posted September 02, 2016 08:22 PM            

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Originally posted by starmoon:
so, if all 7 of those men with that placement hit me i should keep seeking out that placement and work through it because 7 isn't a big enough number? yes, maybe i need to encounter physical abuse a few more times to learn to deal with that aspect? makes perfect sense... i see it now! :-)

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It's up to you starmoon in terms of how you want to relate to other ppl. I'm sorry that you had bad experiences with some individuals and I can't put myself through it completely because I never experienced what you did.

posted September 02, 2016 10:14 PM            

Well, Aries23, I understand having misgivings about a particular type of energy in people - especially if it has hurt you deeply in the past.

I don't know if this is true for you, but I've noticed that if we meet "similar" people in our lives over and over, it means -
a.) We have some unresolved karma with someone who was like them, that we once knew (and can probably not recall, unless you do a past life regression or something)
2.) We have some of our own issues to be worked out, and/or some lesson to be learnt regarding that particular placement/aspect - that's why the universe keeps throwing it back at us until we get it. Like repeating a course any number of times till you get the grades to pass.

posted September 03, 2016 12:38 AM            

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Originally posted by starmoon:
if i know there is an aspect or planet that i can't work with, i don't go any further, be it friends or otherwise. why bother? isn't that the whole point of having a belief in astrology?? the belief that this works and therefore, that aspect will play out similarly again. i know the aspect i cannot handle in someone, and have given it enough 'tests' to know that when i encounter it in someone, i just walk off. no two people will be the same, of course not, but that aspect will somehow surface.

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posted September 03, 2016 01:17 AM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
At most I might watch for similarities and be a little bit cautious. Not in a way that they might notice, just in my heart.

I never would let aspects/placements rule out someone though.

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This is the cautious approach i am currently employing. But can one truly "guard" the heart without some fair measure of cynicism therein about the person?

To tiptoe and be so careful but also lean on the "but i am not holdin it against you", whilst the expression is one of great restraint and fearful vigillance?

posted September 03, 2016 01:24 AM            

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Originally posted by athenaia:
I'll absolutely be leery. If I have a long history of getting into conflicts with a certain moon sign and I see someone new I've met has that moon sign, I'll hesitate.

More than anything I'll reflect on my past experiences and think, "okay this method and this method didn't work with those people, maybe I won't implement them this time around and see if we can avoid all that conflict..." stuff like that.

It's okay to know what energy does and doesn't work for you. If you have *multiple* bad experiences with an energy in a particular planet, I don't see how one can blindly ignore that. I'll handle that person a little more delicately until I know that I won't fall into the same behavior patterns with this person like I did with others in the past. That's the beauty of astrology.

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A diverse approach. Oh that is interestin. Looking at this situation as somethin that requires a sort of creative method of solving how one would connect best with this person

I have always expected gut feelings to guide the way. But it is worth a shot really. Because there could be much gained from learnin about how to best approach such an individual given an array of responses.

posted September 03, 2016 01:36 AM            

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Originally posted by starmoon:
if i know there is an aspect or planet that i can't work with, i don't go any further, be it friends or otherwise. why bother? isn't that the whole point of having a belief in astrology?? the belief that this works and therefore, that aspect will play out similarly again. i know the aspect i cannot handle in someone, and have given it enough 'tests' to know that when i encounter it in someone, i just walk off. no two people will be the same, of course not, but that aspect will somehow surface.

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Exactly the debate that played out in my mind. I mean "why bother? You know the outcome and have been through this before" etc.

But i also thought; would that not peg me into a little box where i develop a phobia for such people, based on this aspect alone? I.e aspect "prejudice" so to speak if there is such to speak of

Can i be sure that i know without exception that the aspect will be exactly the same in manifestation? Not really.

Is it a gamble to go in? Heck yeah. But there is perhaps hope that the outcome will be different or there could be a difference in my approach that fosters a certain "adaptability" to it.

I just don't want to always "spot check" and develop some kind of weariness to any aspect/individual because of a subjective past.

posted September 03, 2016 01:37 AM            

I have a thing with cancer placements. It's not really about them as people, it's more about how the relationship usually go. They go the same way every time. It's usually fine if it's just casual social interactions. But anything more than that and it goes down hill. Synastry stuff. While I don't really hold it against them, I have reservation when it comes to interacting with people who have cancer placements, especially if it's the moon.

But for a few months now, I've been friends with this person who has cancer moon, conjunct my Dsc/SN/Chiron, oppose my chart ruler/etc... Sht his moon hits all the soft spots that usually would make me go UGGhhhh, but so far it's been fantastic. I've read about how those synastry aspects can manifest in positive ways, but had never experienced it until now. And about the person himself, heh I can "see" the cancer side coming out, and in the best of ways.

posted September 03, 2016 01:43 AM            

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Originally posted by Elysia:
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Well, Aries23, I understand having misgivings about a particular type of energy in people - especially if it has hurt you deeply in the past.

I don't know if this is true for you, but I've noticed that if we meet "similar" people in our lives over and over, it means -
a.) We have some unresolved karma with someone who was like them, that we once knew (and can probably not recall, unless you do a past life regression or something)
2.) We have some of our own issues to be worked out, and/or some lesson to be learnt regarding that particular placement/aspect - that's why the universe keeps throwing it back at us until we get it. Like repeating a course any number of times till you get the grades to pass.

There are some signs and some aspects that repeat in painful to downright traumatic relationships. And the next time I see it, I am momentarily sighing to myself, and saying "this, again?" But that doesn't "prevent" the connection. We are meant to live it out. And in any case, how will we know unless we try, what *this* experience is trying to bring us?
It might be our turn to get an A.

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posted September 03, 2016 01:48 AM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
Imma be honest here. If I see any of:

Gemini Moon
Cancer Moon
Pisces Moon
Libra Moon

I'll think twice.

Isn't odd that I only seem to have issues with Moon signs and nothing else??

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But is this wise though? Given the millions of people out there that have the above moons?

I always wonder that if someones actions make me feel bad. Is it my job to change or loosen my attention to that person. Or for them to change?

posted September 03, 2016 01:50 AM            

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
I don't hold aspects against people because I'm typically too busy analyzing them to the core to make assumptioms and/or comparisons based off of aspects, and even if I do I would probably not be thinking about the aspect anyway in midst of frustration. There's a few here and there if I were to be entirely honest, but what they are doing in my chart explains why I would dislike those aspects personally (synastry).

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posted September 03, 2016 02:00 AM            

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Originally posted by 12muddy:
I can understand why you would be wary, given your experiences.

I have a thing with cancer placements. It's not really about them as people, it's more about how the relationship usually go. They go the same way every time. It's usually fine if it's just casual social interactions. But anything more than that and it goes down hill. Synastry stuff. While I don't really hold it against them, I have reservation when it comes to interacting with people who have cancer placements, especially if it's the moon.

But for a few months now, I've been friends with this person who has cancer moon, conjunct my Dsc/SN/Chiron, oppose my chart ruler/etc... Sht his moon hits all the soft spots that usually would make me go UGGhhhh, but so far it's been fantastic. I've read about how those synastry aspects can manifest in positive ways, but had never experienced it until now. And about the person himself, heh I can "see" the cancer side coming out, and in the best of ways.

I agree with some other posters' view that it might very well be karma, and a lesson of sorts.

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True that. And that is what i look forward to really.The more positive interaction as there must be a reason as to why i attract them and them i.

Its so fantastic i tell ya. Well,at first. But then it goes bust.

posted September 03, 2016 02:25 AM            

I'm somewhat similar to what you describe *scratch head*. I don't break things off, but I "vanish", sometimes. Idk, sometimes I just tend to forget about people and get caught up by other things, sometimes it doesn't occur to me that I need to maintain connection with others. I've made some conscious effort to change, and so far it has helped a lot. It did bother me at first, but eventually I got used to it.

I have venus/uranus conjunction in capricorn, my s.o is slightly more erratic (he has the square, virgo-sag). We both have saturn influence, I think it balances uranus out somewhat.

Heh, now that I remember, all of the cancer-influenced people mentioned in my previous post took issue with the "vanishing act". It's not just *them* or *the connection*, it's *me* as well. Definitely a lesson there. I'll take care not to "vanish" on my new friend hah.

posted September 03, 2016 03:29 AM            

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Originally posted by 12muddy:
^ haha side effects.

I'm somewhat similar to what you describe *scratch head*. I don't break things off, but I "vanish", sometimes. Idk, sometimes I just tend to forget about people and get caught up by other things, sometimes it doesn't occur to me that I need to maintain connection with others. I've made some conscious effort to change, and so far it has helped a lot. It did bother me at first, but eventually I got used to it.

I have venus/uranus conjunction in capricorn, my s.o is slightly more erratic (he has the square, virgo-sag). We both have saturn influence, I think it balances uranus out somewhat.

Heh, now that I remember, all of the cancer-influenced people mentioned in my previous post took issue with the "vanishing act". It's not just *them* or *the connection*, it's *me* as well. Definitely a lesson there. I'll take care not to "vanish" on my new friend hah.

I hope that things will work out well between you and this new person.

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Thanks. But i think i made it sound too much like a romantic relationship lol

posted September 03, 2016 09:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
This is the cautious approach i am currently employing. But can one truly "guard" the heart without some fair measure of cynicism therein about the person?

To tiptoe and be so careful but also lean on the "but i am not holdin it against you", whilst the expression is one of great restraint and fearful vigillance?

Its not easy, but i do get what you mean.

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Perhaps it depends on moon sign quite a bit? Or moon and Venus? Really just each person, astrology aside.

posted September 04, 2016 03:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Astra:
I wouldn't rule out relationships with someone with a particular aspect, but I wouldn't jump in headfirst either. Just move slow. Do not put them up on a pedestal no matter how much chemistry you have. They are flawed human beings just like everyone else. Figure out their good and bad qualities. Pay attention to how they treat others. Find out if they have any long-term friendships (5+years). Do they have any friends from their childhood? (bonus points if they do!) If this person has long-term friendships, then it's not likely that they'll drop you like a hot potato without warning.

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I have no friends from my childhood Maybe because we moved around so much? But i did lose contact with plenty and found keeping others taxing.

Would that also make me "flaky"?

I do get the pedestal thing though. But I don't believe that it is more "idolizing" them than really enjoying their company.

I asked one if it would be too much to ask if I expect a bit of a "heads up" from them? i.e If they are mad with me.Let me know.If they no longer want to be friends,let me know etc.

I find it practical to be cautious because Venus-Saturn conjunct and Moon-Saturn trine. But even the most cautious of hearts is not exempt to breaking.

I think what I do appreciate about them mostly is that they are rarely defined by the crowd they are with. So its really hard to peg them with a particular group.

I am sort of the same. Quite complicated(or at-least I am told). So I do feel plenty understood and a strong rapport when meeting one of them.

I watched "Up in the air" with George Clooney and his character there I think is very Uranus influenced.

posted September 04, 2016 05:27 PM            

I went on a couple of dates last month with someone who when I checked out his birth date turned to have his Venus exactly opposite my Uranus. He was very much into me, but I said nope, I am not doing this again, and I emailed him to tell him I was not really interested in going on anymore dates. I don't care what anyone says, I am not going to go through that mess again.

posted September 04, 2016 05:34 PM            

His Saturn square or oppose my moon or Venus: No way.

His Saturn squares or opposes my Neptune: no way.

posted September 04, 2016 05:48 PM            

Consider it a chance to consider that maybe -- maybe -- Venus/Uranus aspects indicate `detached friendship` for you rather than a total red light.

Also look at the planet-to-planet synastry aspects you have with each person. Count them up for each relationship. Synastries that don`t have a clear majority of positives over negative aspects will present more problems. If the synastry with the current person exceeds the previous two in positives vs negatives, then consider that a relationship with this one has a basis for a more positive function/outcome.

posted September 04, 2016 10:32 PM            

Also, maybe there is a lesson that can be learned from all of these people? We attract people for a reason, and even though it makes your life difficult, there's something among these people that you can take away from and there's a part of yourself that needs to be developed.