posted October 08, 2016 03:19 AM            

Saturn in the 10th house, in Capricorn. Moon square Pluto, just one degree apart. Add to that, Chiron in Cancer, in the 4th house.

posted October 21, 2016 02:49 AM            

Don't like my parents as there not very intellgent people.

There fortunate to be at the right place at the right time, otherwise they whould be working at McDonalds right now.

My Mom never wanted me to go beyond a community college, since the people she works with in the Public Sector only possess that.

She figured go get a gov job with that, she continues the mentality of why people don't like public servants. Shes inbodies all the negative Cancer female traits. My Dad is also a Cancer and he is incredibly lazy.

I worked in the Gov and did school at the same time, that way I can still get some of the benifts of being a "good boy".

Then cuts were around the corner, I saw it but she didn't and the same with the other "morons" that work in the public sector.

Good thing I continued with my school and where I am today. I finish in April, but she whould rather me work then finish University.

I explain the only reason why I get job offers is because I planed ahead and "preposition" myself.

Change occurs every 3-5yrs so you can start planning what skills, jobs and what type of education will be in demand in 3yrs from now and hopefully be tailored in time to meet the demand. Hence why I said "prepositioned"

Again shes too foolish to understand that...but change is in the works I finish in April with an Engineering degree, I have no student debt and I have some money saved. So I don't need my parents.

There toast, I think she sorta relizes my discontent. But the more she tries the worst she and my dad makes things, better just to seperate myself from then as they don't know any better.

The problem is because me and my mom share a Mars and Venus conjunction. Shes thinks by being in control shes helping me when she's not!!

posted October 24, 2016 09:28 AM            

Something else you need to look at is your IC. I have my Sun setting right on it and I had a rough and emotionally confusing relationship with my father. We got along fine right now as I'm older but I still have issues which colors my relationship with most romantic partners.

Other aspects I have :

Uranus Square Moon
Neptune Square Moon
Moon sextile Saturn
Mars sextile Saturn

So you see ? looking at my chart, Saturn is well-aspected but that doesn't explain how terrible my relationship with my father was in most of my early life.

Something else is that Moon does not always signify mother. In my case, it's clearly my father since my relationship with my mother has always been great and I appreciate her even more as an adult.

posted October 24, 2016 02:58 PM            

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Originally posted by SilverFeather:
Funny how no one mentioned Uranus. Saturn and Pluto are the typical go-to in such cases but Uranus does play a factor, specially if in 4th house or in harsh aspects to its rulers.

Something else you need to look at is your IC. I have my Sun setting right on it and I had a rough and emotionally confusing relationship with my father. We got along fine right now as I'm older but I still have issues which colors my relationship with most romantic partners.

Other aspects I have :

Uranus Square Moon
Neptune Square Moon
Moon sextile Saturn
Mars sextile Saturn

So you see ? looking at my chart, Saturn is well-aspected but that doesn't explain how terrible my relationship with my father was in most of my early life.

Something else is that Moon does not always signify mother. In my case, it's clearly my father since my relationship with my mother has always been great and I appreciate her even more as an adult.

Neptune can tell you a lot as well. How does it aspect your Moon and Your 4th house ruler ?

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posted October 24, 2016 07:49 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
How do I find out what my 4th house ruler is?

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posted October 24, 2016 08:54 PM            

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Originally posted by SilverFeather:
First see in which Sign your 4th house falls. For example mine is in Sagittarius. What rules Sagittarius ? It's Jupiter. Thus, Jupiter is the ruler of my 4th house. Then I look at aspects that Jupiter has with other planets. Mine is unaspected so check yours. I'm sure you will find connections.

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posted October 24, 2016 10:25 PM            

My father on the other hand even though he hasn't been so present in my life since their separation I LOVE. Never has a man ever made me feel so free (he's an Aqua) he's very strange and very taboo, has lived his life through and though just in awe really. Very selfish man and non self sacrificial or altruistic all about him him him.

My mom no I've always have to be proper be a good little girl, she rather see me tied down, married at home. I say no just no, this is why you're alone, she's a Gemini sun Scorpio moon and her Saturn is right on my AC. I feel she inhibits me, she wants me to excel but at the same time finds ways to undermine me, everything I do is NEVER enough or good enough, probably because I haven't lived up to the potential of that of my siblings but it's a way to rebel against her...it's hard to explain.

posted October 24, 2016 11:28 PM            

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I have Uranus and Saturn in my 4th house. But I don't know what the ruler is.

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Your 4th House ruler is Pluto. It's natally retrograde and domicile ( in its own natural sign of rulership: Scorpio). It's opposition your Sun and Squaring your Moon. That explains a lot.

A bit on natally rx Pluto

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People with Pluto retrograde in their birth charts may be more inclined to fear being controlled, manipulated, or betrayed by others than those with Pluto direct. There may be a tendency to keep these fears to themselves, as exposing them makes them feel more vulnerable. They don’t as readily let others know their desire for power or control, and might not be in touch with this desire a lot of the time."

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posted October 24, 2016 11:37 PM            

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Originally posted by SilverFeather:
Your 4th House ruler is Pluto. It's natally retrograde and domicile ( in its own natural sign of rulership: Scorpio). It's opposition your Sun and Squaring your Moon. That explains a lot.

A bit on natally rx Pluto

[QUOTE]People with Pluto retrograde in their birth charts may be more inclined to fear being controlled, manipulated, or betrayed by others than those with Pluto direct. There may be a tendency to keep these fears to themselves, as exposing them makes them feel more vulnerable. They don’t as readily let others know their desire for power or control, and might not be in touch with this desire a lot of the time."

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posted October 24, 2016 11:41 PM            

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Originally posted by SilverFeather:
Your 4th House ruler is Pluto. It's natally retrograde and domicile ( in its own natural sign of rulership: Scorpio). It's opposition your Sun and Squaring your Moon. That explains a lot.

A bit on natally rx Pluto

[QUOTE]People with Pluto retrograde in their birth charts may be more inclined to fear being controlled, manipulated, or betrayed by others than those with Pluto direct. There may be a tendency to keep these fears to themselves, as exposing them makes them feel more vulnerable. They don’t as readily let others know their desire for power or control, and might not be in touch with this desire a lot of the time."

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posted October 28, 2016 11:33 AM            

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Good info.

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posted October 29, 2016 11:25 AM            

Her IC is 0* Sag and mars is in there. Jupiter is in the 12th house conjunct Venus. Mercury, ruler of MC is in the 3rd inconjunct saturn, semisquare uranus and pluto.

I have Saturn in the 10th too but I don't dislike my parents, in fact I'm very close, but its in Pisces so maybe it softens it up, gives it an unconditional love thingy.

posted October 29, 2016 05:22 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
I'm in my Saturn Return and everything is horrible. I have Saturn in my 4th house. I want to travel but my parents are giving me a hard time about it I'm really tired of them more than ever now. Right now I hate that I'm still living at home.

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posted October 29, 2016 05:26 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
This morning my mother asked me if I like the family. Meaning her and my father she kept asking me what my issue was. Because I never want to do anything with the family. Like participate in family outings etc. She said every time they ask me to do something with them or go somewhere. I always say I'm not available or that I have to work. I told her she knows I love her and that I like doing things with her. But my father on the other hand is a different story. I don't like that he's so controlling. And just basically forces me to participate in things that I don't want to be a part of. And how he's always trying to tell me I can't do certain things.

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posted October 29, 2016 05:45 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Is it because they worry about you? Where do you want to travel? Tell me 4 things you like about your parents?

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posted October 29, 2016 05:48 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Did you tell her that? That you feel dad is too controlling? It seems like they love you and worry about you and just want you in their life but I get it though. I love my parents more from a distance, I need space from them.

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posted October 29, 2016 05:53 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
It's because they are too controlling and they have to know every single move I make. I like traveling to California I love it there. But they always give me a hard time so I just end up sneaking there. I like that they love me and that they care about me. That they were protective of me while I was growing up.

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posted October 29, 2016 05:59 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I feel you, you have to assert yourself and set boundaries but also be loving in your own way so they know you care. Cali is nice, that is a state I would like to visit again some day.

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