posted December 10, 2016 08:22 PM            

Chiron in the 1st house-– This placement seems to indicate childhood bullying, particularly in very close conjunction with the Ascendant. Chiron in the 1st house, in general, would be a outer manifestation of Chiron. It would be akin to wearing Chiron( which is pain) on your sleeve. The Chiron wound could be physical, such as a scar or deformity.It could be emotional, such as emotional illness. Whatever it is, it is visible to others. Most people have witnessed what bullies do to people who appear”weak” or “different”. Due to this rather large flaw in general human nature, this is one of the hardest Chiron placements.

Chiron in the 2nd house-—–The 2nd house rules the material part of life and all that that entails, such as a house in which to live and money with which to buy food and other needed items. The 2nd house rules the general feeling of security in life , particularly the security one has when one's material needs are met. As such, if Chiron is here, you may be afraid that your material security could be lost. You may carry this vague fear with you, at all times, even if you are living in the lap of luxury.The Chiron wound is internal. It does not heal if life circumstances change. It may be mitigated, but not healed completely, as thus is the nature of the Chiron myth.

Chiron in the 3rd house-– The 3rd house rules communication. One must be able to communicate, with ease, if one is to thrive in this world. The 3rd house is general communication in speaking and writing, rather than an intellectual communication of deep, philosophical and spiritual issues, as this the domain of the 9th house. People with Chiron in the 3rd house may be afraid to speak. They may have been demeaned when they tried to speak. They may have been in a situation, in which they were “shouting” their authentic truth with no one to hear or to understand what they were saying. They may have been one of the “voiceless”. I have seen this manifestation of Chiron in the 3rd.

Chiron in the 4th house–The 4th house rules early childhood. As such, Chiron, here, would indicate a painful childhood. This is one of the harder Chiron placements, as our childhood shapes us, as surely as water is shaped by a container. We may carry deep lifetime pain from situations inflicted on us, as children. I think this would be the case, as the Chiron wound does not heal. However, this placement may have a unique ability to help abused and neglected children. This placement may be a foster parent or just someone to whom children can unburden themselves.

Chiron in the 5th house--The 5th house rules play, creativity, self expression of one’s basic identity, short romances, fun and one’s sense of humor. Chiron, here, may make a person afraid to risk self expression. Creativity may be hard, as one feels insecure to step out and be seen. This house rules the child who dances and sings with the joy of simply being alive, as children will do. This sign rules the person who will get in to the center of the crowd with a lampshade on his head. With Chiron, here, one may,obversely, be found in the corner. One may desire to shout his special song to the world, but shrinks back. As such, this person may have a unique understanding, which may help others who find themselves in the same position. This Chiron may be a music teacher, but not a performer. This placement may be an acting coach, but not an actor. This Chiron may watch on the sidelines, while encouragimg others to shine. That would embody the nature of the usage of the Chiron wound.

Chiron in the 6th house--The 6th house rules work of a practical service nature. It, also, rules health. Chiron in the 6th may be a person who desires to serve others, but may never seems to find commensurate satisfaction. Perhaps, their choice of work is a continual source of pain. Perhaps, they work in a field which does not suit them, which drains their life energy, but they are stuck. Perhaps health issues plague them. One friend with Chiron in the 6th had two children with a rare genetic disorder, of which he and his wife were unaware. He and she were, both, called upon to donate organs to their child. This placement is one of the harder ones.

Chiron in the 7th house--The 7th house rules marriage and committed partnerships of a long term nature. The 7th house involves all things that one desires in marriage such as loyalty, devotion, fidelity and life partnership .As such, this Chiron may never have the pleasures of this kind of union. If this Chiron does get married, his partner may betray him or likewise break his heart and destroy his dreams. This Chiron may be called upon to help other couples as a marriage counselor or a pastor while he bears the wound with which he heals others.

Chiron in the 8th house-The 8th house rules all taboo subjects.If you cannot talk about it at a cocktail party, the 8th house rules it. This includes the deepest passions of the human being, both emotional and sexual.The 8th house is the one must call forward when one is in therapy. It rules the id, the part of us which will control us, if we try to push it in to the attic. As such, Chiron in the 8th may not be able to face these id parts of himself and may suffer physical and emotional illness, as a result. On the other hand, he may be plagued by passions running wild and/or addictions and obsessions which he cannot control. In keeping with the myth of Chiron, but may be called upon to help others as an addiction counselor or a therapist.

Chiron in the 9th-——The 9th house rules higher thought. It is opposite the 3rd house which rules chatty communication. The 9th rules intellectual communication. It rules higher education, while the 3rd house rules elementary education. The 9th house rules spiritual bodies of thought. The 9th house asks the most yearning questions of the human such as “Why am I here?” When a person has a full 9th house, the person is a seeker after Life Truths. On the other hand, when Chiron is here, a person may never find these answers, although they may search incessantly. The 9th house Chiron may be a religion professor or a pastor who guides others to the very answers which elude him.

Chiron in the 10th–The 10th house rules career and society. It is opposite the 4th house which rules early childhood. One must leave childhood and the 4th house and learn to make one’s way in the 10th house arena. The 10th house rules one’s reputation.It rules one’s general acceptance or lack of it, in society. As such, Chiron, here, may make one feel cast out from others. Perhaps, one does not have the social status one so, fervently, desires.Perhaps, one was poor as a child and feels one can never fit in with a “higher” level of social peers. Perhaps, one makes a stupid mistake and loses one’s reputaion. Perhaps, one’s career never takes off even though one tries, mightily. This Chiron may help others succeed and realize their social dreams,as one stands in the baclground. Perhaps, one is a worker behind the scenes for a person who sits in the limelight, effortlessly, as one watches.

Chiron in the 11th-——The 11th house rules groups, hopes and dreams and global giving, such as in charity. The 11th house is a forward thinking house ruled by Aquarius. A person with a full 11th house wants to help others, who may be far away ,such as by doing work in the Peace Corps or Doctors without Borders. The strongly 11th house person has a passion to make a difference to those who are far from his own sphere of life. It seems to be a deep seated passion, as in my friend Rod from Chile. Hopes and dreams are ruled by this house, too, as in the hopes of a child, before children learn that hope is often, fruitless. As such, a person with an 11th house Chiron may find that his dreams are out of reach and he must settle for mediocrity instead of his aspirations. Perhaps, he will mentor someone who does go to faraway places and perform wonderful deeds, as he sits behind the scenes, as a support structure.

Chiron in the 12th house—The 12th house is the hardest house placement, bar none. This will, always, be the case, regardless of which planet resides therein.The 12th house is the door to the next dimension. The next dimension is that of psychic phenomena, creativity and mystical experience.It, also, rules drugs and addictions, as these take us out of the real world, albeit in a harmful way. As such, the person with a 12th house Chiron may find it hard to live on the earth He may want to escape the earth’s hardships through addictions. He may fight addictions but never seem to overcome. He may be ultra sensitive in the Micheal Jackson vein a la too innocent and childlike for the cruel world. The earth may take its toll on him.People who have been through great trouble have great depth, rarely found in those who have not. As such, this Chiron may comfort those who the rest of the world has pushed to the sidelines, such as the handicapped person, the dying or the prisoner.

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posted December 10, 2016 10:58 PM            

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posted December 11, 2016 01:25 AM            

i know you love chiron in the 8th position and chiron conjunct moon is one of your favorite aspect xDDDDD

posted December 11, 2016 05:56 AM              

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Chiron in the 4th house–The 4th house rules early childhood. As such, Chiron, here, would indicate a painful childhood. This is one of the harder Chiron placements, as our childhood shapes us, as surely as water is shaped by a container. We may carry deep lifetime pain from situations inflicted on us, as children. I think this would be the case, as the Chiron wound does not heal.

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We`ve talked about that. And nope, not true in my case.

The thing is, that while from the toolkit the description is apt in a generic way or at least *could* be true in some instances, other things will modify it.

The basic meaning here is that there is a great vulnerability in family-issues and deep emotional states. This vulnerability could manifest as pain and hurt that has to be bottled up inside to emotionally survive (depending on the childhood environment) or within a supportive environment could lead to sensitivity and a feeling of responsibility (Chiron was a teacher and guide and healer after all) for family or children.

The Chiron position is a "raw nerve", but how that raw nerve is treated and if it might be overstimulated (pain) or stimulated in the right way (alertness, sensitivity) makes the difference how we experience it.

A good indicator for this would be aspects to said Chiron in the natal chart.
Sqares and Oppositions of Mars, Saturn, Uranus or Pluto would probably be more indicative of the painful scenario.

Harmonious aspects, especially to softer energies, would be more inclined to a vulnerability that is not experienced as pain but actually as empowering.

In my case Chiron is not really prominent in aspects, what it has is a sextile to Moon within 3 degrees, which I am inclined to consider, though just weakly.

But I`ve always felt VERY supported by my parents and especially my Mom "gets" me on a deep level, especially when it comes to issues surrounding family or children (there are other fields where we might clash of course, as there are always areas of disagreement with someone, no matter how compatible and loving we really are to each other).

posted December 11, 2016 08:12 AM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
Chiron in the 2nd here and this is true for me.
I am always trying to secure myself worrying that things can be taken away.

also, with Chiron in the 2nd, i feel guilty for having material gains... especially if I am in a close proximity with people who have nothing, i feel so guilty. If i pass by homeless people, i usually stare at the ground feeling bad and even think stuff like " I am so sorry that i have a nice cashmere coat and you dont have a coat". That's Chiron in the 2nd, I think.

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What is interesting about this, Orange, is that I have LOTS of guilt in my Chiron's house, too. I feel very, very guilty that I could not "fix" my mother. People say it is silly and it is, but it is a deep guilt. Maybe, this is something that happens with the house of Chiron. Great call, Orange. Also, later, I have a question for you on Pluto conjunct Mercury vx Pluto sextile mercury, which I have.

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posted December 11, 2016 08:13 AM            

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Originally posted by moongaze:
I have Chiron in the 5th and creativity is not something I struggle with, but rather putting myself out in the spotlight. I hate being the center of attention and feel uncomfortable showcasing my paintings to other people. I only show them if they are so adamant to see them, otherwise I rarely talk about them and many are surprised when they find out that I am a painter.

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EXACTLTY, Moon. I would like to add this quote to my article, if you would allow me cuz it explains it perfectly! I am sorry you went through this,too. I feel the 5th House is one of the hardest houses.

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posted December 11, 2016 08:16 AM            

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Originally posted by visions:
thank you ami !

i know you love chiron in the 8th position and chiron conjunct moon is one of your favorite aspect xDDDDD

can you do a topic with pluto transiting the house 1 and 2 and 3...???

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Thank you, V!

I don't really do transits. I don't like to study them because they make me too paranoid, personally lol
However, I suppose I could write an article on them for you because the LANGUAGE of Astrology is the same, regardless of the sphere of Astrology, such as natal, synastry etc

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posted December 11, 2016 08:17 AM            

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Originally posted by UrsusBlack:
I remember your Chiron thread being the very first thread posted in when I joined LL. Made me smile to see it again.

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Thank you, U! xx

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posted December 11, 2016 08:20 AM            

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posted December 11, 2016 08:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Astra:
I have chiron in the 5th house, but it really doesn't fit me. While I am good at teaching others, I've also been in the spotlight and enjoy it. Chiron in the 4th house fits me perfectly.

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When this happens, I think the time is off, Astra. Chiron should fit perfectly. I think that one should feel a "coming home" when it comes to Chiron, even though it is not a "good" coming home, but kind of a deep understanding of oneself. Sometime, the time could be off by just minutes or another house system could put the Chiron in the adjoining house.

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posted December 11, 2016 08:29 AM            

Actually, Ceri, I have been really wondering about this point i.e aspects to Chiron mitigating the effect.

In my case, I have a grand trine with Chiron, venus and the ASC.

The pain seems terrible--4th House(my mother) BUT BUT BUT I think the trine makes the pain USABLE

That is my current conclusion about aspects to Chiron. The pain is more usable, or just usable, in general, with the positive aspects.

I don't think the nature of the pain is mitigated by the aspects, unless one could say USING the pain helps one with it and it does.

That is my current thinking, anyway, and I really appreciate your contribution, Ceri.

I like when people disagree in a respectful way. That is how we all learn

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posted December 11, 2016 08:31 AM            

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posted December 11, 2016 04:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
What if Chiron's house is where you have an aptitude for healing others' pain?

I feel this is more in-line with the archetype.

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YES, it, usually, is, Voix, but it comes from your own pain, I think.

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posted December 11, 2016 07:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
YES, it, usually, is, Voix, but it comes from your own pain, I think.

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Pain is certainly an effective way to gain awareness, although I think we can become aware of the houses due to other emphases. e.g. experiences, interests, academia, environment, culture, personality traits, role models, etc.

I think the wounded part of the "wounded healer" may simply refer to somewhat of a blind spot, a vulnerability which one can see more clearly in others than themselves, perhaps. Then again, it could literally be lived experience leading one to have empathy and knowledge of healing strategies.