posted August 18, 2016 09:33 AM            

(I also have Mars conjunct Venus both squared by Pluto)

I would like to see if there are any virgins oute there over 20 years old.
If you could also post your natal chart and explain why you still have the V card it would be great.

posted August 18, 2016 11:12 AM            

Why I'm still a virgin: Technically, most people would probably claim I'm not a virgin, but I cope with my past by stubbornly believing that rape isn't taking someone's virginity. I want someone I love to take my virginity. I don't care if other people don't consider me a virgin. I consider myself a virgin and that's what matters.

So, moving on to the answer. I am socially isolated and being raped at a young age probably caused me to avoid anything sexual until I was 18. Now that I'm older I have avoided actual sex, because I don't see any reason to rush. Someone that matters to me should take my virginity and I take my sweet time being sure that person deserves to take it. This said, I'm also in a committed relationship with a man that hasn't had the opportunity yet.

Astrologically, I'm guessing my astrology chart doesn't believe I'm a virgin either, though it's worth mentioning that I have a wide Mars semi-square Saturn. The orb is 3 degrees. I'm not sure if it counts.

posted August 18, 2016 01:42 PM            

Generally I agree that what our North Node represents is difficult and uncomfortable for us but I do not agree that you can choose if you'll follow your North or South nodes path.
It doesn't matter how much you need what South Node represents (for you is intimacy and generally a deep relationship) it doesn't matter how comfortable makes you feel
Your North Node completely ruins it and never lets you have what your South Node wants.
So with your South Node in 8th
Although you may feel you need to be intimate (of course with someone you can trust) it doesnt come to you.
That is a sign of virginity for me.

If only there is a chance that you are born with some minutes difference so Chiron was in your 8th H
Then the your sexual trauma could be perfectly described in your natal chart at least in my opinion.

Sorry for the long reply
And sorry for my English

posted August 18, 2016 02:20 PM            

I'm a little bit over 20 years old, but still a virgin and I have no explanation for that. Everyone always asks why I don't have a boyfriend, but I'm wondering that myself.

Speaking astrologically I do have my chart ruler Venus Retrograde. Also looking at your aspects that you mentioned I have Mars in harsh aspect to Pluto.

Actually this is a very interesting topic and I would like to hear more thoughts on it.

posted August 18, 2016 03:36 PM            

I actually think that around the age of 20 it's not uncommon at all to still be a virgin, you're still young and inexperienced in life and many people are late-bloomers. It's after 27-30 when it begins to seem strange and "past the prime" because you officially have an adult status.

As for astrological indicators I think there needs to be a pattern to truly give someone the incentive to keep putting aside sex:
- Saturn - delays and insecurities
- Pluto - power struggles, a great quote "Everything in the world is about sex except sex. Sex is about power."
- Any kind of influence in the form of a sign or aspect that would make someone take things very seriously, create jealousy, create insecurity or just create indifference.

That being said I'm also part of the club probably because of Venus/Saturn with some additional influences.

Sincerely, a Scorpio stellium (YES, that's right)

posted August 19, 2016 03:30 AM            

I blame it on Venus in the 7th H opposite Saturn/Uranus in the 1st H. And possible Sun and mercury (which is the ruler of natal Venus) in the 8th H.

posted August 19, 2016 06:33 AM            

strawberryaa

Has Mars in Taurus (opposite of Scorpio) so not in such a good sign, in her 8th H opposite of her Pluto.
Her 5th H in aquarius (ruled by Uranus) and Venus in 9th do not help either in my opinion.

Einfühlung

Has 8th H cusp in capricorn (ruled by Saturn) and on top of that Uranus and Neptune (sacred art) in her 8th H.
I think your Venus in 12th H and of course Sag as 7th h sign do not help at all.

meyray

Although I agree with you
I feel like if you are virgin after 23,24 years old the chances to have sex are really small. I guess the title should say virgins over 23 years old.
Also wanted to add up that late bloomers could be sag/aqua/gemini in 8th H or heavy populated 3rd/9th because they really need their minds to be stimulated in order to get satisfaction. So sex is not that important to such people.

posted August 19, 2016 07:59 AM            

He had Venus (retrograde) and Mars in Aries in his 6th house.

Pluto is located in his 12th house.

Mars opposite Pluto.

I feel like his entire Venus/ Mars energy ruined him.

posted August 19, 2016 08:42 AM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:

Hemilla

I understand you
But for me the pressure is not society but my age. To be honest I don't believe I'll ever have sex. I regret not having done this until 21 years old that I wanted sex so bad and I also wanted a relationship. Now I have so many problems, I can not even have a normal life.
My problem that I did not have sex back then is that wheneverI fall hard for someone I have deep sweet feelings and although I get turned on by them I do not wanna talk about sex or have sex with them. Because I feel like it will ruin everything. The reason is that whenever I talk dirty with someone that turns me on then I feel like I got what I wanted and I am using them for sexual pleasure. There is no way I could feel romantically about them. I do not even want to talk to them except for dirty talks. So if I even talk sexually with someone (no matter if Ive fallen hard for him or not at all) then I feel like I just want them for sex or I feel hurt when someone Im in love for 2 or 3 years wants sex from me.
So the main problem for me is that it will be platonic love or just sex.
Those two can not be combined for me

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posted August 19, 2016 10:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Hemilla:
Thats interesting....do you see sex in more pornographical way maybe,if so,you probably should buy those romance books where they describe sex as something romantic and beautifle,personal. And if dirty talking kills the vibe,then dont do it,dont let them do it either,i am not fond of dirty sexy talk either,its annoyingin my case,for you its romance killer obviously - i dont know what kind of talk you do,maybe you should be less descriptive when you do it

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Heheh
You are sweet

I am not a romantic person at all. Sweet when in love and with deep stable feelings yes.. But romantic not at all.
The thing is I get turned on by dirty talks and generally I like wild sex. I can not feel pleasure otherwise. I can not see sex as sweet thing. I can not get turned on by romantic/sweet sex (in my case sex talk)
In fact I find it a bit disgusting.
That is why I said that I can not combine sex with love.
It's either sexless love or loveless sex :P
Unfkrtunately I can not combine sex and love

posted August 19, 2016 10:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Hemilla:
[b] Thats interesting....do you see sex in more pornographical way maybe,if so,you probably should buy those romance books where they describe sex as something romantic and beautifle,personal. And if dirty talking kills the vibe,then dont do it,dont let them do it either,i am not fond of dirty sexy talk either,its annoyingin my case,for you its romance killer obviously - i dont know what kind of talk you do,maybe you should be less descriptive when you do it

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Heheh
You are sweet

I am not a romantic person at all. Sweet when in love and with deep stable feelings yes.. But romantic not at all.
The thing is I get turned on by dirty talks and generally I like wild sex. I can not feel pleasure otherwise. I can not see sex as sweet thing. I can not get turned on by romantic/sweet sex (in my case sex talk)
In fact I find it a bit disgusting.
That is why I said that I can not combine sex with love.
It's either sexless love or loveless sex :P
Unfkrtunately I can not combine sex and love

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posted August 19, 2016 10:40 AM            

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Originally posted by Hemilla:
In the end you only do need sex xD

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Nooo

posted August 19, 2016 11:32 AM            

Scorpio Sun in the 8H ruled by 6H > It would make sense, I have definitely been critical to those I've come in "close" intimate contact with. Even if I'm fully attracted to a guy, as soon as he leans in for a kiss all of a sudden I find myself noticing how bad his breath smells, or food in his teeth, or the boogers in nose (lol, sad but true) then I'm completely turned off. I hope one day I can get out of that phase and find someone I'm attracted to regardless of his flaws.

Pisces Moon in 12H ruled by 5H > This relates to my first overlay. I see my crushes with rose-colored glasses not realizing who the really are or what they really look like until the fog is cleared. I love intuitively and spiritually, I'm the kind of person that likes to look but not touch... like a piece of art on a wall. It feels way more romantic when a man stares into my eyes w/ passion over displaying physical passion.

posted August 19, 2016 12:38 PM            

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Originally posted by FatedCinderella:
MoonFish

Virgo placements can be a problem in relationships indeed lol

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posted August 19, 2016 05:52 PM            

I simply don't believe in sex until marriage and I haven't found the right guy. I don't expect a guy to be perfect at all, but I will not tolerate a man who tries to control every aspect of my life. I'd rather be single than be treated like a child.

I observed all of my friends in screwed up relationships who were especially hurt when they found out their "loving" boyfriends simply used them for sex and were never dating them exclusively. I saw the pain, hurt and confusion on their faces. There were red flags from the very beginning, but they ignored these red flags and warnings from others because they were blinded by their physical chemistry with these guys. If you have sex before you truly get to know someone, it's easy to ignore red flags and make up excuses for their behavior because the sex is so good.

I frankly don't care whether someone chooses to have sex before marriage. It's their life and they can live it however they wish.

What I find troubling about today's society are the double standards. In Western society, there is something automatically wrong with you if you are a virgin past 25, but no one raises an eyebrow at someone who sleeps with a dozen men or women. This is considered normal and society does not speculate why they are promiscuous. Not all promiscuous people are mentally sound individuals and some have suffered some pretty traumatic pasts, but no one cares about the reasons for their sexual choices unless they are close to the person. However, if you are an adult virgin, then people who are complete strangers will have no problems speculating about why you choose to be a virgin.