosity and now I'm getting anti-feminism and sexual dysfunction vids! I realize correlation doesn't equal causation, but I can't help but think that these are connected somehow, that all the trackers and cookies that monitor internet traffic trying to customize their marketing strategies have built up a profile, and these recommendations are based on those profiles done from extensive market research (granted, by software rather than researchers, but software sifts through a lot more than people do).

So to me this implies that a great many obsessive players of video games have trouble maintaining normal relationships with women--not all, but enough to offer PUA vids to that demographic. And of those who start clicking on them, YT (at least their software) starts assuming sexual dysfunction and/or insecurity on their part and/or have a hatred of women, so recommends the vids that would interest them. And I could see those who fit that profile really getting into the porn as not only an alternative, but also to cater to their misogyny (granted, not all porn is particularly violent or hostile, but plenty of it is, and if they have such a problem relating to women as human beings, even hate them, then their porn viewing habits would reflect that), in which case I'd think obsessive porn was just another symptom of a more fundamental inner dysfunction than the cause of it (though it could worsen the problems that already exist).

posted August 27, 2016 03:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Saturn8_Me:
If you're still interested. Here's a chart for a 21yr old female.... It's not like opportunities have not presented themselves...... So, why? Because of standards/picky-ness/and emotional sensitivity (not trying to get hurt or hold on to someone). Will stay this way until married. Will die a virgin, if need be .

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Of course I am still interested

I see Saturn in 5th H
Saturn opposite Mars
Mars is in Virgo..
And Venus square Saturn..
Node in close conjunction with ASC
And although the Moon opposition Saturn itself doesn't indicate a late bloomer I think it doesn't help the combination mentioned above either.

You have many of the ones that are reffered in here but you are still young.

posted August 28, 2016 02:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:

Faith

English is not my mother language so I may make many mistakes in the way I express myself.
Yes I meant that men not all of them of course but its a common problem for many them the fact that they see their wives like siblings after having children with them. So some of them have sex but it's not the same as before, they feel kind of guilty and they do not feel the same pleasure and some of them can not even have sex anymore.
I hope I could express it better this time for you to understand.

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It dosent work like that - most men are left hanging after their wifes give birth,because women are more tiered,they lose the drive and men often are afraid not to hurt them,yada,yada,yada....then the problem of kids sleeping in their bed arises,or they feel uncomfortable when kids are in the house,and then they have jobs and they miss eachother in the house all the time...and so on,but those who really badly want sex will get it this or that way.

posted August 28, 2016 02:58 PM            

Astra, PlutonicGemini94 and I.

Newspaper astrology always puts Gemini suns as flirty and promiscuous.

Unless the three of us are unique or know something everyone else doesn't know...

posted August 28, 2016 05:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Hemilla:
Pixie Jane,Christian Grey dosent hate women but is afraid of them,he is afraid of having emotional bond with them,thus need for domination,one thing a woman he could be intimate with teached him,to dominate and let tension and fears out through s&m - he was abused as a child and his mother died (i think) so he couldnt connect with women,and he needed to change the negative side of what his abuser has done to him to something positive (first he was a sub,he learned to enjoy pain through sex and then dom,he learned that he can have controll in sex,wich as an abused kid he didnt have) woman whom he chose in the end,woman that cracked his shell looked like his mother....so the guy in the book is more than sex,billionair abuser fetishist,thas why so many women were attracted to him,he is broken but good person,many women like fixing people.

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The guy acted like something out of a porn sitch, one that makes women into victims and likes it. Though I realize they toned down Christian's abusive behavior in the movie, it's still really bad.

And even most of those in the BDSM subculture, like these 3 , don't want to be associated with him and consider Christian a dangerous psychopath. This explains the difference between actual BDSM and Christian Grey's abusive behavior.

And if we're going to give some blame to porn for men victimizing women then why not 50 Shades of Grey as this guy says he was acting out with his former girlfriend? (Just to be clear, a scene like that is in the book as described by this practioner of BDSM who is disgusted with this book here ) And more on why it's harmful and feeds into the "she was asking for it."

And this is a problem, especially as many of us have known (or even have been) the woman who goes back to her abuser time and time again because she has a warped idea of the abuser just needing the love of a good woman (it works in so many fairy tales and romance novels, after all). Males are getting warped ideas of love and sex through porn...and so are females through books like this which really is a type of porn in of itself, just with more backstory and giving Christian many of the qualities that most love interests in romance novels have (which are themselves often messed up, just not this bad, usually).

posted August 28, 2016 07:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
Astra

You have Pluto opposite Venus
Uranus opposite Sun and Mercury
(both in 5th house)
I've also read that North Node in angle houses (1st, 4th, 7th, 10th) lead to marriage after 30-35 years old.
I can understand delay of marriage with North Node in 1st or 7th H but I can not understand why the same happens when North Node is in 4th or 10th H.
But you have North Node in 4th H.
In 5th H you also have Chiron
And Lord of 7th H is in your 1st H

These are what I can see

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Thank you, PlutOnian. That was quite helpful. I also have Saturn in Scorpio, which is my chart ruler. That probably also causes delays.

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I'm surprised three Gemini's commented on this thread.
Astra, PlutonicGemini94 and I.

Newspaper astrology always puts Gemini suns as flirty and promiscuous.

Unless the three of us are unique or know something everyone else doesn't know...

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That's a pretty good point! I have a number of Gemini sun friends or those with strong Gemini influences, and not a single one of them is promiscuous. A couple of them are a few years older than me and are virgins. One of them wants to be a nun.

posted August 29, 2016 04:01 AM            

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Originally posted by DualGemV2:
I'm surprised three Gemini's commented on this thread.

Astra, PlutonicGemini94 and I.

Newspaper astrology always puts Gemini suns as flirty and promiscuous.

Unless the three of us are unique or know something everyone else doesn't know...

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Gemini Sun,
Capricorn Rising
Aries Moon
Gemini Mercury
Venus Taurus
Mars Cancer

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posted August 29, 2016 06:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
Southern Sun

Could you post your natal chart?

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Sorry for the late response