posted November 23, 2016 04:49 AM            

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
wow that is a difficult combo in deed! But venus in the 7th house is really good, so don't worry How close is the opposition between venus and uranus?

And don't forget, that other factors play a role in the chart as well...

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Its a somewhat close orb - 2 degree between Venus and Saturn and 3 degree between Uranus.

I've read somewhere that Venus-Saturn aspects are not as difficult after a Saturn return. Have you encountered that?

The oddest thing is I used to be anti-marriage and my whole opinion of that has suddenly changed, now I want to get married, maybe because it seems so out of reach?

posted November 24, 2016 12:14 PM            

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Originally posted by SalemsEnd:
I think a bit of both tbh. Although if that’s true regarding how it operates differently in males vs. females then I would be the former.

For the former- yes, there’s an antagonism with the ways of attracting others. There’s an offish feeling to it.
For the latter-The people I attract (Virgo Venus) are earthy, feminine signs. I love them. They make me feel valued, and in return I really value them. But after a while a hollowness sets in. I start to resent the attachment to the material, I miss my intellectual, up-in-the-air debates and idea trades, and I start to feel stifled (gemini moon).
If I do happen to be with people with a lot of air or masculine signs I feel comfy as pie, but never valued. Never loved QUITE in the way I want to be, and my style of affection isn't what they need nor want.

There’s a trend I’ve noticed with this aspect to attract partners and friends with a predominance of one gender or the other. Almost as if they have to choose between comfort and love. Usually they choose comfort (moon) but end up pretty unhappy about it. I’m not sure if this is just something in the people I’ve seen though or a general rule.

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posted November 24, 2016 04:18 PM            

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Originally posted by vertiver:
Its a somewhat close orb - 2 degree between Venus and Saturn and 3 degree between Uranus.

I've read somewhere that Venus-Saturn aspects are not as difficult after a Saturn return. Have you encountered that?

The oddest thing is I used to be anti-marriage and my whole opinion of that has suddenly changed, now I want to get married, maybe because it seems so out of reach?

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As long as your saturn/venus is stronger than your venus/uranus

But no, haven't heard of that... I think lots of things are falling into place after your saturn return though, but probably mostly the things to do with the house saturn sits in...

posted November 25, 2016 04:54 PM            

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Originally posted by areesquivel:
Can Venus in 8th be similar? my Venus in 8th opposed to Neptune is like the ultimate I have high standards of movie romances that don't exist but in everything that has to do with 8th house I'm super scared of. I have no love life either, and when I do is imaginary because I prefer what I imagine than reality.

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posted November 25, 2016 05:04 PM            

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Originally posted by vertiver:

I've read somewhere that Venus-Saturn aspects are not as difficult after a Saturn return. Have you encountered that?

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posted November 25, 2016 10:28 PM            

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Originally posted by alludeu:
What do you think are the natal aspects of people who have it hard in love. People who are prone to having difficult relationships and an unstable love life..
I can think of venus hard aspect Saturn and venus in 12th.
I'm interested in what other people have found?

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posted November 26, 2016 03:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Einfühlung:
Has there been an occurrence where one person seemed to have both Gemini and Virgo qualities, or seemed to satisfy both parts? There's forums I've read online where most of the people with this aspect can't find a partner that satisfies both but in rare occurance there were quite few who said they found someone but they're a lot older and mature when this happened. They always say this aspect gets easier when they're older. I'm yet to read about or meet someone young who managed to be with someone who satisfies both aspects.

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Oh yes definitely! It can be done
My partner has Virgo Moon square Gemini Venus, so we have moon/venus conjunction DW and in composite. The moon square moon + venus square venus can be grating, but there is still an inherent understanding since we both deal with the same internal conflict. Though he does have his moon in the 3rd house..I AM young (19) so I think it depends on the level of self-awareness...

Generally though I've seen what you said to be true. Most people don't seem to have it worked out until their later years. Maybe its easier with the mutable signs?

posted November 26, 2016 04:15 AM              

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Originally posted by SalemsEnd:

I have this at 0 degrees and you're right, there's a clashing between needs and wants. I've also seen it manifest as not feeling comfortable (moon) with your attractiveness (venus). Literally all the women in my family have this aspect, while the men have trines and sextiles. Talk about astro family karma....
The inconjunct is far worse though imo.

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posted November 26, 2016 07:03 AM            

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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
I have Moon in Leo square Venus in Scorpio. Half of me needs happy sunshine and lighthearted-ness (Leo), and the other half wants intense, emotional, loyalty (Scorpio).

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I feel you, Sulkyarcher

posted November 26, 2016 08:23 AM              

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Originally posted by SalemsEnd:
I feel you, Sulkyarcher

Do you find your relationships geared toward fulfilling one over the other? I imagine the square would be harder with fixed signs...

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posted November 26, 2016 11:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Einfühlung:
Moon square Venus could be one. My ex has this. This aspect is said to give the natal person a hard time deciphering what their needs and wants are in love, and thus prone to having unsatisfying relationships because they're needs and wants are at odds. When the natal person is older this aspect is a lot easier to handle. So it could be that love life is difficult when younger but easier when older. I wish I knew more people with this aspect to observe and find out each of their solutions dealing with it when it comes to relationships.

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posted November 26, 2016 12:04 PM            

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
As long as your saturn/venus is stronger than your venus/uranus

But no, haven't heard of that... I think lots of things are falling into place after your saturn return though, but probably mostly the things to do with the house saturn sits in...

Hehe I know the feeling though I also used to be against marriage myself, but now I find the thought one of the most romantic, don't know why... I just think that if you get married, it must be a clear sign that you really love each other, at least that day when you stand in the church or wherever:P I just want to experience that (again) to stand in front of a person I love, knowing he loves me back. It's some of the best moments, but I'm afraid that I'm getting too individualistic these days for actually ever getting married...

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posted March 12, 2019 09:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Kibriana:
Yep, that's it. I've got 12th house Venus square 4th house Saturn and I have no love life whatsoever. None. Zero. Nonexistent. Well, ok, my imagination used to run wild so I had those famed unrequited and illusionary loves Venus in 12th is so fond of, but not anymore, so now I've got nothing. I also have Venus opp. Uranus, which makes it even harder for me to commit. At this point in my life I don't care about love anymore, and, in fact, I don't want it to happen to me, I'm quite satisfied to be on my own. I just gave up.

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posted March 16, 2019 07:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Kibriana:
Yep, that's it. I've got 12th house Venus square 4th house Saturn and I have no love life whatsoever. None. Zero. Nonexistent. Well, ok, my imagination used to run wild so I had those famed unrequited and illusionary loves Venus in 12th is so fond of, but not anymore, so now I've got nothing. I also have Venus opp. Uranus, which makes it even harder for me to commit. At this point in my life I don't care about love anymore, and, in fact, I don't want it to happen to me, I'm quite satisfied to be on my own. I just gave up.

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@Kibriana Hiya. I can relate.

Venus in my 12th house quincunx Saturn in my 4th, 0° degree orb.

My Venus also squares Uranus in my 8th, also at 0°.

posted March 20, 2019 05:15 AM            

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Originally posted by PiscesVenus:
My love life is difficult....if I have any. I have SN in Libra, Pisces in Venus. I came to the world to breathe,eat and drink love. But what do i do instead?

with a 5th house saturn opposing 11th house chiron and squaring 8th house mercury, i feel i've been sent to this world to stay alone forever in terms of love,friendships,family and anything. I'll be 32 next month and I've been so far only in 2 relationships. Once I was 19 and pushed myself to find somebody. I found one on internet and it lasted 1,5 years. Then I got my 2nd relationship,when i was 27. I am still in this relationship but it is like hell. I am not happy at all, but I can't break up. Because it is too painful for me. I gave up on the idea of getting married and having a happy family already. At least I want to be happy with someone I love. But so far, nobody has ever come to me, nobody has ever given me the feeling I m likeable and I am worth to be love. I am not writing this to get your attention. This is unfortunately the fact. All these years I just asked myself what i do wrong, what I can't see. It is just how it is. Some of us -like my current bf- are running from one relationship to other, other sex lands just in their laps and some of us -like me- are cursed of being all alone. Thank you NN Aries nd 5th house Saturn!

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posted March 21, 2019 06:59 AM            

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Originally posted by astri:
have any of you Venus in hard spect with your POF?

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No, luckily my Venus Conjunct POF.
Orb very tight less than s Degree.

posted March 21, 2019 02:28 PM            

I don't feel unlucky in love though. I actually feel blessed.

I can say that I was lucky to have had the loves that I've had. Somethings I experienced, I know some people only dream of such a deep, fulfilling connection. I am grateful, so from my perspective my love life is/was good.

posted March 21, 2019 09:48 PM            

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Originally posted by alludeu:
What do you think are the natal aspects of people who have it hard in love. People who are prone to having difficult relationships and an unstable love life.. I can think of venus hard aspect saturn and venus in 12th.
I'm interested in what other people have found?

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Senior Male Citizen responding here.

Alludeu, your post makes me think of a woman I knew briefly many years ago. I might have maintained interest at the time had her Saturn not hung over my natal Venus - a real DEAD-ON-ARRIVAL situation as far as I'm concerned.

Not long ago I discovered she has been married to six different guys, the last of whom reportedly croaked on her.

I suspect this 6-hubby gal's experiences in marriage had something to do with a difficult natal chart in which her Saturn sat on top of her Venus. To make matters worse, that dark Venus/Saturn cloud camped out on her ascendant.

I could go on about her empty 7th and a love of money, all of which might prove that when it rains it sometimes pours.

posted March 23, 2019 05:48 AM            

@Leo-Cancer98

posted March 23, 2019 12:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Southern Sun:
Venus/Uranus really is a tough aspect

I have it as a loose square. I want dudes I can't have because they are taken, or at a great distance because my Venus falls in 9th. The men who are nearest to me in the socialsphere are either too boring or they are platonic love-type friends

It's problematic, and I too feel like I should just give up

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same here, venus uranus square, venus (ruler of the 7th) in 9th. i do crave stability but ince i have it, i can’t stand it and feel depressed and am always creating drama so long till i’ve persuaded myself that the relationship is bad, that he doesn’t love me or that he isn’t good for me. i basically invent the reasons to just dissapear. And then it begins anew: i cry because i am alone, i enter a relationship and then, after a while, i start sabotaging it. I really noticed the pattern but don’t know how to break it.