posted November 20, 2016 02:24 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Wow a huge stellium in the 7H opposing your Moon forming a t-square with Saturn at the apex! With pluto right on the DC and with Venus conjunct Mars in the 8H.

My god relationships must be a huge load for you.

You are terrified of heart break and betrayal. I imagine you test the hell out of people before you let them in and enter in a relationship with them.

Saturn in Pisces is squaring your 7H stellium and moon so perhaps yes there is a lesson around letting your fears take over leading to possible delusions around infidelity not allowing you to relax and open up or give yourself fully to someone and enter into a committed relationship in the right frame of mind.

Saturn is the key here. That t-square is dominating your chart. I think all the earth you have is helping but since saturn is your only planet in a water sign that makes saturn a singleton planet for you so it dominates even more your chart, not to mention that saturn disposits your Venus and Mars in Capricorn in the 8H.

Fascinating chart, truly grateful to you for sharing it.

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Glad you understand!

posted November 21, 2016 09:39 AM            

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Originally posted by florence:
I'm so sorry. That's even worse that she cheated and you were left in this position of suspicion and doubt. At least she has confessed, now.

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posted November 21, 2016 11:15 AM            

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Originally posted by deptic:
Turned out I wasn't paranoid..

I was right all along.. She's a cheater and been a cheater for months. She confessed. I don't feel like an idiot, I am one. Strange part, we're suppose to get together next month.. That's off.

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Then that wouldn't be Othello Syndrome. You had a hunch and you were right. Othello I feel is that pathological jealousy were the person imagines the other is cheating and they never are, its not really based on instinct, its just pathological without reason.

Truly sorry though, when I look at your chart it almost seems like this is part of your journey like you need to experience betrayal so you can look at your biggest fear in the eye and for it to not have power over you anymore.

Once your biggest fear comes true the worse has happen so it stops having that power over you and you then realize you were able to get past it and move on later to meet someone who was a better fit for you anyway and you will then see the bigger picture and realize it all happened for a reason.

posted November 21, 2016 11:20 AM            

Is a theme of disillusionment in the context of relationships and your feelings for others.

But the key would be the higher octave of Pisces. Is almost like when you feel disillusioned your way out with coping with that disappointment is "unconditional love" and seeking to understand those people who have let you down.

posted November 21, 2016 11:52 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I feel I am starting to understand more your Saturn in Pisces tsquare squaring stellium in the 7H and Moon in the 1H.

Is a theme of disillusionment in the context of relationships and your feelings for others.

But the key would be the higher octave of Pisces. Is almost like when you feel disillusioned your way out with coping with that disappointment is "unconditional love" and seeking to understand those people who have let you down.

^^I know is hard but I think that is how you will eliminate that karma you have and your way out of that rough t-square.

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posted November 21, 2016 11:59 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Then that wouldn't be Othello Syndrome. You had a hunch and you were right. Othello I feel is that pathological jealousy were the person imagines the other is cheating and they never are, its not really based on instinct, its just pathological without reason.

Truly sorry though, when I look at your chart it almost seems like this is part of your journey like you need to experience betrayal so you can look at your biggest fear in the eye and for it to not have power over you anymore.

Once your biggest fear comes true the worse has happen so it stops having that power over you and you then realize you were able to get past it and move on later to meet someone who was a better fit for you anyway and you will then see the bigger picture and realize it all happened for a reason.

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I believe so, too. Most people in my life ends up disappointing me. Who hasn't cut me off for no reason, to those who just lie to my face. I been asking why for the longest time. What's the lesson here? Like you said, to face my fear of betrayal, I have to go through it. A lot more than I would like, but nonetheless.

posted November 22, 2016 04:24 AM            

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Originally posted by deptic:
That feel when everyone that used to be in your life disappoints you.

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That's an awful feeling

posted November 22, 2016 04:42 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Then that wouldn't be Othello Syndrome. You had a hunch and you were right. Othello I feel is that pathological jealousy were the person imagines the other is cheating and they never are, its not really based on instinct, its just pathological without reason.

Truly sorry though, when I look at your chart it almost seems like this is part of your journey like you need to experience betrayal so you can look at your biggest fear in the eye and for it to not have power over you anymore.

Once your biggest fear comes true the worse has happen so it stops having that power over you and you then realize you were able to get past it and move on later to meet someone who was a better fit for you anyway and you will then see the bigger picture and realize it all happened for a reason.

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Strangely, someone can have the othello syndrome whilst their partner is cheating. Though there might be an infidelity, suggesting a basis in reality, the nature and content of the accusations can themselves have no relation to an affair and be wildly illogical. I think that gives some indication of what this syndrome actually is because the suspicion of an affair and the evidence sought/found is often so unconnected to a reality that even if it turns out the partner is cheating it's almost coincidental - there's still no link between the two, it's just seen as two separate events.

It is strange because even sensing a partners distance would present a basis in reality but I can understand why this is the case too because with the othello syndrome, it becomes so the sufferer isn't even working towards exposing a truth but realising their reality, whether that coincides with the truth or not. The thinking itself is the problem and would exist independently of an external reality. As you say it's pathological without reason but .. And there can be an affair.

I was suprised myself to find that out though, it does seem a little bit unfair under those circumstances to still be categorised as delusional.

posted November 22, 2016 11:21 AM            

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Originally posted by florence:
Strangely, someone can have the othello syndrome whilst their partner is cheating. Though there might be an infidelity, suggesting a basis in reality, the nature and content of the accusations can themselves have no relation to an affair and be wildly illogical. I think that gives some indication of what this syndrome actually is because the suspicion of an affair and the evidence sought/found is often so unconnected to a reality that even if it turns out the partner is cheating it's almost coincidental - there's still no link between the two, it's just seen as two separate events.

It is strange because even sensing a partners distance would present a basis in reality but I can understand why this is the case too because with the othello syndrome, it becomes so the sufferer isn't even working towards exposing a truth but realising their reality, whether that coincides with the truth or not. The thinking itself is the problem and would exist independently of an external reality. As you say it's pathological without reason but .. And there can be an affair.

I was suprised myself to find that out though, it does seem a little bit unfair under those circumstances to still be categorised as delusional.

in this case I don't think it is the othello syndrome though

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posted November 22, 2016 04:36 PM            

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Originally posted by florence:
That's an awful feeling

you seem to have a few quintiles Q, enough to suggest talent so maybe you can lead others in standards or help people with the same feelings. I'm not that good at interpreting charts.p though to understand how

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posted November 23, 2016 10:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Einfühlung:
I might have this syndrome but I have Venus square Saturn. It's not like I'm suspicious with everyone but I'm very cautious with people when it comes to trust. I just have to be REALLY sure about them after being around them and doing instense observation. After that my suspicions die and I have absolute trust on them. Unless I find out that they're cheating on me, or other bad things. And usually when something goes wrong my intuition kicks in. Though my ex on the other hand has Pluto in the 7th and when we were together he had suspicions of me cheating but I didn't at all. He did do a lot of projecting too, and was jealous a lot. Did a lot of self-harming and talked about suicide twice or thrice..

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That's how I am too. Welcome to the club (like you, not your ex).

I never harmed myself on purpose or others. Never has those thoughts either.

posted November 24, 2016 04:52 AM            

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Originally posted by deptic:
Maybe in the future. I'mma need to help myself first, before I work on someone else lol

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posted November 24, 2016 10:35 AM            

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Originally posted by florence:
I can understand that

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Strange, though. I give great advices (so I've been told) in regards to relationships, but I tend not to follow my own advices.

posted November 24, 2016 10:45 AM            

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Originally posted by Einfühlung:
It's great to know that this aspect it doesn't affect you like that. It's weird how he was like this because his chart is mostly fire: Sag Sun, Mercury, Venus, and Mars.

I almost forgot.. his Moon and Saturn Squaring Pluto could be a part of this behavior too, although I've read these aspects could be beneficial and gets better with age, and he's still young. But who knows. It's been years since I've last seen him. There's another person I know with Pluto in 7th. 28 years old. Very chill, live and let live mentality, but that could be on the surface. I feel there's more to him than that. There were few times when he goes on a tangent about important issues. And you wouldn't know it, because he doesn't talk much about himself, but he holds strong opinions about certain aspects in life. Regarding relationships I don't really know what he's like. Very curious

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I too have Sag sun and mercury. But I have moon (Gemini) square Saturn.

posted November 25, 2016 01:20 PM            

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Originally posted by deptic:
Strange, though. I give great advices (so I've been told) in regards to relationships, but I tend not to follow my own advices.

You know what I mean?

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posted November 26, 2016 10:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Einfühlung:
Ah, okay. Very interesting how you both have some of the same signs and placements. Is there others you know with Pluto in 7th with these placements, or without? Or better yet have none of those planets aspecting Pluto? The 28 year old has moon sextile Pluto and Saturn semi square Pluto

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posted November 26, 2016 11:55 PM            

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Originally posted by florence:
oh yes, I do its those emotions ruining everything.

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